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"Official" 2017 Marantz SR8012 Owner's thread

This new "flagship" Marantz AVR is the first 11CH AVR from Marantz and was released Monday November 27, 2017.

Note: This model will continue through to November 2020

MSRP - $2999USD (only available in black in the USA/CA)


http://www.us.marantz.com/us/Product...oductId=SR8012

http://www.us.marantz.com/DocumentMa...R8012_NA01.pdf


Owner's manual --> http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster...DF_UG_v00A.pdf

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Key Features
AK4458VN 32 bit DAC
11.2 channel AV Receiver with 140W into 2CH @ 8-ohm
4K/60 Hz full-rate pass-through, 4:4:4 color resolution, HDR, BT.2020 , Dolby Vision and HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) pass-through
Single board per channel power amplifier design; centrally mounted, oversized toroidal transformer; copper-plated chassis
8 HDMI inputs (incl. 1 front) with full HDCP 2.2 support; 3 HDMI outputs (incl. Zone 2)
eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel) support via firmware update - Note an HDMI w/Ethernet cable must be used.
Analogue to HDMI conversion and SD to HD/4K Upscaling
Dolby Atmos (up to 7.1.4), DTS:X™, and Auro-3D built-in
DTS Virtual:X (via firmware update)
Built-in Wi-Fi with 2.4GHz/5GHz dual band support
Built-in HEOS Wireless Multi-Room Audio Technology
Alexa Voice Control via HEOS Home Entertainment Skill
AirPlay, Bluetooth, Internet Radio (TuneIn)
Pandora, Spotify, TuneIn, Amazon Music, DEEZER, Napster, iHeartRadio, SiriusXM, SOUNDCLOUD, TIDAL, Rhapsody, JUKE!, AWA, and QPlay via the HEOS app (free, iOS/Android)
DSD (2.8/5.6MHz), FLAC, ALAC and WAV support
Audyssey MultEQ XT32, LFC, Sub EQ HT, Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ
Color-coded speaker terminals, Setup Assistant, Marantz 2016 AVR Remote App
Intelligent ECO mode with off/on/auto setting
Advanced multiroom options; 11.2-channel processing with pre-outs for all channels; RS232 Control; Crestron Connected
Able to use the 2016 Marantz AVR Remote app (free, iOS/Android)
Able to use the Audyssey MultEQ Editor app ($20 iOS/Android) to include editing the Audyssey target curve for each pair of speakers
Made in Japan
Learning Remote w/LCD and backlite button
Airplay 2 (via future firmware update)
Web Control (via future firmware update)
Able to use the Surround Back L speaker post for powered VOG/Top Surround instead of Sub pre-out 2
IMAX Enhanced DTS:X (via firmware update early 2019)

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How do I reset the microprocessor or do a network reset?

When the AVR is acting up or doing something strange, try the following steps before resorting to a microprocessor reset:

1. "Restart" - set the AVR to Standby and press/hold the power ON button until "Restart" is displayed on the front panel.

If no joy, then ...

2. Soft reset - set the AVR to Standby and unplug the power cord for about 10 minutes, then plug back in the power cord and turn ON.

If neither of the above resolves the issue, then you'll need to either do a network reset (if network related) or a microprocessor reset. You'll also want to reset the microprocessor before doing anything else if you purchased the AVR as an "open box" or demo/used/refurb unit to ensure all settings are returned to their original factory defaults. Prior to doing a reset, you can SAVE the config file to a USB thumb drive so it can be LOADed after doing the reset (SETUP - GENERAL - SAVE&LOAD).


Network Reset (“Amp Assign”, “Speaker Config.” and “Video” settings are not reset)

1 - Turn ON the power using ON/STANDBY.
2 - Select the HEOS Music source
3 - Simultaneously press/hold the "BACK" and "ENTER" buttons for at least 3 seconds.
4 - Release your fingers when "Network Reset" is displayed on the front panel.
5 - "Complete" will display when the reset has completed.

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Microprocessor Reset (aka "Reset to original factory settings" with no change to current firmware version)

1 - Turn off the power using ON/STANDBY.
2 - Press and release ON/STANDBY (as you normally would when powering on the AVR) while simultaneously pressing/holding the "GAME" and "INFO" buttons on the front panel
3 - Remove your fingers from the two buttons when "Initialized" appears on the front panel display.

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** NOTE:
(1) Prior to resetting the microprocessor, you can SAVE the config/settings (to include Audyssey settings) to a USB thumb drive using the SETUP - GENERAL - SAVE & LOAD setting.

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Network Reset + Microprocessor Reset (aka "Reset to original factory settings" with no change to current firmware version)

1 - Turn off the power using ON/STANDBY.
2 - Press and release ON/STANDBY (as you normally would when powering on the AVR) while simultaneously pressing/holding the "MOVIE" and "MUSIC" buttons on the front panel
3 - Remove your fingers from the two buttons when "Initialized" appears on the front panel display.

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Factory Restore (restore to original factory firmware version)

1 - Turn off the power using ON/STANDBY.
2 - Simultaneously press/hold the: "M-DAX" and "DYNAMIC EQ" buttons on the front panel and then press the ON/STANDBY button on the front panel. This procedure will take 15-20 minutes to restore to the original factory firmware.
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Firmware Change log Information

(1) Firmware updates for the AR8012 should be available via Marantz's website and can be downloaded and installed via USB thumb drive. You will need to enter the serial number of the AVR at the website page to obtain the update.

(2) Firmware updates can also be installed by the owner via an internet connection to the Marantz servers. Although it's not necessary to update your unit if you are not experiencing any problems, it's generally a good idea to keep it updated so that if there are any problems with the update the unit will still be covered under warranty. The update process generally doesn't take more than 30 minutes once the download begins and also generally does not erase any settings, although it's always a good idea to SAVE the config.avr file using the Setup - General - SAVE & LOAD - SAVE feature prior to doing the update just in case. Note that if the update process is stuck on "Authenticating", ensure a source other than NET/USB is selected and just let it continue for up to a few hours and it should eventually begin the update process (although note that Marantz's servers have been known to crash the first day of release due to the overload, so you may want to wait a few days before trying again).

Other tips if having problems with the update include setting "Network Control" to OFF in Standby, cycling the DHCP setting on the AVR, or using a static IP address.

During the update, the AVR will go into Standby mode, but will continue to update status on the front panel display. If the update seems to be hung up (ie. goes beyond 1 hour) ... power the AVR to Standby, unplug it for a few minutes and power back on and attempt the update again. If the update fails to load, check the network environment (ie. reset the router, replace the router with a more current/robust model, or ideally wire directly to the router if connecting wirelessly) If still not having any luck with the update, perform a Network Reset as described in post 3 above. You may also want to consider purchasing a long (100'+) Cat5/6 cable for network updates only for a higher probability of a successful install.

You will be notified automatically when there is a firmware update when the AVR is turned ON as long as the Notification Update setting is set to ON (factory default). For more information refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Notifications -Update in the Owner's manual. To manually check for an update, refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Update - Check for Update.

(3) What is my unit's current firmware version? The current firmware version can be determined from the AVR's menu: Setup --> General --> Information --> Firmware Version.


Firmware change log date/info:
1. 5-31-2018
- If the product is connected to ALLM compatible TV (HDMI 2.1), the transmission rate of 4K 50p / 60p format video does not become 6 Gbps.
6 Gbps of 4K signal is below.
4k 50p / 60p YCbCr 4: 2: 0 30/36 bit
4K 50p / 60p RGB 4: 4: 4 24bit
4K 50p / 60p YCbCr 4: 2: 2 36 bits
- Sometimes no grouping possible between some HEOS speakers.
- Specific Flac files from customer do not play; neither via USB or network (twonky server 8.2.1)
- After update, grouping of two HEOS products was no longer possible when Stereo grouped.
- When selecting the HEOS 1 under setup/help/system check/network status, and selecting the router it is connected to, a different value is shown.
- Two values for BSSID´s which are definitely wrong.
- Improved stability of audio playback and wireless connection when connecting HEOS speaker, HEOS AMP as wireless surround to HEOS Bar or HEOS AVR.
- Reduced time to detect HEOS equipment on the network and improved reliability.

2. 8-9-2018
- Airplay 2
- ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode)
- DTS Virtual:X

3. 10-31-2018
- eARC (note that in order to pass "enhanced" HD audio from an eARC able TV (not expected until late 2018/early 2019), one of the following HDMI cables must be used to connect the AVR to the TV: Standard w/Ethernet, High Speed w/Ethernet (including "Premium" High Speed w/Ethernet), or Ultra High Speed w/Ethernet)
- Web Control (reintroduced after being dropped on all 2016-2017 HEOS models - currently only “Audio”, “Video”, ”Speakers” and “Inputs” can be accessed. “General” and “Network” will be supported early in 2019 via another firmware update)

4. 2-6-2019
- IMAX Enhanced DTS:X
- Web Control (access to GENERAL and NETWORK)

5. 4-17-2019
- Improves overall performance and stability

6. 4-23-2019
- Corrects control system issue caused by the 4-17-2019 update



** NOTES:
(1) The change log information above is provided as is, without any further explanation and only when I am able to obtain it. If the information listed above doesn't make sense, please don't ask for clarification, as I have none.
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It appears the European version of the SR8012 will be the first D+M AVR model to remove the AM/FM Tuner as there is a dedicated TUNER analog input. This is not the case for the USA model, as although there is no HD Radio, the standard AM/FM radio tuners are still on board.

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that why I like this ampli av 8012.I like onkyo but I no need tuner and very important the marantz sr8012 have( big oversized toroidal transformer) ,for my opinion the marantz whit other model before is good for the music but less power but this one sr-8012 I hop is terrible machine for the first time maybe I change my reciever onkyo , but I need wait for review .

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I like the model in europe whit no tuner ,when you have no tuner ,you have less noice and interference and the power is clean.

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I like the model in europe whit no tuner ,when you have no tuner ,you have less noice and interference and the power is clean.
Good thing you're in Europe then.
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I live to montreal and every day I check AVS FORUM and HOMECINEMA-FR.COM forum two bigs forum ,I check french and English forum every day and I check all can of receiver or power amplifier and tv to and I reed all threads from 2 forums English and french.


that why I know the problem for all model home cinema ,for shur when I talk some problem for receiver is not all have the problem but you see the company marants pioneer ,Yamaha denon and onkyo how fast he fix and when.

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I live to montreal and every day I check AVS FORUM and HOMECINEMA-FR.COM forum two bigs forum ,I check french and English forum every day and I check all can of receiver or power amplifier and tv to and I reed all threads from 2 forums English and french.


that why I know the problem for all model home cinema ,for shur when I talk some problem for receiver is not all have the problem but you see the company marants pioneer ,Yamaha denon and onkyo how fast he fix and when.
The USA/CA model will include the TUNER.
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thank you for information .

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I know JD said it's a HDMI 2.0 but I am hoping they can make it HDMI 2.1
Not that I really need it now, but I am looking for any excuse to upgrade my 7010, which has been doing sterling service.
Otherwise I can't really find a decent reason for the upgrade, especially if it does cost 3k Euros...
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the receiver denon avc-x8500 comming whit 2.1 and 13 chanels but the price grrrrrrrrrrr

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Question for you


witch between better sound whit marantz sr8012 or av7704 whit mm8077 and 7755.




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witch between better sound whit marantz sr8012 or av7704 whit mm8077 and 7755.




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The SR8012 hasn't even been released yet.
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I know JD said it's a HDMI 2.0 but I am hoping they can make it HDMI 2.1
Not that I really need it now, but I am looking for any excuse to upgrade my 7010, which has been doing sterling service.
Otherwise I can't really find a decent reason for the upgrade, especially if it does cost 3k Euros...
HDMI 2.1 is a hardware upgrade so not going to happen on any 2017 models, rather only likely on the higher level 2018 models and not likely until 2019 for the remaining models.
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when you see the Inside componant from europe to marantz sr 8012 see France or uk .


I repete my question


whitch the best sound and power sound from sr8012 or marantz av7704 copling plus maranz mm8755 whit mm7735


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I can order the sr8012 for me only.

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when you see the Inside componant from europe to marantz sr 8012 see France or uk .


I repete my question


whitch the best sound and power sound from sr8012 or marantz av7704 copling plus maranz mm8755 whit mm7735


thank you


I can order the sr8012 for me only.

The SR8012 won't be released in the USA for another week and not available at dealers for 1-2 weeks.

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in canada sale to 4000 can and usa éventually sale around 3200 us .

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The SR8012 won't be released in the USA for another week and not available at dealers for 1-2 weeks.
One dealer site showing availability on 15 December...

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One dealer site showing availability on 15 December...
Depends on dealer location. It is scheduled for release next week from California which means East Coast dealers won't get them for another week after that. We should have them available the last week of November.
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ONE DEALER from canada we have in stock last 2 weeks ,but I wait for april 2018 ,mayby miracle onkyo show new flagship or wait for denon avr or avc-x8500h but I think this new denon is very expensif .I think and i wait,for new and price.

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ONE DEALER from canada we have in stock last 2 weeks ,but I wait for april 2018 ,mayby miracle onkyo show new flagship or wait for denon avr or avc-x8500h but I think this new denon is very expensif .I think and i wait,for new and price.
The two pieces on my radar are the SR8012 (Nov/Dec) and the X8500H (Spring 2018). It’s unfortunate that Onkyo will likely be late (autumn 2018) to the party with a replacement flagship for the RZ3100. The SR8012 at $3000 MSRP looks promising for its capability and feature set and the X8500H at $4000 MSRP??? appears very promising with even greater capability and feature set. In any case, the D+M pieces appear to have an advantage due to Onkyo’s incongruent timing.

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IIRC, the Denon has no tuner, not even an Internet Radio function?
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IIRC, the Denon has no tuner, not even an Internet Radio function?
So far we have only rumors about the dropping of the AM/FM tuner in the higher-end D&M equipment. The model designation for the "receiver" shown in the photo of the presentation in China calls it an "AVC" instead of "AVR" which does seem suggestive, but that might change for the U.S. model.

Note that Internet Radio is provided by the TuneIn feature of HEOS, which is provided in all current networked D&M equipment.

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IIRC, the Denon has no tuner, not even an Internet Radio function?
Only in other parts of the world. The USA/CA X8500H will have a TUNER (not likely HD though). And all models include HEOS which includes Internet radio.
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The SR8012 won't be released in the USA for another week and not available at dealers for 1-2 weeks.
JD, can you please let me know when this model is available for purchase? I need to upgrade my SR7010 bad.
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JD, can you please let me know when this model is available for purchase? I need to upgrade my SR7010 bad.
Sure. We should have our first order the week after Thanksgiving.
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I need to upgrade my SR7010 bad.
Can you share with us...why?

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