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biliam1982 04-23-2018 02:28 PM

New Behringer NX Series: 1000/3000/6000 in Black
 
Started getting this in my email last Friday for the NX1000. The NX3000 released today. Nothing official for the NX6000 yet but found a website that seems to have leaked the info early.

Looks like a refresh of the iNuke line with new black covering and very similar power handling capabilities. Don't see an official DSP version yet but I'm assuming one will soon follow and there seems to be product pages up for them already which I've linked. A buddy of mine said they fixed the high end of the frequency spectrum for better full range but not sure where he got that info.

Also, not sure if it was an omission, but don't see 8ohm specs listed on the 1000 or 3000. But I don't see why they wouldn't be compatible for 8ohm loads.


http://www.musictri.be/Categories/Be...d=7259792&jb=8

http://www.musictri.be/Categories/Be...=7259792&jb=8#

https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/PA-...Amplifier/2G7Z

DSP Versions:

https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/PA-...P-Control/2G82

https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/PA-...P-Control/2G87

https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/PA-...P-Control/2G8B

tha_kid 04-23-2018 04:35 PM

Interesting, I like the all black look. It would be great If they did fix the high frequency issue too. I wonder if the fan still blows back to front.

Nalleh 04-23-2018 05:06 PM

Yup, i discovered this too, as the shop here in Norway have all the inuke series listed as discontinued. Got the same info as you did, when i contacted them about it.

zeus33 04-23-2018 05:07 PM

New Black iNukes
 
FYI: I posted this in the DIY forum where it belongs for the DIY crowd that use these the most. A mod moved it and merged it with this thread. I didn't repeat what this member already posted.



It looks like Behringer finally listened and made the iNukes black and much nicer looking.

3000: http://www.musictri.be/Categories/Be...NX3000/p/P0CHS

https://media.musictri.be/media/PLM/...S_Right_L.png?




6000 w/DSP: https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/PA-...P-Control/2G8B

https://d1aeri3ty3izns.cloudfront.ne...00/preview.jpg

jonlaw16 04-23-2018 05:11 PM

Wow those look so much better. I wonder if they have done anything with the fans to make them less obnoxious.

gixerking 04-23-2018 05:21 PM

Definitely a nicer look to go along with the black.

eng-399 04-23-2018 05:28 PM

Those look great with the new face lift.

biliam1982 04-23-2018 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tha_kid (Post 56083704)
Interesting, I like the all black look. It would be great If they did fix the high frequency issue too. I wonder if the fan still blows back to front.

It does look like a nice modern refreshed look. Akin to what the Crown XLS 02 series did.

A bunch of us from AVS who live in the North/Central Floirda region have a private Groupme thread where we've been speculating on the changes since we all are heavy into DIY and use iNukes for our Subs.

One guy, @Mattcc22 , said this about why he think they fixed the High End Roll off.

Quote:

The speaker impedence up high is what caused highs to roll off differently with changing load. Sounds like they fixed that flaw and are touting it as a new feature
He was basing that off the new feature called "SmartSense Loudspeaker Impedance compensation".

We were also wondering if they made any changes to the fan speeds and loudness but I don't really see anything mentioned about that. Hopefully they did. But all I see is this...

Quote:

'Back-to-front' ventilation system prevents thermal buildup
So that answers your question... maybe. Because it seems they did a lot of copy and pasting from the previous model's info as noted below in this change.




Quote:

Can be set up, controlled, and monitored via the front panel USB connector
Clearly, if you look at the pictures, they moved the USB port to the rear. It is a pro amp, so they likely were listening to the techs in the field on this one I think.

But it could be a real PITA for anyone who has a large rack unit and would need to run multiple wires that stick out and are labeled.

VisionxOrb 04-23-2018 05:43 PM

WOW that looks top notch.

Jk7.2 04-23-2018 05:45 PM

Oh come on! Now I need 8 new inukes? Inuke just lowered the value of used inukes like I have :(

N8DOGG 04-23-2018 05:48 PM

Wow, they look so much better!

Drichards650 04-23-2018 05:53 PM

And i just ordered the orignal model like 2 weeks ago. 😡😡

noah katz 04-23-2018 06:01 PM

> 'Back-to-front' ventilation system prevents thermal buildup



The previous inukes are back-to-front, so nothing new there

18Hurts 04-23-2018 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 56084050)
Oh come on! Now I need 8 new inukes? Inuke just lowered the value of used inukes like I have :(

I was curious,

The orange/silver iNuke NU6000 is claimed to weigh under 12 pounds--the blackberry NX6000 is claimed to weigh under 13.2 pounds for at least a 1.2 pound increase. I hope that extra pound or so includes real heatsinks for better cooling and they now have a better fan system that is quiet--don't think black paint weighs that much!

Fixed the impedance problem with the high frequencies, nice...

Considering the amps weigh 10% more and cost around that MSRP anyway--there might be more to them than just black paint and good looks. Maybe...

Looking forward to June when they ship and the concept becomes clearer. My buddy has an iNuke and it works fine--just the orange lights and silver is rather garish. Don't forget the name change--NX sounds better to me than iNuke. Now if the things have larger heatsinks and can run quietly--count me in!

Maybe I can pick up the old iNukes for a new (used) garage amp--bid starts at 50 bucks. ;)

Hoodcom 04-23-2018 06:16 PM

Wow I'm liking how those look as well!

I'd love to see a 4-channel version, at least I hope they come out with one. :D

BassThatHz 04-23-2018 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jk7.2 (Post 56084050)
Oh come on! Now I need 8 new inukes? Inuke just lowered the value of used inukes like I have :(

Yeah, but a prostitute doesn't ask for a ring and new shoes every week. Think of all the money saved! :p

At least they don't look like a pig with lipstick anymore... ;)

Jk7.2 04-23-2018 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BassThatHz (Post 56084268)
Yeah, but a prostitute doesn't ask for a ring and new shoes every week. Think of all the money saved! :p



At least they don't look like a pig with lipstick anymore... ;)



Hahahaha

biliam1982 04-23-2018 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoodcom (Post 56084174)
Wow I'm liking how those look as well!

I'd love to see a 4-channel version, at least I hope they come out with one. :D

Looks like I missed one. So your wish may be coming true...


https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/PA-...Amplifier/2G8K

Samps 04-23-2018 07:28 PM

The only thing missing for the HT crowd is an RCA input. Hopefully they work as well as the old ones.

DSP below 20hz would also be nice.

VisionxOrb 04-23-2018 07:34 PM

soooooooo whos gonna be the first one to send it to @notnyt for testing????

notnyt 04-23-2018 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VisionxOrb (Post 56084550)
soooooooo whos gonna be the first one to send it to @notnyt for testing????

They look like reskinned inukes, though I'll test one if someone wants to handle shipping.

0100010 04-23-2018 09:08 PM

This is awesome. Was just looking at the 'blackberry' inuke thread earlier today in plans to paint my own black inuke.

Hoodcom 04-23-2018 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biliam1982 (Post 56084494)
Looks like I missed one. So your wish may be coming true...


https://www.gear4music.com/us/en/PA-...Amplifier/2G8K

Hey wishing actually works here! (Think that'd work for a DSP 4-channel model?) :D :p

In seriousness though, I'm quite happy to see that. I can picture myself wanting to color match all my amps now. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by notnyt (Post 56084564)
They look like reskinned inukes, though I'll test one if someone wants to handle shipping.

I've been wanting to buy another iNuke to keep on hand, so if I do, I know who it needs to go to first. :cool:

notnyt 04-23-2018 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoodcom (Post 56085014)
Hey wishing actually works here! (Think that'd work for a DSP 4-channel model?) :D :p

I've been wanting to buy another iNuke to keep on hand, so if I do, I know who it needs to go to first. :cool:

Good luck re: dsp 4 chan model. I don't think their dsp can handle that. It looks like the same screen in these so the dsp controls have probably been recycled. I don't think we're going to see much different from the inukes, but here's hoping.

There's lots they can improve over the inukes, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. at least they're black :/

Nalleh 04-23-2018 10:21 PM

Looks like they will cost ~ $50 more than current models.

filtor1 04-24-2018 09:13 AM

I am hoping that is just an MSRP. Berry has the ability to do all of the upgrades for pennies. I am hopeful that these will be an improved iNuke, but only time will tell. Someone here with deeper pockets than me will buy and test it for us.

I really dig the aesthetics over the iNuke for sure.

0100010 04-25-2018 10:32 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Extracted the pages with the specs and attached.


PDF Link : http://media.music-group.com/media/P...IES_QSG_WW.pdf

moosifee 04-27-2018 04:54 PM

Excited about this. If the NX3000 is just an iNuke3000 in a better looking case, that's good enough for me -- soon I won't need the DSP feature anyway, and would happily sell my iNuke to replace it with one of these.

bimmaguy 04-28-2018 11:16 AM

A contrarians speculative view of the new redesign:

The good:
It's black, finally!

It will likely be very slightly quieter in stock form

*Impedence adjusting for those using these for full range operation vs just subs.

The bad:
Looking through the PDF, they have not updated or changed a single thing on the inside* (or even the outside, with the exception of cosmetic differences). You are still buying the same amp and DSP solution as before with zero updates*. To me this means no adjustment under 20 hz, which was a popular request around here. Even upping the PEQ count from 8 to 10 would have been a great update, but nada.

The fans will still be the same loud fans, with the same "variable speed control" as before, which is programmed with the same logic as before: -start cold at the loudness of a lawnmower, then if the unit gets hot, boost up speed to jet engine level. You might not be able to hear the fan quite as well as before because they closed up a large area of the front panel. The small gaps for ventilation on either side of the display have small holes. This means it will be hard to clean and will always look dusty. This unfortunately means very much reduced air flow as well. My guess is that there are no aerodynamic guides inside the chassis to guide airflow, and no added heatsinks for sure, as those would surely add a lot to the production cost. So basically it will likely be a slightly less noisy but vastly less capable cooling system. The conclusion I can draw from that is that it will no longer be a viable solution to fan-swap, as you'll just quickly cook your components. They seem to have fitted larger rubber feet on the bottom to compensate, as these amps have always been heat sinked to the bottom. Maybe the forum can start a crowdfund for a large finned heatsink made of powder coated aluminium that would screw right on to the bottom in place of the feet?

They did away with the handles. The handles weren't there so that you could do bench presses with that 12-pound monster. They were there so that if something touches the amp (anything from an overly enthusiastic groupie, to a labrador in the livingroom, or moving furniture when you're vacuuming), it doesn't touch any buttons or worse, snap off your knob!:eek: The new interface is much nicer looking for us home theater folks, but looks much more fragile. The black coating (probably cheap paint on the metal panels) will certainly scratch quickly and easily. YMMV, but to me these don't look anything like the go-anywhere, do anything "beat on 'em who cares" workhorses they replace. I really wonder how popular these will be in the professional market.

The LEDs are cooler-looking, but much less useful. The previous amps had LEDs indicating power levels of -24 dB, -12, -6, clip/protect. The new one has indicators for -40db, -6, -3, protect/clip.

They reduced the 4 ohm power claim from 3100W to 3000W. Is this Behringer being slightly more honest or did they really reduce power output?

One step forward, two steps back.

rvsixer 04-28-2018 02:45 PM

Don't let all those guesses get y'all down :).

I'm going to wait to judge until the actual hardware starts arriving.


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