Originally Posted by surfergr
Did you get a chance to set it up? Any thoughts on Yamaha's YPAO vs Denon's Audyssey XT 32?
Yeah I was able to it set up that Friday night and ran the whole calibration with 8 listening positions (keep in mind that I kept all speakers and components the same, I only basically disconnected the 3050, replaced it with the 4400 on the media center shelf, and connected it to the same speakers and components/players). I watched a few episodes of Lost in Space (new Netlifx remake released this past Friday) through my Xbox One X in HDR10 and Dolby Atmos. I reserved judgement until watching well-known content but it did sound very good (I was actually surprised at how well the Atmos mix is on the series considering it was streaming and not a film). I then sampled a few scenes from the UHD blu-ray of Star Wars: The Last Jedi to make a better comparison (since I’d previously watched it on the 3050). I also watched Dr. Strange on blu-ray yesterday (DTS-HD MA 7.1 upmixed with DTS Neural:X). So I’m basing my current impressions on that content so far. I have to say Audyssey’s MultEQ XT32 does a better job not just calibrating it but simply any time you’re playing something everything just sounds more seamless than it did with Yamaha’s YPAO R.S.C. I think a big part of that was the bass management. If I remember correctly YPAO only includes the sub during calibration as far as distance and levels goes (and of course, setting the crossover), but doesn’t account for latency nor apply anything else that this version of Audyssey does. The calibration process is longer too (more sound signals, more positions, longer time calculating the data) which leads me to believe Audyssey takes more data into account than what YPAO captures and processes. Also, If I moved to either side of the main listening position, the sound was less unbalanced than with the 3050. There was still some unbalance, but it wasn’t as pronounced as it was with the 3050 which means it just expands the sweet spot for the listening position. Another thing, not directly related to Audyssey but still very convenient on this receiver, is that the listening modes engage to the most appropriate one automatically depending on the input signal. So if I was playing Dolby Atmos the receiver would automatically switch to Dolby Atmos mode. If the input was any other Dolby signal (DD 5.1, for example), the receiver would automatically switch to Dolby Surround mode; if the input was a DTS signal that wasn’t DTS-X, it would automatically engage DTS Neural:X. This is a very
convenient upgrade for me because with the 3050 whatever sound mode you had used last, that was what it would use next time you turned it on, not mattering what the input signal was. This was frustrating at times because if I was watching something in Dolby Atmos or DTS-X and I had previously used Dolby Surround to upmix (which I always used for non-3D sound), the receiver would apply Dolby Surround to the Atmos or DTS-X signal, which meant ignoring the metadata and only using the 7.1 bed and then
upmixing that to immersive sound which meant pseudo-3D sound and not the actual Atmos or DTS-X metadata. I’d be halfway through a UHD blu-ray of Harry Potter (DTS-X MA) and I’d be thinking to myself that the track was not very immersive. That would quickly be followed by the realization that it was in D Surround mode, that I had forgotten to switch it to direct mode for DTS-X, and then frustration. So I’m very glad that I don’t have to worry about that with this receiver. Back to actual content, I remember during the bombers sequence at the beginning of the The Last Jedi the bass just sounded more involved and seemed to be working in conjunction with the other speakers better. With Dr. Strange I could almost swear at times the track was a native 3D sound mix with the DTS Neural:X (with the 3050 I would’ve left it in D Surround).
But short answer, I prefer Audyssey so far. It just sounds more seamless and balanced than how it sounded with YPAO. The speakers seem to be in more “harmony” with each other (excuse the poor choice of words) and the sweet spot for the listening position is wider now. And again, even though it’s not directly related to it, the automatic sound-mode switching as dependent on the input signal is a very convenient feature. Also, the GUI is more user-friendly. Not a big deal but I’ve gone through about 5 receivers now (Onkyo, an LG HTIB, two Yamaha’s, and now this one) and the Denon seems the most intuitive one so far.