Originally Posted by aggiebob98
I know this has been hashed a few times...But it sounds like the sonic qualities are identical for the 8802A vs 8805. I don't need HEOS.
I am looking to replace my Classe SSP800 AV with either the 8802A or 8805. Outside of the HEOS, I am just not seeing a reason to pay the extra $$ for the 8805 other than future proofing it with an HDMI2.1 board. Neither have a USB digital input either. I'll pay for quality and sonic/processing upgrades, but I am not seeing it unless someone can shed some light on the subject that I may be missing!!! Thanks for the help everyone!!!
I'm anxious to compare the 8805 to the 8802A. No one that I know of has done an extensive comparison. I'm patiently waiting to conduct a comparison between the two. But unfortunately since late February and for one reason or another, the 8805's are s-l-o-w-l-y
dripping out of the factory.
I have intentions of comparing the two with 4-5 AVSforum members and we will post accordingly. More processors will be added too. Who knows if there is enough of a delay, maybe the new RMC-1 will be added. I have 10 of those on order. But until the 8805's loosen up, my customers orders will come 1st and the comparison is on hold. I don't see a comparison happening for 2 + weeks; it's frustrating.
With that said and like I've posted before, there were a dozen or more signal path enhancements. Like better power supply shielding, relayed out HDAM boards with added precision components, ribbon cables and wires ("antennas") were removed, the DAC board was relayed out (same DAC; better layout), DSP shielding, etc. All in, there were roughly 1900 part changes between the AV8802 and the AV8805.
Truth in advertising: the bulk of the new parts had to be related to the new precision parts on the HDAM's as well as the new volume control board. I'm guessing
the volume control portion had to change the SQ. But I'm guessing and I hate to do that.
With that said, they might still sound IDENTICAL. But management and
engineering said the enhancements factually sound and measure better. Time will tell.
Next up is the XT-32 app. The flexibility factually helps. Of course the 8805 in mid 2019 will become an 8805A and be upgradeable.
IMHO, never underestimate the importance of enhancing the signal path. It's why the preouts of the 7012 Marantz receiver doesn't sound as good as the RCA
preouts of the 7704. It's why companies like MSB DAC's go though great contortions and cost to get lower noise and therefore jitter. It sounds more "analog like" as jitter sounds edgy and or thin. But again, maybe the law of diminishing returns has been reached?
I've had 20+ trades from the 8802A to 8805 already. Some people wanted more overhead speakers, others wanted a warranty, some really wanted the new EQ app while others simply wanted a new toy. The SQ improvements (if it exists) is a bonus.