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You'll have to go with your second choice.


How do you arrive at this? I have my dac connected in the spare XLR connectors, and thought I was good.


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How do you arrive at this? I have my dac connected in the spare XLR connectors, and thought I was good.


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RCA/XLR inputs using Pure Direct still pass signal through the ADC/DAC. Use the RCA multi analog inputs.
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RCA/XLR inputs using Pure Direct still pass signal through the ADC/DAC. Use the RCA multi analog inputs.


That sucks, because that means I have to pull the 8805 out of the rack yet again. Is that listed somewhere?


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Yup. Post 3753.
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I was thinking along the lines of a Marantz contact, but okay.


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I was thinking along the lines of a Marantz contact, but okay.
IIRC and FWIW, this was discussed much earlier in this thread as well.
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You'll have to go with your second choice.

Thanks JD! Me no complaints, just wanted confirmation so I knew what to do

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Thanks JD! Me no complaints, just wanted confirmation so I knew what to do


Thanks from me too JD!! Your way works, I just didn’t want to accept it.


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Unless you want to more features then I doubt you would get much of an improvement going from 7703 to a 7705. Going from 7703 to 8805 is a fairly large upgrade in almost all areas. However, it all depends on if you Outlaw amp matched with your speakers are transparent enough to really appreciate the difference. Just take a look at the internals of the 7705 vs. 8805 and you will see how much more discrete circuitry the 8805 has (especial HDAMs).

Form my experience, comparing with the Denon, the Marantz will sound warmer and more musical. It's up to you which sound signature you like. If you plan on keeping your Outlaw. amp, then my vote would be getting the Marantz 8805 vs. Denon 8500.
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I'd bet $50 you couldn't hear the difference in a blind listening test! They both measure near identical as are the published specs.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...rocessor.6926/

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did you mean between the 7705 and 8805? most of my listening is movies so maybe it would be more difficult to notice the differences.
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Thanks for the insights. I am definitely getting the UB820 I’m a little broke right now lol. I moved my timeline up 3 or 4 months. I have an APPLE TV 4K and wanted to get the panny first but I jumped the gun.
In stead of the UB820, you could use those funds and get calibration done and enjoy custom curves on your JVC so everything you watch is top notch.
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In stead of the UB820, you could use those funds and get calibration done and enjoy custom curves on your JVC so everything you watch is top notch.


I’m going to probably do both but isn’t the 820 the best player for the JVC?


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did you mean between the 7705 and 8805? most of my listening is movies so maybe it would be more difficult to notice the differences.
Yes, or from a 7703 to a 8805. The greatest difference is in the number of channels and features available from the different models. Marantz posts virtually identical spec's for the units even in the critical areas of SN and Distortion.
If you prefer to fall in with the "creamy midrange and tizzy highs" crowd that post their listening experiences without any level matched blind listening comparisons that's up to you.





AV 7703

Audio section
Analog
Input sensitivity: 200 mV
Frequency response: 10 Hz – 100 kHz — +1, –3 dB (Direct mode)
S/N: 105 dB (IHF–A weighted, Direct mode)
Distortion: 0.005 % (20 Hz – 20 kHz) (Direct mode)
Rated output: Unbalanced RCA pre-output: 1.2 V
Balanced XLR pre-output: 2.4 V
0 Digital
D/A output:
Rated output — 2 V (at 0 dB playback)
Total harmonic distortion — 0.008 % (1 kHz, at 0 dB)
S/N ratio — 102 dB
Dynamic range — 100 dB
Digital input:
Format — Digital audio interface
Phono equalizer
Input sensitivity: 2.5 mV
RIAA deviation: ±1 dB (20 Hz to 20 kHz)
S/N: 74 dB (A weighting, with 5 mV input)
Distortion factor: 0.03 % (1 kHz, 3 V)



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Analog
Input sensitivity: Unbalanced RCA input : 200 mV
Balanced XLR input : 400 mV
Frequency response: 10 Hz – 100 kHz — +1, –3 dB (Direct mode)
S/N: 105 dB (IHF–A weighted, Direct mode)
Distortion: 0.005 % (20 Hz – 20 kHz) (Direct mode)
Rated output: Unbalanced RCA pre-output: 1.2 V
Balanced XLR pre-output: 2.4 V
Digital
D/A output:
Rated output — 2 V (at 0 dB playback)
Total harmonic distortion — 0.008 % (1 kHz, at 0 dB)
S/N ratio — 102 dB
Dynamic range — 100 dB
Digital input:
Format — Digital audio interface
Phono equalizer
Input sensitivity: 2.5 mV
RIAA deviation: ±1 dB (20 Hz to 20 kHz)
S/N: 74 dB (IHF-A weighted, with 5 mV input)
Distortion factor: 0.03 % (1 kHz, 3 V)
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Yes, or from a 7703 to a 8805. The greatest difference is in the number of channels and features available from the different models. Marantz posts virtually identical spec's for the units even in the critical areas of SN and Distortion.
If you prefer to fall in with the "creamy midrange and tizzy highs" crowd that post their listening experiences without any level matched blind listening comparisons that's up to you.





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Audio section
Analog
Input sensitivity: 200 mV
Frequency response: 10 Hz – 100 kHz — +1, –3 dB (Direct mode)
S/N: 105 dB (IHF–A weighted, Direct mode)
Distortion: 0.005 % (20 Hz – 20 kHz) (Direct mode)
Rated output: Unbalanced RCA pre-output: 1.2 V
Balanced XLR pre-output: 2.4 V
0 Digital
D/A output:
Rated output — 2 V (at 0 dB playback)
Total harmonic distortion — 0.008 % (1 kHz, at 0 dB)
S/N ratio — 102 dB
Dynamic range — 100 dB
Digital input:
Format — Digital audio interface
Phono equalizer
Input sensitivity: 2.5 mV
RIAA deviation: ±1 dB (20 Hz to 20 kHz)
S/N: 74 dB (A weighting, with 5 mV input)
Distortion factor: 0.03 % (1 kHz, 3 V)



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Audio section
Analog
Input sensitivity: Unbalanced RCA input : 200 mV
Balanced XLR input : 400 mV
Frequency response: 10 Hz – 100 kHz — +1, –3 dB (Direct mode)
S/N: 105 dB (IHF–A weighted, Direct mode)
Distortion: 0.005 % (20 Hz – 20 kHz) (Direct mode)
Rated output: Unbalanced RCA pre-output: 1.2 V
Balanced XLR pre-output: 2.4 V
Digital
D/A output:
Rated output — 2 V (at 0 dB playback)
Total harmonic distortion — 0.008 % (1 kHz, at 0 dB)
S/N ratio — 102 dB
Dynamic range — 100 dB
Digital input:
Format — Digital audio interface
Phono equalizer
Input sensitivity: 2.5 mV
RIAA deviation: ±1 dB (20 Hz to 20 kHz)
S/N: 74 dB (IHF-A weighted, with 5 mV input)
Distortion factor: 0.03 % (1 kHz, 3 V)
thanks again for the comparison and fact checking, upgrade-itis is a terrible affliction
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Yes, or from a 7703 to a 8805. The greatest difference is in the number of channels and features available from the different models. Marantz posts virtually identical spec's for the units even in the critical areas of SN and Distortion.
If you prefer to fall in with the "creamy midrange and tizzy highs" crowd that post their listening experiences without any level matched blind listening comparisons that's up to you.





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Audio section
Analog
Input sensitivity: 200 mV
Frequency response: 10 Hz – 100 kHz — +1, –3 dB (Direct mode)
S/N: 105 dB (IHF–A weighted, Direct mode)
Distortion: 0.005 % (20 Hz – 20 kHz) (Direct mode)
Rated output: Unbalanced RCA pre-output: 1.2 V
Balanced XLR pre-output: 2.4 V
0 Digital
D/A output:
Rated output — 2 V (at 0 dB playback)
Total harmonic distortion — 0.008 % (1 kHz, at 0 dB)
S/N ratio — 102 dB
Dynamic range — 100 dB
Digital input:
Format — Digital audio interface
Phono equalizer
Input sensitivity: 2.5 mV
RIAA deviation: ±1 dB (20 Hz to 20 kHz)
S/N: 74 dB (A weighting, with 5 mV input)
Distortion factor: 0.03 % (1 kHz, 3 V)



AV 8805
Audio section
Analog
Input sensitivity: Unbalanced RCA input : 200 mV
Balanced XLR input : 400 mV
Frequency response: 10 Hz – 100 kHz — +1, –3 dB (Direct mode)
S/N: 105 dB (IHF–A weighted, Direct mode)
Distortion: 0.005 % (20 Hz – 20 kHz) (Direct mode)
Rated output: Unbalanced RCA pre-output: 1.2 V
Balanced XLR pre-output: 2.4 V
Digital
D/A output:
Rated output — 2 V (at 0 dB playback)
Total harmonic distortion — 0.008 % (1 kHz, at 0 dB)
S/N ratio — 102 dB
Dynamic range — 100 dB
Digital input:
Format — Digital audio interface
Phono equalizer
Input sensitivity: 2.5 mV
RIAA deviation: ±1 dB (20 Hz to 20 kHz)
S/N: 74 dB (IHF-A weighted, with 5 mV input)
Distortion factor: 0.03 % (1 kHz, 3 V)
I actually have both the 8805 and the 7704. They are both great sounding units. In my spare time I did compare side by side, (not blind, probably jaded) I thought the 8805 gave a slightly fuller sound stage. I don’t know your speakers to know if they are capable of hearing the difference but I have to agree that unless you can enjoy the added features of the 8805 the 7705 is likely a better deal for the money. With that being said, 8805 will enjoy more upgrades, 2.1 for example. Also, while real money, the price difference for a quality unit like the 8805 still makes it compelling. Placebo effect or not, I love my 8805.
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my 8805 is arriving today...i really can't achieve atmos in my room...it has cathedral wood ceiling that are pretty high....i tried a couple of atmos enabled speakers on my towers....adds a little effect ...but not not much...i now have a 7.2.2 set up(i think)...my snell towers have built in 10 in subwoofers...i set them up as large with a crossover of 80....any suggestions if i would(or could) install front wides to make it a 9.2.2 or would it be a waste of time...i can't put ceiling speakers in at all..the room is pretty big ...its 20x 38....right now with my 7703 music sounds amazing(to me)....any insight would be appreciated...
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any suggestions if i would(or could) install front wides to make it a 9.2.2 or would it be a waste of time
Not a waste of time to add Wides to your set-up. They're helpful whenever there is content to feed them, even if that's not as often as we'd like.
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Not a waste of time to add Wides to your set-up. They're helpful whenever there is content to feed them, even if that's not as often as we'd like. How about high up on the walls?
hi thank you for responding....the problem with placing them high up on the walls is that the ceiling slopes....so to make them even they wouldn't be that high up....i placed the rear surround speakers kinda far up....i like the way they sound alot....going to add the front wides since the room is so large i think it would def add something....the 8805 just arrived, setting it up now....i will play somemore with possible atmos later on...thanks again
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my snell towers have built in 10 in subwoofers...i set them up as large with a crossover of 80....
Speakers either get configured as large (with no crossover) or small (with a selected crossover frequency), not both. If you don't have any subwoofers, then it probably makes sense to configure your most capable speakers as large - bass content from other speakers configured as small will get redirected to the large speakers.
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my 8805 is arriving today...i really can't achieve atmos in my room...it has cathedral wood ceiling that are pretty high....i tried a couple of atmos enabled speakers on my towers....adds a little effect ...but not not much...i now have a 7.2.2 set up(i think)...my snell towers have built in 10 in subwoofers...i set them up as large with a crossover of 80....any suggestions if i would(or could) install front wides to make it a 9.2.2 or would it be a waste of time...i can't put ceiling speakers in at all..the room is pretty big ...its 20x 38....right now with my 7703 music sounds amazing(to me)....any insight would be appreciated...
If the .2 in 7.2.2 are the subs built into the tower speakers, seriously consider adding one or two dedicated subs as it would likely provide an improvement in lower end processing. Subs in towers aren't always ideally located nor as capable as quality dedicated sub or subs.
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yes i thought about getting subs...have no idea where to start looking to be honest...if i get a couple of subs do i disengage the ones built into the snell towers?.....so many subs out there at different prices..going to have to research it....setting up the 8805 was a breeze...harmony remote working great....thanks everyone for your help.....and thanks to steve h....
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yes i thought about getting subs...have no idea where to start looking to be honest...if i get a couple of subs do i disengage the ones built into the snell towers?.....so many subs out there at different prices..going to have to research it....setting up the 8805 was a breeze...harmony remote working great....thanks everyone for your help.....and thanks to steve h....
If you get subs, you should configure all of your speakers as "small" and select appropriate crossovers for them (80Hz being the usual recommendation as a starting point).
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yes i thought about getting subs...have no idea where to start looking to be honest...if i get a couple of subs do i disengage the ones built into the snell towers?.....so many subs out there at different prices..going to have to research it....setting up the 8805 was a breeze...harmony remote working great....thanks everyone for your help.....and thanks to steve h....
I would yes, which is what I do setting my towers to SMALL/60Hz; however, worth trying it with them engaged as well as it's your setup.
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Thanks JD! Me no complaints, just wanted confirmation so I knew what to do


It looks like we we jumped the gun. I sent an email to Marantz after JD’s response to me, and someone from their tier 2 got back to me. He said that using the pure audio mode with an analog input doesn’t use the internal DACs of the 8805. As long as you use the XLR inputs with the pure audio mode it will do what you want.




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It looks like we we jumped the gun. I sent an email to Marantz after JD’s response to me, and someone from their tier 2 got back to me. He said that using the pure audio mode with an analog input doesn’t use the internal DACs of the 8805. As long as you use the XLR inputs with the pure audio mode it will do what you want.
Do you mind copy/pasting the exact text of what the Tier 2 dude said? I'd like to know the precise way he worded his answer on this one.

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Same here

IMHO, it's one of the few confused & confusing features of the excellent Marantz's. The manual is clear as mud as to exactly what Pure Direct mode means & does other than turn off video/display circuits. Turning off these circuits IMO is no big deal & near worthless as a feature. OTOH, if it bypasses DAC's & DSP's on analog, that is a big deal. I have the 8802A but this question applies to both.

It either does or doesn't so this should be an easy question for Marantz to answer.

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It looks like we we jumped the gun. I sent an email to Marantz after JD’s response to me, and someone from their tier 2 got back to me. He said that using the pure audio mode with an analog input doesn’t use the internal DACs of the 8805. As long as you use the XLR inputs with the pure audio mode it will do what you want.

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Uh yeh .. email another tech and he'll tell you that using the XLR inputs is no different than using the stereo RCA inputs (ie. still passes through ADC/DAC when using PURE DIRECT/DIRECT).

Bottom line .. this hasn't changed in any of the Denon/Marantz models to date in that the only true analog pass through is by using the multi analog inputs.

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Do you mind copy/pasting the exact text of what the Tier 2 dude said? I'd like to know the precise way he worded his answer on this one.
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Hello x,

Thank you for contacting Sound United Support, we value you as a customer and appreciate the opportunity to be of assistance!

My name is Jim. I am a Tier 2 Technical Support Lead for Denon and Marantz. I understand you have some questions about the DAC in your AV8805.

If you want to completely bypass the internal, DAC the only way of guaranteeing that this happens is to not use HDMI or a network based source. If your input source is analog whether RCA or XLR, and you are using Pure Direct, the DAC gets "skipped".

Audio output is always going to be analog. So anything that starts out as a digital signal has to be converted to analog in order for your speakers to be able to play it.

Now, having said that, if you are using Pure Direct any digital signal will get converted to analog and then it will be sent directly to be amplified and then out to your speakers, no other processing will happen. It will not be up mixed to a higher resolution of audio and the sound format will remain unchanged.

If you have any further questions please feel free to contact us again.

Thank you for contacting Sound United Customer Support. Have a great day!
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Here you go:

Hello x,

Thank you for contacting Sound United Support, we value you as a customer and appreciate the opportunity to be of assistance!

My name is Jim. I am a Tier 2 Technical Support Lead for Denon and Marantz. I understand you have some questions about the DAC in your AV8805.

If you want to completely bypass the internal, DAC the only way of guaranteeing that this happens is to not use HDMI or a network based source. If your input source is analog whether RCA or XLR, and you are using Pure Direct, the DAC gets "skipped".
Contradicted by a SU dealer tech support rep who indicated this is incorrect.

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yes i thought about getting subs...have no idea where to start looking to be honest...if i get a couple of subs do i disengage the ones built into the snell towers?.....so many subs out there at different prices..going to have to research it....setting up the 8805 was a breeze...harmony remote working great....thanks everyone for your help.....and thanks to steve h....

Here are two excellent choices for subwoofers:

www.seatonsound.com

www.jtrspeakers.com


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