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It is limited to 44.1khz CD-quality, but unless his source files are better than that, it's no different than DLNA so far as SQ. Of course, I'm not going to delve further down the hi-res rabbit hole, so....if you want that and believe you can hear the difference, then, true, Airplay will not allow it. If you're listening to your iTunes music library, which is likely going to be 44.1khz or less (how much HD music is available on iTunes? any?) and probably lossy, then it's more than adequate.


Not trying to get into a big debate here but the ability to do X and actually doing X are two different things and where you are Airplaying from will have a lot to do with that.

There is a reason why most ppl choose DLNA or SMB over AirPlay but at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference and I was offering another option to the OP who is having a problem with AirPlay.


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Are you using the same M-Dax settings?
the m-dax was set to low on the 8805 and off on the 7012.
changing it to off seems to have brought it much closer, but I still feel like there is some difference.

i will play with the dialog enhancer too, see if that helps.
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Not trying to get into a big debate here but the ability to do X and actually doing X are two different things and where you are Airplaying from will have a lot to do with that.

There is a reason why most ppl choose DLNA or SMB over AirPlay but at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference and I was offering another option to the OP who is having a problem with AirPlay.


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Thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a shot as well.
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Not trying to get into a big debate here but the ability to do X and actually doing X are two different things and where you are Airplaying from will have a lot to do with that.

There is a reason why most ppl choose DLNA or SMB over AirPlay but at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference and I was offering another option to the OP who is having a problem with AirPlay.


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How so? All sources need to transcode to 44.1k ALAC to put their Airplay packets over the network. Do you think some things can do that better than others?

The reasons people choose DLNA or SMB are unlikely based in any solid technical knowledge of how the protocols work. Outside audio above 44.1k (or non PCM-audio, like DSD), there's no SQ advantage to any of them. There are certainly usability differences, though. If one wants to pick for that, I'd certainly agree!
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I finally had the time to mess with audyssey some.. the Emotiva Differential Reference 3 channel was reverse phased (according to audyssey).
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I finally had the time to mess with audyssey some.. the Emotiva Differential Reference 3 channel was reverse phased (according to audyssey).


All Emotiva amps are like that. Reverse the speaker bindings at amp end. Problem solved.


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How do I ensure that Heo will play Tidal at HiFi quality through my 8805?

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How do I ensure that Heo will play Tidal at HiFi quality through my 8805?
If you have a paid TIDAL subscription, that should do it ...

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There is no visual icon or settings to control what you stream. As long as you have a valid TIDAL HiFi subscription it will automatically stream HiFi. TIDAL HiFi streams in Lossless FLAC 16bit/44.1kHz and TIDAL Premium streams in AAC 320kbps
https://support.tidal.com/hc/en-us/a...-HEOS-by-Denon
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Hate to somewhat derail but there has to be a better way to play the music you are trying to play as Airplay will never give you the best quality or anywhere close to it.
I’m assuming this is your iTunes music, is it stored on a computer that you can stream from using DLNA?
I have been using you tube, watch the video while you jam and its free Fun fact, Despasito is the number 1 watched video on you tube, over 5 billion views....
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If you have a paid TIDAL subscription, that should do it ...



https://support.tidal.com/hc/en-us/a...-HEOS-by-Denon
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How do I ensure that Heo will play Tidal at HiFi quality through my 8805?
Just hooked it up last night! It works like a charm. An incredible amount of music at your finger tips. IMHO the HEOS app alone is worth the upgrade to the 8805. After running the app, tweaking the system to my likes and streaming some of my favorites I had a smile a mile wide.
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Any word on the auro3d firmware?

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Any word on the auro3d firmware?
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He say's "that's a good girl." I can hear it nice and clear on my 8805.
Thanks for checking on it. Not certain if people liking your comment means that they also hear the same thing.

Fairly certain that this specific scene was dubbed over when he thanks the elephant. They dont even have subtitles on the film for what he says.

If I were to bet money on it, I would say that PT says "Thatta girl"

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Sorry I'm late to the debate on whether to "upgrade" to the 8805. Is it true that the 8805 does not feature an HD FM Tuner as does the 8802A. If this is the case then it is a serious omission for a classical music buff in rural Central Florida. Both Tampa and Orlando public radio stations within range transmit classical only on their HD2 channels.

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Sorry I'm late to the debate on whether to "upgrade" to the 8805. Is it true that the 8805 does not feature an HD FM Tuner as does the 8802A. If this is the case then it is a serious omission for a classical music buff in rural Central Florida. Both Tampa and Orlando public radio stations within range transmit classical only on their HD2 channels.
Correct. Replaced with internet radio. Note however, that numerous HD2/HD3 channels are available via internet radio as well.

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Sorry I'm late to the debate on whether to "upgrade" to the 8805. Is it true that the 8805 does not feature an HD FM Tuner as does the 8802A. If this is the case then it is a serious omission for a classical music buff in rural Central Florida. Both Tampa and Orlando public radio stations within range transmit classical only on their HD2 channels.
These are available, and can be hooked up to a digital input:

https://www.amazon.com/Sangean-HDT-2...ngean+hd+radio

https://www.amazon.com/Sangean-HDT-1...HD+radio+tuner
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Is there a significant improvement in sound quality by making the move from the 8802A to the 8805?

I craved Dolby Atmos and DTS-X, so when the 8802A came out, I got one to replace a Meridian G68. It's done a fine job, but it can't match the Meridian for music reproduction. I'm wondering if the 8805 closes the gap, or if I should be looking at something like the Lyngdorf MP-50.

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We are still waiting for serious reviews and comparisons.

In my system the sound is quite good .
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Is there a significant improvement in sound quality by making the move from the 8802A to the 8805?

I craved Dolby Atmos and DTS-X, so when the 8802A came out, I got one to replace a Meridian G68. It's done a fine job, but it can't match the Meridian for music reproduction. I'm wondering if the 8805 closes the gap, or if I should be looking at something like the Lyngdorf MP-50.

Any thoughts?

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For music comparisons,yes there is improvement but how significant will be ones priorities. From what I hear in my setup the improvement warrants a move.

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We are still waiting for serious reviews and comparisons.

In my system the sound is quite good .
Couldn't agree more.
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Is there a significant improvement in sound quality by making the move from the 8802A to the 8805?

I craved Dolby Atmos and DTS-X, so when the 8802A came out, I got one to replace a Meridian G68. It's done a fine job, but it can't match the Meridian for music reproduction. I'm wondering if the 8805 closes the gap, or if I should be looking at something like the Lyngdorf MP-50.

Any thoughts?

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No, brands like Meridian and Classé are musically unattainable for any Marantz or Denon. AV8805 is an excellent audio-video processor, but that's the target.
I have no idea how Lyngdorf sounds or other hi-end processors, but Meridian is almost unreachable at all.
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We are still waiting for serious reviews and comparisons.
Sometimes these high end units like this never get a pro review, even though they are the best, it is a "niche" unit.
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Just got delivery of my AV8805 Tuesday (thanks to Chris at Cleveland Plasma). After some strange issues with my Sony A1E not recognizing the AV8805 through HDMI ARC, I did a factory reset of the Sony and all is now fine. This morning I'm listening to Tidal using the HEOS app. In addition to displaying the album art and other normal information on the Sony, I was pleasantly surprised to to see "FLAC - 44.1 kHz/16 bit" displayed, dispelling any doubt about whether the app actually uses the lossless format that I pay for with Tidal. Oh, and it sounds good, too.

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Sometimes these high end units like this never get a pro review, even though they are the best, it is a "niche" unit.
I am hoping that Kal gets his unit and provides us with his insights.
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No, brands like Meridian and Classé are musically unattainable for any Marantz or Denon. AV8805 is an excellent audio-video processor, but that's the target.
I have no idea how Lyngdorf sounds or other hi-end processors, but Meridian is almost unreachable at all.
I'll take that bet
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Well, no doubt Meridian is a high bar. I've had the top processors from Anthem, Denon, and a couple of more boutique brands over the years, and none have quite scaled the mountain. Who knows when or if Meridian will ever incorporate the object oriented formats, but it seems certain that I won't be able to afford one if they do.

I really like how stable the Marantz platform is; I've never had a HDMI handshake issue or any other glitchy behavior. I could probably tolerate a bit of that, but the rest of the household couldn't. That's one of the great advantages that bigger producers like Marantz, Denon, etc. have. If you sell enough across your various lines, everyone is going to work hard to make sure their stuff plays nice with yours.

Thanks for sharing your take Audiofan1. If anyone else would like to share their upgrade impressions, I'm all ears (or is it eyes?)
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No, brands like Meridian and Classé are musically unattainable for any Marantz or Denon. AV8805 is an excellent audio-video processor, but that's the target.
I have no idea how Lyngdorf sounds or other hi-end processors, but Meridian is almost unreachable at all.
and why exactly is this? Is it because Classe sells 50 processors a year ..or maybe in 2 years? What do you think one of these Marantz processors would cost if they only sold 50?
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Who cares how much he sells one or the other, the answer concerned the sound quality of one processor over another. AV8805 filled the sound gap with Meridian? No
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Who cares how much he sells one or the other, the answer concerned the sound quality of one processor over another. AV8805 filled the sound gap with Meridian? No
And what exactly is this sound gap?
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No, brands like Meridian and Classé are musically unattainable for any Marantz or Denon. AV8805 is an excellent audio-video processor, but that's the target.
I have no idea how Lyngdorf sounds or other hi-end processors, but Meridian is almost unreachable at all.
whats the bet.... a true high end flagship classe processor is re born with the help of the denon & marantz side of things given all three brands now part of sound united....

all that said ... I wouldnt turn up nose so much at denon or marantz things... I remember a comparison i was part off with the classe ssp800 vs the denon avp-a1hd flagship...I was happy i had the denon and person demoing ended up getting the denon. we also compared at the time the 2ch pre in the very beautiful cp700 and classe cd player. that slaughtered both the denon and the classe ssp for 2ch and musicality
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