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I have a 7.1.4 setup. Is this the way DTS wants it or is this a Marantz thing? Do the Denon AVRs do the same thing? And why have a selectable DTS-HD MSTR sound mode if it is just going to upmix it anyway?
This is the way the DTS decoder works, which AFAIK, works the same way for all brands.
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I am thinking about upgrading from marantz sr7001 to sr8012.

Today I am using it with monitor audio pl200 , plc150, gold w15 and gold fx in 5.1. My platinum speakers are speced at 4 ohm. And I am thinking that they could benefit by more power.
I particularly feel like I am missing som base in my pl200 speakers. Just sound a bit flat. I thought these speaker could produce more base.

I use it for 70% tv-serials and 30% stereo.

Has anyone been doing a similar upgrade ?

And also I want to just put out the sound to the receiver via HDMI. I am using a HTPC with ASUS geforce gtx 1070. DVI to monitor and I have two HDMI out. One are going to the projector TW9300 , but I want the other HDMI to send the audio to SR8012. To take advantage of the new audio formats.
Has anyone done this config ?

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Can't help you with the input but I upgraded from the 7002 to the 8012 and I use MA speakers too, a mixture of 5G Gold series and older silver series. The Golds are 4 ohms. The 2 main benefits of the upgrade would be the much improved Audysey room correction, you'll really notice that. It's just more accurate straight away. And with the 8012 your Platinums are going to appreciate the extra current and stability the improved power supply brings to the table. I found the 8012 to be an excellent upgrade for 2 channel listening- to my ears it's indistinguishable from a good integrated stereo amp.
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Thanks, a lot for your input @Ian70 . I have the 4g Gold e
fx and the first gen platinum. The 5g golds look great. Probably Up their with platinum of first gen. Do you have the 300 ?
Sounds great about the Audysey. And also the two channel audio is rely important for me. Thats why I choose Marantz in the first place
. And I have been pleased with 7001. I hade the gs20 before that and it sounded great. But the platinums are Little more demanding. So hence Time for and upgrade. I will probably get the 8012 soon. I hope it Will give som more grunt and attack in the bass Department to.

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Anyone else having issues with the Marantz app on IOS. Cannot select Heos in eithe IOS or Android app. The front display shows Heos, both apps show TV Audio. Apple did update IOS last week, dont think Android updated.
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the two channel audio is rely important for me. Thats why I choose Marantz in the first place
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New Marantz 8012 receiver. Sibilance occuring; room or amp?

I previously had a Marantz SR7010 receiver with PMC db1i speakers and van damme copper cables. Prior to that I had the Marantz 7005 receiver. Neither had any sibilance on ANY recording I own. The 7005 sounded better, with 7010 being brighter.

Last week I received 8012, thinking it would be pretty much same as 7010 in sound, but more features and channels. I am playing same music, same position with same speakers and cables.

One big caveat; I changed from thick carpet, weith underlay, to hard laminate flooring. I did this just before receiver arrived. 7010 sounded superb in my room. Now LOTS of recordings have sibilance. USB flac files, SACDs, vinyl rips. Everyhting is in exact same position.

Room or amp? Is this Marantz made to have a more pronounced upper mid range and highs? They already did that from the 7005 to the 7010.
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The removal of the carpeting for sure. Huge difference in sound between a carpeted floor and laminate one. Most likely you're hearing a pronounced 2 to 4 k peak bouncing off the floor. I had a similar issue years ago and carpet somewhat solved it although I used throw rugs so not completely.
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I asked this question a little while back but never really got a straight forward answer. I have an 8012 and when I put my ear by any of the speakers I can hear an audible buzz/static. Now I have 2 other receivers in the house and I do not hear it at any level with the other receivers. Nothin else changes except adding back in the Marantz and the buzz is back. Any takers?


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I asked this question a little while back but never really got a straight forward answer. I have an 8012 and when I put my ear by any of the speakers I can hear an audible buzz/static. Now I have 2 other receivers in the house and I do not hear it at any level with the other receivers. Nothin else changes except adding back in the Marantz and the buzz is back. Any takers?
Loads of posts on these forums about ground loop hum. Marantz AVRs seem to be more susceptible than others.

Isolate the source by removing all cables except speakers and add them back one at a time. In my case the source was twofold - My subwoofer amp (NX3000D) - grounding it's chassis to the AVR reduced the hum, and the CATV into the cable box - A ground loop isolator eliminated the rest of the hum.

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Loads of posts on these forums about ground loop hum. Marantz AVRs seem to be more susceptible than others.



Isolate the source by removing all cables except speakers and add them back one at a time. In my case the source was twofold - My subwoofer amp (NX3000D) - grounding it's chassis to the AVR reduced the hum, and the CATV into the cable box - A ground loop isolator eliminated the rest of the hum.



I used this isolator: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Ok, already have an isolation transformer on my CATV box, I’ll try your recommendation again over the weekend but I remember doing this before and with only the speakers connected the buzz/static was still present.


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Ok, already have an isolation transformer on my CATV box, I’ll try your recommendation again over the weekend but I remember doing this before and with only the speakers connected the buzz/static was still present.
If you still have the hum with only speakers connected, then look at other things plugged into the same socket/circuit. If eliminating those doesn't resolve the hum, then I would say there's an issue with the AVR itself.


ETA: And not all isolation transformers are created equally. I went through 3 to find one that worked in my situation.
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New Marantz 8012 receiver. Sibilance occuring; room or amp?

I just recieved this receiver 9 days ago.

I previously had a Marantz SR7010 which replaced the 7005 receiver, thus I have used Marantz for over a decade now.

PMC db1i speakers for surround(5) and van damme cables.

I thought the 7005 was great, and the 7010 a little bright in comparison, BUT NO SIBILANCE. Marantz made the highs stand out more with the HDAMS. I think they did this because they got accused of rolling off the highs, however I thought they sounded superb. I have had the 7010 for 4 years.

I thought I would upgrade since I wanted to run 11 speakers and a sub without adding an extra amp. I presumed the 8012 would be like the 7010 but with new features and more channels. Unfortunately now recordings I have had for years are unbearable with sibilance; ssssshow me the money,sssoooo extra.

The caveat is I changed from a thick carpet to hard laminate flooring before new receiver arrived. Everything else is the same. 7010 sounded great, with no sibilance on any music I have; sacds, dvds, blu rays, cds, flac files etc. The same music now sounds horrible with regards to vocals.sssss are so pronounced it is absurd.

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I just recieved this receiver 9 days ago.

I previously had a Marantz SR7010 which replaced the 7005 receiver, thus I have used Marantz for over a decade now.

PMC db1i speakers for surround(5) and van damme cables.

I thought the 7005 was great, and the 7010 a little bright in comparison, BUT NO SIBILANCE. Marantz made the highs stand out more with the HDAMS. I think they did this because they got accused of rolling off the highs, however I thought they sounded superb. I have had the 7010 for 4 years.

I thought I would upgrade since I wanted to run 11 speakers and a sub without adding an extra amp. I presumed the 8012 would be like the 7010 but with new features and more channels. Unfortunately now recordings I have had for years are unbearable with sibilance; ssssshow me the money,sssoooo extra.

The caveat is I changed from a thick carpet to hard laminate flooring before new receiver arrived. Everything else is the same. 7010 sounded great, with no sibilance on any music I have; sacds, dvds, blu rays, cds, flac files etc. The same music now sounds horrible with regards to vocals.sssss are so pronounced it is absurd.

Any thoughts appreciated
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Do you still have the 7010 or the use of entirely different AVR? This would be a first step in determining if the cause is the change in AVR or flooring material.

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I just recieved this receiver 9 days ago.



I previously had a Marantz SR7010 which replaced the 7005 receiver, thus I have used Marantz for over a decade now.



PMC db1i speakers for surround(5) and van damme cables.



I thought the 7005 was great, and the 7010 a little bright in comparison, BUT NO SIBILANCE. Marantz made the highs stand out more with the HDAMS. I think they did this because they got accused of rolling off the highs, however I thought they sounded superb. I have had the 7010 for 4 years.



I thought I would upgrade since I wanted to run 11 speakers and a sub without adding an extra amp. I presumed the 8012 would be like the 7010 but with new features and more channels. Unfortunately now recordings I have had for years are unbearable with sibilance; ssssshow me the money,sssoooo extra.



The caveat is I changed from a thick carpet to hard laminate flooring before new receiver arrived. Everything else is the same. 7010 sounded great, with no sibilance on any music I have; sacds, dvds, blu rays, cds, flac files etc. The same music now sounds horrible with regards to vocals.sssss are so pronounced it is absurd.



Any thoughts appreciated

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Did you get a good auto setup run and do you use audyssey?

The floor change will affect the sound a lot. There is a reason rule 1 for room treatment is carpet or rug in front of the speakers.


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Did you get a good auto setup run and do you use audyssey?

The floor change will affect the sound a lot. There is a reason rule 1 for room treatment is carpet or rug in front of the speakers.


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I do not use Audyssey.
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Do you still have the 7010 or the use of entirely different AVR? This would be a first step in determining if the cause is the change in AVR or flooring material.
I part exchanged the 7010.
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I just recieved this receiver 9 days ago.

I previously had a Marantz SR7010 which replaced the 7005 receiver, thus I have used Marantz for over a decade now.

PMC db1i speakers for surround(5) and van damme cables.

I thought the 7005 was great, and the 7010 a little bright in comparison, BUT NO SIBILANCE. Marantz made the highs stand out more with the HDAMS. I think they did this because they got accused of rolling off the highs, however I thought they sounded superb. I have had the 7010 for 4 years.

I thought I would upgrade since I wanted to run 11 speakers and a sub without adding an extra amp. I presumed the 8012 would be like the 7010 but with new features and more channels. Unfortunately now recordings I have had for years are unbearable with sibilance; ssssshow me the money,sssoooo extra.

The caveat is I changed from a thick carpet to hard laminate flooring before new receiver arrived. Everything else is the same. 7010 sounded great, with no sibilance on any music I have; sacds, dvds, blu rays, cds, flac files etc. The same music now sounds horrible with regards to vocals.sssss are so pronounced it is absurd.

Any thoughts appreciated
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Put the carpet back.
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Any reason why the Marantz website only shows the May firmware as the current? I know there have been several updates since.


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Any reason why the Marantz website only shows the May firmware as the current? I know there have been several updates since.


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Unfortunately, historically it's not kept up to date.
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Any reason why the Marantz website only shows the May firmware as the current? I know there have been several updates since.
My SR8012 has this F/W level : 6461-9102-6102-0025 and the European F/W page of the Marantz site is no longer accessible.

Is this the latest level ?
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My SR8012 has this F/W level : 6461-9102-6102-0025 and the European F/W page of the Marantz site is no longer accessible.

Is this the latest level ?
This seems unfathomable for a major manufacturer...
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Congrats, it’s a wonderful AVR. This thread is full of knowledgeable people. In particular jdsmoothie. Since you got it at such a great price, spend an extra $20 and get the Audyssey app to help get things dialed in.
Do you not think it is very midrangey? I hate the sibilance I never had with 7010 receiver.
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SR8012 Sudden Loss of Audio Output?

I have a SR8012 that we've been using since 2017. Its a great receiver but suddenly, through no apparent change in settings, we're experiencing a dramatic decrease in output volume.

We are running an 11.2 system in a moderate sized living room. Primary video source is an apple tv. We have always found the volume to a comfortable listening level around -32db. Suddenly this level is barely audible and we are turning up to -17db - -10db to achieve the same output. I used a meter to confirm the lower output. I tried re-calibrating but the results are the same.

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Is there a fix for this?
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I do not use Audyssey.
run the Audyssey and report back, The Marantz HDAM cts give a warmer signiture of sound

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I have a SR8012 that we've been using since 2017. Its a great receiver but suddenly, through no apparent change in settings, we're experiencing a dramatic decrease in output volume.

We are running an 11.2 system in a moderate sized living room. Primary video source is an apple tv. We have always found the volume to a comfortable listening level around -32db. Suddenly this level is barely audible and we are turning up to -17db - -10db to achieve the same output. I used a meter to confirm the lower output. I tried re-calibrating but the results are the same.

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Is there a fix for this?
DEQ turned off ?
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DEQ is off. I've always had it turned off.
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DEQ is off. I've always had it turned off.
No other clue then, we usually have this kind of important volume decrease when accidentaly turning DEQ off as we have it always on.
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I have a SR8012 that we've been using since 2017. Its a great receiver but suddenly, through no apparent change in settings, we're experiencing a dramatic decrease in output volume.

We are running an 11.2 system in a moderate sized living room. Primary video source is an apple tv. We have always found the volume to a comfortable listening level around -32db. Suddenly this level is barely audible and we are turning up to -17db - -10db to achieve the same output. I used a meter to confirm the lower output. I tried re-calibrating but the results are the same.

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Is there a fix for this?
Setting Dynamic Volume to OFF for this source would cause this issue so check that setting.
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