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Is there anyone following this thread who owns both a Denon X6500 and a Panasonic UB420/820/9000 UHD player who also subscribes to Netflix (with 4K/UHD)? If so, could you verify whether or not you're receiving Dolby Atmos from the UHD player's Netflix app for appropriate titles (such as "The Highwaymen")? Thanks!

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Is there anyone following this thread who owns both a Denon X6500 and a Panasonic UB420/820/9000 UHD player who also subscribes to Netflix (with 4K/UHD)? If so, could you verify whether or not you're receiving Dolby Atmos from the UHD player's Netflix app for appropriate titles (such as "The Highwaymen")? Thanks!

Whether you can receive Dolby Atmos audio from Netflix depends on the device you are using to initiate the stream (i.e., either the display or the Blu-ray player or other media streamer). According to the current Netflix device list, Panasonic BDP's are not supported.


Which devices support Dolby Atmos audio with Netflix?

The following devices support Dolby Atmos with Netflix. For exact device models with Dolby Atmos available, please visit the device manufacturer's website.
  • Apple TV 4K (requires tvOS 12 or later)
  • LG OLED TVs (2017 or newer models)
  • Panasonic TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Pixela 4K Smart Tuner
  • Sharp TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Sony BRAVIA Android TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Toshiba TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Vizio TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Windows 10 computer or tablet (requires Windows 10 RS3 Build 16299 or later)
  • Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X
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Probably the Auto OFF feature of the subwoofer kicks in.
At what level the volume knob on the subwoofer is set?
After calibration, what is the level shown in the receiver setup for the subwoofer output?
The volume on the subwoofer is set at just 1/3 from that subwoofer matching sequence right before audyseey calibration goes speaker to speaker. The level after calibration is -3.5 db. Once it goes into standby / red light on the subwoofer comes on then it had been nothing would wake it up except resetting the Denon. For example going into the level settings under manual won't produce any sound from the subwoofer like it does from the rest of the speakers.

However... I hooked up an Xbox One X earlier and just now witnessed the subwoofer coming back from deep hibernation when playing a show with dolby atmos on the Xbox netflix app. Previously none of the other inputs would seem to wake it up but it's working right now - knock on wood 3 times...
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After running Audyssey, you want the final Subwoofer trim set close to 0dB such that when the sub is set to AUTO mode, it will more reliably kick on and stay on. If it's set close to or at -12dB, you'll want to reduce the gain on the sub (ie. if currently set to 12 o'clock, then reset to about 9 o'clock, or if set at 9 o'clock then lower to 7 o'clock) and run Audyssey again. If after running Audyssey it is set to about -6dB and you want a little more oomph!, then simply go into Manual Setup - Test Tones - Subwoofer (or use the Subwoofer Level Adjust) and reset it closer to 0dB, say about -2dB/-1dB/0dB.
Ah, interesting. Right now its at 1/3 volume on the subwoofer for -3.5 db level adjustment from Audyssey. I'll try adjusting those if it starts going back into deep sleep again.

Do you think there is any chance those other bass related settings under the Audio / Audyssey menu are contributing to the problem? Options like Dynamic EQ, Dynamic Volume and Audyssey LFC? The latter two are currently off and right now its miraculously working.
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Whether you can receive Dolby Atmos audio from Netflix depends on the device you are using to initiate the stream (i.e., either the display or the Blu-ray player or other media streamer). According to the current Netflix device list, Panasonic BDP's are not supported.


Which devices support Dolby Atmos audio with Netflix?

The following devices support Dolby Atmos with Netflix. For exact device models with Dolby Atmos available, please visit the device manufacturer's website.
  • Apple TV 4K (requires tvOS 12 or later)
  • LG OLED TVs (2017 or newer models)
  • Panasonic TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Pixela 4K Smart Tuner
  • Sharp TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Sony BRAVIA Android TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Toshiba TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Vizio TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Windows 10 computer or tablet (requires Windows 10 RS3 Build 16299 or later)
  • Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X
I'm just unable to understand why people post responses to my questions without understanding that I'm seeking advice from a specific group of individuals: Netflix subscribing owners of BOTH the UB820 and the Denon AVR X series. It's totally irrelevant as to what compatible equipment is currently being listed, as I'm aware of multiple individuals who have shown that they receive Dolby Atmos in the Netflix app of the UB820. These include owners of the X6300 & X6800. I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade to the Denon X6400/6500 from my Yamaha RX-A3050 (which only receives Netflix in DD 5.1 from the UB820, while it does receive Netflix Atmos from my ATV4K). I'll keep hoping that some owners of the device configuration chime in here over the next few days.

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Whether you can receive Dolby Atmos audio from Netflix depends on the device you are using to initiate the stream (i.e., either the display or the Blu-ray player or other media streamer). According to the current Netflix device list, Panasonic BDP's are not supported.


Which devices support Dolby Atmos audio with Netflix?

The following devices support Dolby Atmos with Netflix. For exact device models with Dolby Atmos available, please visit the device manufacturer's website.
  • Apple TV 4K (requires tvOS 12 or later)
  • LG OLED TVs (2017 or newer models)
  • Panasonic TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Pixela 4K Smart Tuner
  • Sharp TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Sony BRAVIA Android TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Toshiba TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Vizio TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Windows 10 computer or tablet (requires Windows 10 RS3 Build 16299 or later)
  • Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X
I'm just unable to understand why people post responses to my questions without understanding that I'm seeking advice from a specific group of individuals: Netflix subscribing owners of BOTH the UB820 and the Denon AVR X series. It's totally irrelevant as to what compatible equipment is currently being listed, as I'm aware of multiple individuals who have shown that they receive Dolby Atmos in the Netflix app of the UB820. These include owners of the X6300 & X6800. I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade to the Denon X6400/6500 from my Yamaha RX-A3050 (which only receives Netflix in DD 5.1 from the UB820, while it does receive Netflix Atmos from my ATV4K). I'll keep hoping that some owners of the device configuration chime in here over the next few days.
Your question belongs in the UB820 thread and not here as all the recievers you mentioned including your own Yamaha supports Atmos. Not sure why you are asking here in the first place bc the issue/device in your chain that doesnt do atmos is the 820 and not your receiver bc atv gives you atmos with it. The x6400 and x6500 will also give you atmos as long as they are capable along with your bd player. Sounds like your 820 isnt capable so end of story unless someone in that thread tells you otherwise.

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Your question belongs in the UB820 thread and not here as all the recievers you mentioned including your own Yamaha supports Atmos. Not sure why you are asking here in the first place bc the issue/device in your chain that doesnt do atmos is the 820 and not your receiver bc atv gives you atmos with it. The x6400 and x6500 will also give you atmos as long as they are capable along with your bd player. Sounds like your 820 isnt capable so end of story unless someone in that thread tells you otherwise.
Why are you bothering to enter this dialogue? Do you have the 2 devices in question? If you do have a UB820 and are an owner of a X6400/6500/6800 (the purpose of this thread), then you can provide me with your expertise; if not, then you're not providing real world evidence. This isn't theoretical; either Netflix provides Atmos with the Denon AVR or it doesn't, irrespective of what devices "officially" are listed. I'm looking for someone who has a UB820 and an X6400/6500/6800 to tell me they don't get Atmos, since I'm aware that at least one owner of an X6800 and an X6300 have confirmed that they DO. The ATV4K (with Atmos) isn't as desirable a Netflix streamer with my JVC projector as the UB820 would be, because of its ability to tone map. I'm seeking to use Netflix Atmos audio PLUS the UB820's HDR OPtimizer and will purchase a Denon X series AVR if that capability exists for all X series owners who could provide that information.

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Someone please help me understand ARC

Currently, all my sources are connected via HDMI to my AVR-S640H. Another HDMI cable goes from the Denon to my ARC capable TV, Vizio E-70-C3. I mostly watch my cable TV source and use the TV speakers to listen, without turning the Denon on. When i use the DVD player or watch a movie through Apple TV, I turn the Denon on for surround sound. When I watch other cable TV content (think HBO Game of Thrones), I turn the Denon on for surround sound.

When I'm using the TV without the Denon, I use my TV remote to control the TV. When I want surround, I use the TV remote to control the TV and use the Denon remote to control the sound.

I don't want to power up the Denon to watch simple cable TV.

I don't mind the above set-up. Using the 2 remotes is not a hassle.

1. Is the ARC function something I'm already using but don't know it?
2. If I'm not, would using ARC benefit me?
3. If it would, how would it?
4. Would it require changing any of my current preferences? (like not having to have the Denon on for simple cable TV watching).

Sorry, a few more questions

If I connect my sources to the TV instead of the Denon (perhaps a better picture since it omits another set of circuits), would I need to set up ARC or could I use an optical cable from the TV to the Denon to get surround? Would the surround source material pass through the TV through the optical cable, or through ARC for that matter?

Again, my goal is to not have the Denon on to watch simple cable TV shows using the TV speakers, nor have to turn the Denon on to switch sources. (I have a Hi-Res audio player that obviously won't be connected to the TV). I currently can switch sources without turning the Denon on.

Thanks to anyone brave enough to tackle this!
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Biamping or bridging Fronts

First post to this forum so I apologize if this is posted in the wrong place or has been covered before. I recently purchased the Denon X4500H and it's driving my array of Polk RTi series speakers. I have Rti12's for the fronts and i've always wanted to biamp them as i don't feel that i get their full potential with the 125 watts that the receiver is sending it. I've looked at a Marantz MM7025 to supplement the Denon but i'm not sure if this is the route to go. The Marantz is only putting out 15 watts more on it's two channels than the Denon. What's the best bang for my buck to get the most out of these massive RTi12's?
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I'm just unable to understand why people post responses to my questions without understanding that I'm seeking advice from a specific group of individuals: Netflix subscribing owners of BOTH the UB820 and the Denon AVR X series. It's totally irrelevant as to what compatible equipment is currently being listed, as I'm aware of multiple individuals who have shown that they receive Dolby Atmos in the Netflix app of the UB820. These include owners of the X6300 & X6800. I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade to the Denon X6400/6500 from my Yamaha RX-A3050 (which only receives Netflix in DD 5.1 from the UB820, while it does receive Netflix Atmos from my ATV4K). I'll keep hoping that some owners of the device configuration chime in here over the next few days.

What you are failing to grasp, as I have already stated and b0rnarian has emphasized above, is that the crux of your issue is whether the app on the device from which you are streaming Netflix supports Dolby Atmos. Netflix authors that app and has listed those devices on which Atmos is supported; if that list is not up to date, then your hearsay evidence regarding the UB820 may be accurate.

However, ALL the models of the Denon AVR-X series for at least the last three years include a Dolby Atmos decoder, so your question is not relevant to this thread.

Oh, and you are most welcome for the unsolicited feedback!

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It is normal for Marantz and Denon receivers to make the clicking sound if you has it setup in ECO mode and pass over the -30dB volume mark.
Hmm odd because I have Eco mode off and this even occurs at no volume or when it's muted.

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What you are failing to grasp, as I have already stated and b0rnarian has emphasized above, is that the crux of your issue is whether the app on the device from which you are streaming Netflix supports Dolby Atmos. Netflix authors that app and has listed those devices on which Atmos is supported; if that list is not up to date, then your hearsay evidence regarding the UB820 may be accurate.

However, ALL the models of the Denon AVR-X series for at least the last three years include a Dolby Atmos decoder, so your question is not relevant to this thread.

Oh, and you are most welcome for the unsolicited feedback!
I'm still hoping to get responses from additional owners with Netflix UHD subscriptions who are streaming Netflix from the Panasonic UB820 via the Denon 6400/6500/8500 AVRs. I'm certain that no one would want to unnecessarily spend thousands of dollars on a new AVR only to find out that one's expectations can't be met. Those few responses that I've obtained would only be 'hearsay' if you're prepared to discount their reported Netflix Atmos experiences as falsely made up. I guess that the lack of helpful responses on this thread indicates that no one following here owns a UB820 or has not taken the opportunity to try the Netflix app on that device.

Anyone else is merely needlessly postulating about what is or isn't possible based on (out of date?) published listings. And, regarding your unsolicited feedback, you haven't added a single drop of new information to this thread, but I'm sure that you're pleased to have added yet another post............
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First post to this forum so I apologize if this is posted in the wrong place or has been covered before. I recently purchased the Denon X4500H and it's driving my array of Polk RTi series speakers. I have Rti12's for the fronts and i've always wanted to biamp them as i don't feel that i get their full potential with the 125 watts that the receiver is sending it. I've looked at a Marantz MM7025 to supplement the Denon but i'm not sure if this is the route to go. The Marantz is only putting out 15 watts more on it's two channels than the Denon. What's the best bang for my buck to get the most out of these massive RTi12's?

Bi-amping will not serve the purpose since both feeds will come from the same shared power supply. Furthermore, depending on how many speakers your X4500H is currently driving, the actual power per channel is going to be much lower than the rated output of 125W.

Speaking as a fellow RTi speaker owner, what you are looking for is a separate power amplifier that can supply a dedicated 200 to 300 watts per channel, at a minimum. The 2-channel MM7025 is rated at 140W/pc, and thus will not represent the best bang for the buck IMO unless you can get a used one at a substantial discount from its $800 MSRP.

If you are looking for a low-cost barebones solution, professional series amps are often recommended, such as the Crown XLi1500 (330W/pc at 8Ω). But there are many choices and many pros and cons, so your best bet would probably be to look for recommendations either in an amp-related thread or in the Polk Audio thread.
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I'm still hoping to get responses from additional owners with Netflix UHD subscriptions who are streaming Netflix from the Panasonic UB820 via the Denon 6400/6500/8500 AVRs. I'm certain that no one would want to unnecessarily spend thousands of dollars on a new AVR only to find out that one's expectations can't be met. Those few responses that I've obtained would only be 'hearsay' if you're prepared to discount their reported Netflix Atmos experiences as falsely made up. I guess that the lack of helpful responses on this thread indicates that no one following here owns a UB820 or has not taken the opportunity to try the Netflix app on that device.

Anyone else is merely needlessly postulating about what is or isn't possible based on (out of date?) published listings. And, regarding your unsolicited feedback, you haven't added a single drop of new information to this thread, but I'm sure that you're pleased to have added yet another post............

I myself have a Netflix UHD streaming subscription and therefore speak with some knowledge regarding the app's performance.

But given your negative attitude toward those of us here who have tried to assist you, I will now bow out of the discussion except to recommend to monitors that it be directed to a more appropriate thread.

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Why are you bothering to enter this dialogue? Do you have the 2 devices in question? If you do have a UB820 and are an owner of a X6400/6500/6800 (the purpose of this thread), then you can provide me with your expertise; if not, then you're not providing real world evidence. This isn't theoretical; either Netflix provides Atmos with the Denon AVR or it doesn't, irrespective of what devices "officially" are listed. I'm looking for someone who has a UB820 and an X6400/6500/6800 to tell me they don't get Atmos, since I'm aware that at least one owner of an X6800 and an X6300 have confirmed that they DO. The ATV4K (with Atmos) isn't as desirable a Netflix streamer with my JVC projector as the UB820 would be, because of its ability to tone map. I'm seeking to use Netflix Atmos audio PLUS the UB820's HDR OPtimizer and will purchase a Denon X series AVR if that capability exists for all X series owners who could provide that information.
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I have a 2400H - set up with a static IP. If I unplug the unit then plug it back in, I can use the denon app/heos app to control the unit. I can also ping the unit from my pc on my the lan. After about a day, the unit no longer communicates on the lan. The unit can still access the internet - if I turn on the tv and use the remote and navigate to internet music etc, I can still pull and play from the wan, but I can not access the unit via the app or ping the unit on my pc - I get host unreachable, even though the IP shows ac active in my router settings, and the ip shows up in a arp-a pull from command prompt.

Any suggestions as to settings I can change that keep the denon from blocking lan connections?

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I have a 2400H - set up with a static IP. If I unplug the unit then plug it back in, I can use the denon app/heos app to control the unit. I can also ping the unit from my pc on my the lan. After about a day, the unit no longer communicates on the lan. The unit can still access the internet - if I turn on the tv and use the remote and navigate to internet music etc, I can still pull and play from the wan, but I can not access the unit via the app or ping the unit on my pc - I get host unreachable, even though the IP shows ac active in my router settings, and the ip shows up in a arp-a pull from command prompt.

Any suggestions as to settings I can change that keep the denon from blocking lan connections?

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Oops! Wrong thread. The X2400H is discussed in the 2017 Denon AVR Owner's thread --> https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...sts-1-8-a.html
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Does Cable Quality Matter?

I've recently purchased the X4500H and really want to get the most out of it. I've also purchased an amp to drive the front towers and was wondering if the quality of RCA cables on the pre-outs make a difference? Just wondering if it's worth the extra money for a good set. I would think the most important thing would just be to get shielded cables to avoid interference.

While we're on the subject, is HDMI in the same boat? I see these cables for > $100 at the white-box stores and wonder if it's REALLY any better than the $20 cable I got off Amazon. Thoughts?
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I've recently purchased the X4500H and really want to get the most out of it. I've also purchased an amp to drive the front towers and was wondering if the quality of RCA cables on the pre-outs make a difference? Just wondering if it's worth the extra money for a good set. I would think the most important thing would just be to get shielded cables to avoid interference.

While we're on the subject, is HDMI in the same boat? I see these cables for > $100 at the white-box stores and wonder if it's REALLY any better than the $20 cable I got off Amazon. Thoughts?
I believe these two options are the best value to performance ratio I've found in cables and have been using them for many years without incident: a good read to help you understand as well....good luck.

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I've recently purchased the X4500H and really want to get the most out of it. I've also purchased an amp to drive the front towers and was wondering if the quality of RCA cables on the pre-outs make a difference? Just wondering if it's worth the extra money for a good set. I would think the most important thing would just be to get shielded cables to avoid interference.

While we're on the subject, is HDMI in the same boat? I see these cables for > $100 at the white-box stores and wonder if it's REALLY any better than the $20 cable I got off Amazon. Thoughts?
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I believe these two options are the best value to performance ratio I've found in cables and have been using them for many years without incident: a good read to help you understand as well....good luck.

https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/audio/index.htm

https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store...hdmi-cable.htm
I recently bought an x4500H as well and for a while, the Roku kept having handshake issues and the screen kept blanking out. So I threw every single HDMI I had at it and after 4-5 different cables I ended up trying the one really long BJC cable I had connected to another device and boom, problem solved. So I bought a smaller 3 Foot BJC Hdmi cable and since then the roku has been flawless. So Im not sure if it was all those HDMI cables I had that work for everything else or the x4500h with new connectors that its a bit finicky but the BJC cables are the ones that work perfectly with it so for me they are the only choice for everything!
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All of a sudden my iphone, ipad and MBP won't connect to the 3500h for airplay. The only message I get on the devices is that Unable to connect to "Denon AVR-X3500H".

I know that networking is correctly setup on the AVR as I can connect to it using the AVR app on the iphone.

Any ideas? I've enabled static lease via the router as well and ensure that the IP displayed on the denon information is the same as the static lease I've setup.

Edit: Weird. Did all the above steps again and it seems to work now. /shrug
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All of a sudden my iphone, ipad and MBP won't connect to the 3500h for airplay. The only message I get on the devices is that Unable to connect to "Denon AVR-X3500H".

I know that networking is correctly setup on the AVR as I can connect to it using the AVR app on the iphone.

Any ideas? I've enabled static lease via the router as well and ensure that the IP displayed on the denon information is the same as the static lease I've setup.

Edit: Weird. Did all the above steps again and it seems to work now. /shrug
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The manuals for "S" line 2019 US models have been published and it seems that the big change is HDMI-eARC added:

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Use an HDMI cable to connect a TV that is compatible with the ARC / eARC function to this unit.
Set “HDMI Control” to “On” or “ARC” to “On” when using a TV that supports the ARC function. (v p. 160)
Using an eARC function-compatible television enables audio playback from the speaker connected to this unit, regardless of “HDMI Control” and “ARC”
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Another change is that the 2019 models support the HDCP 2.3 version (rear panel markings).
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The manuals for "S" line 2019 US models have been published and it seems that the big change is HDMI-eARC added:



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Another change is that the 2019 models support the HDCP 2.3 version (rear panel markings).

The most interesting tidbit there to me is that apparently eARC will function automatically as long as the TV supports it without the need to enable any CEC-related features in the AVR. IDK whether that's going to be standard for eARC or just Denon's methodology, but it stikes me as a very user-friendly implementation.
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The most interesting tidbit there to me is that apparently eARC will function automatically as long as the TV supports it without the need to enable any CEC-related features in the AVR. IDK whether that's going to be standard for eARC or just Denon's methodology, but it stikes me as a very user-friendly implementation.
It is not Denon related, it is a feature of HDMI-eARC, the eARC data channel is used for discovery and Audio-EDID, leaving the classic HDMI-CEC and HDMI-ARC features in the back. This should decrease A LOT of the problems that are present on the classic HDMI-ARC and HDMI-CEC (because the CEC bus is also used for device discovery and EDID, regardless of it's ON/OFF status in the setup menu - this hidden usage of CEC is a main source of problems that us users have with devices of different brands that are interconnected).

An HDMI-eARC device will fallback to the classic HDMI-CEC and HDMI-ARC features only if eARC fails.

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It is normal for Marantz and Denon receivers to make the clicking sound if you has it setup in ECO mode and pass over the -30dB volume mark.
I figured this out.

I got a new chest freezer in the same area of my AVR and it makes a very similar clicking sound. No issue!

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While we're on the subject, is HDMI in the same boat? I see these cables for > $100 at the white-box stores and wonder if it's REALLY any better than the $20 cable I got off Amazon. Thoughts?
On paper they are probably better, to your eyes I bet you notice no difference. Just make sure they have the badge below......
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It is normal for Marantz and Denon receivers to make the clicking sound if you has it setup in ECO mode and pass over the -30dB volume mark.
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Yes, normal and not "odd" at all. The "clicking" is nothing more than the internal relays. The clicking is not out of the norm. HOWEVER, the clicking every 20 minutes because you have the volume up is not normal and should be looked at.

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Yes, normal and not "odd" at all. The "clicking" is nothing more than the internal relays. The clicking is not out of the norm. HOWEVER, the clicking every 20 minutes because you have the volume up is not normal and should be looked at.
The clicking can also occurs when switching between listening modes. For instance, with my Marantz SR6013 setup as 5.1.4 with Main Zone as 5.1, I get the clicking sound every time the AVR switch from DD 5.1 to Stereo and Stereo goes up-mixed to DD + Surround because the ATMOS layer kicks in and the receiver turns ON those amps channels. To avoid the clicking, I did setup the main zone as 7.1 with Rear Surrounds as NONE and 4 x ATMOS speakers. Now when switching modes or even when running the test tone with my 5.1.4 speaker layout, there is no clicking sound anymore as the 9 amps are always ON. Same thing I did with my Denon X6500H and there is no clicking sound. The Denon X6500H is setup as 7.1.4.

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It is not Denon related, it is a feature of HDMI-eARC
Thank you for that helpful clarification.

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This should decrease A LOT of the problems that are present on the classic HDMI-ARC and HDMI-CEC.
And that is precisely why I singled out this bit of information as especially interesting.
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