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Hi Everyone,

What a great forum, lots of info to be found, however haven't found anything on this issue I'm having.

When using the Receiver watching regular TV - Sound and Volume is great. When watching a Blu-Ray or DVD sound and volume is great.

When using the smart TV Apps, the volume is lower, I have to turn it up quite a bit and when I do, the sound quality isn't there, it sounds muted or muffled. I am using the following apps on the TV - Netflix, Spotify and Vudu.

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The AVR can only play what it is receiving (ie. garbage in --> garbage out). You may want to consider using another source for those apps (eg. Blu Ray player or game box).

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Thanks for the reply and info.

I'm not exactly sure how to do that.
If raising the master volume for the "TV Audio" source didn't resolve the issue, then raising the SOURCE LEVEL setting won't either.

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I'm not exactly sure how to do that.
Pretty sure it's "Setup - Inputs - Source Level"

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The AVR can only play what it is receiving (ie. garbage in --> garbage out). You may want to consider using another source for those apps (eg. Blu Ray player or game box).
Ah ha, I see.

I have a Samsung Blu-Ray player, will have to see what apps are available on it.

The wife is going to love this one... having to use a 3rd device to watch Netflix... lol

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Ah ha, I see.

I have a Samsung Blu-Ray player, will have to see what apps are available on it.

The wife is going to love this one... having to use a 3rd device to watch Netflix... lol
Also, I may have left out some important info.

I only noticed the difference in the sound over the past couple of months.

Last year, using the Spotify App, the sound was great and very loud.

I don't know what changed.



One other thing - I'm currently connected to everything via HDMI. Would going Optical make any difference ?

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Ah ha, I see.

I have a Samsung Blu-Ray player, will have to see what apps are available on it.

The wife is going to love this one... having to use a 3rd device to watch Netflix... lol
Have you run Audyssey per the Audyssey FAQ? ---> https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...d-part-ii.html
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Pretty sure it's "Setup - Inputs - Source Level"
This may be a silly question, but...

Do I need to have the "source" in use when changing the source level?

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This may be a silly question, but...

Do I need to have the "source" in use when changing the source level?
jairman, you just have to be on the source itself as if you need this for the exact input your trying to raise .
so let's say your tv /cable sounds too low then while watching a tv show go into settings menu and source and raise to your liking ,i believe you need to do this to any input and each source is seperate which means raising one dosen't affect the rest

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Anyone who may have used an HDMI audio extractor, could you provide some input?

1. Will this change the audio setting of Zone 1 in Denon 3500h? The reason I am asking is that the extracted audio will be two channel analog out. Will that force Zone 1 audio setting on the AVR (x3500h) to be 2 Chanel audio as well?

2. If I place the HDMI audio extractor on zone 2, would I be able to extract two channel analog audio without changing the zone 1 audio setting in the AVR? Zone two audio amplifier will be used for 7.2 configuration. Since I am not planning to have zone 2 TV, I am hoping that it will allow me to control this volume using Denon remote. True?

Any other idea to drive a separate amplifier for another area from 3500h without using zone 2 output?

Thanks

What exactly is the use case you want this for? Do you want the audio as analog, digital, stereo, multi-channel, to headphone transmitters, etc?



(Also, do not buy the one you linked. See reasons below)



The typical use of an audio extractor is to "tap" the HDMI path for the audio portion to do one of

(1) feed analog stereo out to headphones or headphones transmitter if the receiver does not offer another way of doing this
(2) To feed the audio as a digital/analog signal to active speakers or another integrated amp to provide the same sound as what is going through the original HDMI.


As such, if the audio extractor is correctly designed the original source and sink have no idea of the "tap" in the path. To be able to do this completely transparently, you need an audio extractor that can pass through the full [email protected] hz formats, have at least 18GB bandwidth and should be speaking the same HDMI 2.x and HDCP 2.x versions as the receiver/tv. They also pass through the EDID from the TV back to receiver and allow ARC so that the HDMI path is truly transparent as far as receiver and TV are concerned.



Monoprice (amongst others) sell such units around the $40-$50 price range. Look up the reviews to make sure they don't have any quirks that may not work for your use case.


Typically these provide a stereo analog and a TOSLINK optical jacks for audio out. They can take multiple channel sound in the original path and send it out as multi-channel PCM SPDIF. But because of the limitations of the latter, it can only do up to 5.1. There are other units which also provide a second HDMI extraction but downgraded to 1.4 (1080p and 5.1 audio max) if you want both audio and video. The latter does not affect/downgrade the original path allowing content with DRM to be played through the original path.



What you want to do with that audio is entirely up to you. The receiver and TV have no awareness of this extractor and behave as if it did not exist which means no control whatsoever from the receiver or the TV on the extracted audio - no volume control, etc. So, to answer your specific question, a correctly chosen audio extractor will not affect anything in the receiver or the TV or the original viewing and has nothing to do with any zones.


You can also attach it to Zone 2 HDMI (you should avoid attaching them to the second monitor HDMI for various reasons). But this can affect the Zone 1 viewing as has been discussed earlier if using the same source for both. If using a different source for Zone 2 then you don't really need the audio extractor. So, attaching the extractor to Zone 2 really does not buy you anything.
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What exactly is the use case you want this for? Do you want the audio as analog, digital, stereo, multi-channel, to headphone transmitters, etc?



(Also, do not buy the one you linked. See reasons below)



The typical use of an audio extractor is to "tap" the HDMI path for the audio portion to do one of

(1) feed analog stereo out to headphones or headphones transmitter if the receiver does not offer another way of doing this
(2) To feed the audio as a digital/analog signal to active speakers or another integrated amp to provide the same sound as what is going through the original HDMI.


As such, if the audio extractor is correctly designed the original source and sink have no idea of the "tap" in the path. To be able to do this completely transparently, you need an audio extractor that can pass through the full [email protected] hz formats, have at least 18GB bandwidth and should be speaking the same HDMI 2.x and HDCP 2.x versions as the receiver/tv. They also pass through the EDID from the TV back to receiver and allow ARC so that the HDMI path is truly transparent as far as receiver and TV are concerned.



Monoprice (amongst others) sell such units around the $40-$50 price range. Look up the reviews to make sure they don't have any quirks that may not work for your use case.


Typically these provide a stereo analog and a TOSLINK optical jacks for audio out. They can take multiple channel sound in the original path and send it out as multi-channel PCM SPDIF. But because of the limitations of the latter, it can only do up to 5.1. There are other units which also provide a second HDMI extraction but downgraded to 1.4 (1080p and 5.1 audio max) if you want both audio and video. The latter does not affect/downgrade the original path allowing content with DRM to be played through the original path.



What you want to do with that audio is entirely up to you. The receiver and TV have no awareness of this extractor and behave as if it did not exist which means no control whatsoever from the receiver or the TV on the extracted audio - no volume control, etc. So, to answer your specific question, a correctly chosen audio extractor will not affect anything in the receiver or the TV or the original viewing and has nothing to do with any zones.


You can also attach it to Zone 2 HDMI (you should avoid attaching them to the second monitor HDMI for various reasons). But this can affect the Zone 1 viewing as has been discussed earlier if using the same source for both. If using a different source for Zone 2 then you don't really need the audio extractor. So, attaching the extractor to Zone 2 really does not buy you anything.
Thank you so much. Here is my use case.

I want to have ability to use 7.2 audio for zone1. But still need a way to get stereo audio signal (full strength) for times when I want to drive another amp or to feed my wireless headphones.

I was wondering if a suitable audio extractor on zone 1 HDMI output will do that. Or is there another preferred way?

I have a new x3500 AVR that I have not set up yet. I want to get all components before setting it up.

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Anyone who may have used an HDMI audio extractor, could you provide some input?

1. Will this change the audio setting of Zone 1 in Denon 3500h? The reason I am asking is that the extracted audio will be two channel analog out. Will that force Zone 1 audio setting on the AVR (x3500h) to be 2 Chanel audio as well?

2. If I place the HDMI audio extractor on zone 2, would I be able to extract two channel analog audio without changing the zone 1 audio setting in the AVR? Zone two audio amplifier will be used for 7.2 configuration. Since I am not planning to have zone 2 TV, I am hoping that it will allow me to control this volume using Denon remote. True?

Any other idea to drive a separate amplifier for another area from 3500h without using zone 2 output?

Thanks
1. Depends on the audio extractor. If it's able to pass the HDMI audio+video signal untouched via the HDMI output while simultaneously passing audio via the other outputs, then no, there shouldn't be any impact to the multi channel audio going to Zone 1 and especially not as it would be going to a multi channel AVR for your 7.2 configuration. Note however, the Zone 2 AVR would control the volume not the Zone 1 AVR.

2. If you mean the Zone 2 HDMI Monitor output, then no change to Zone 1 as noted above.

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Thank you so much. Here is my use case.

I want to have ability to use 7.2 audio for zone1. But still need a way to get stereo audio signal (full strength) for times when I want to drive another amp or to feed my wireless headphones.

I was wondering if a suitable audio extractor on zone 1 HDMI output will do that. Or is there another preferred way?

I have a new x3500 AVR that I have not set up yet. I want to get all components before setting it up.
1. In order for audio to pass to the Monitor 1 output, the <HDMI Audio Out> setting would have to be "TV" which would then disable audio going to the Zone 1 surround speakers.
2. The preferred way is to find an audio extractor that will suit your use case as noted in item 1 in the above post which would be connected between the source and the Zone 1 AVR.
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Hello new X4500H owner here!
Pretty much set up here and it’s an impressive receiver.

Couple of questions with volume control.
I don’t hear any audio until I hit about 35 and then I’m around normal in the 50s?
When I crank it up where it gets way to much I’m around 75-80 which is probably way to much for my space! I’d I’d be around 65-70 for movie watching. Anyway to scale it down to 0 so when I hit 25-50 I’m at normal to loud audio if anyone gets what I’m saying?
Also can I shut off the volume control on my tv screen and just limit it to the receivers display so I can adjust volume while watching content?

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1. Depends on the audio extractor. If it's able to pass the HDMI audio+video signal untouched via the HDMI output while simultaneously passing audio via the other outputs, then no, there shouldn't be any impact to the multi channel audio going to Zone 1 and especially not as it would be going to a multi channel AVR for your 7.2 configuration. Note however, the Zone 2 AVR would control the volume not the Zone 1 AVR.



2. If you mean the Zone 2 HDMI Monitor output, then no change to Zone 1 as noted above.







1. In order for audio to pass to the Monitor 1 output, the <HDMI Audio Out> setting would have to be "TV" which would then disable audio going to the Zone 1 surround speakers.

2. The preferred way is to find an audio extractor that will suit your use case as noted in item 1 in the above post which would be connected between the source and the Zone 1 AVR.
Ok. Looks like when I am using 7.2 audio in AVR, audio is not being passed to the HDMI out that is connected to the TV. So TV will not have any sound when 7.2 audio is running from AVR.

Is that correct?
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Ok. Looks like when I am using 7.2 audio in AVR, audio is not being passed to the HDMI out that is connected to the TV. So TV will not have any sound when 7.2 audio is running from AVR.

Is that correct?
Correct. The setting is either "TV" or "AVR".
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Hello new X4500H owner here!
Pretty much set up here and it’s an impressive receiver.

Couple of questions with volume control.
I don’t hear any audio until I hit about 35 and then I’m around normal in the 50s?
When I crank it up where it gets way to much I’m around 75-80 which is probably way to much for my space! I’d I’d be around 65-70 for movie watching. Anyway to scale it down to 0 so when I hit 25-50 I’m at normal to loud audio if anyone gets what I’m saying?
Also can I shut off the volume control on my tv screen and just limit it to the receivers display so I can adjust volume while watching content?
Denon AVRs use a logarithmic volume scale such that 50-70 is average with audible volume starting no earlier than around 40 or so. As long as you don't go over 80, there should be no power issue.

If you enable Audyssey Dynamic Volume, the desired volume level will likely drop about 15-20, although you're also attenuating loud booms/bangs in the process which is generally only desired at night when others are sleeping.

Refer to p. 202 Owner's manual - ON SCREEN DISPLAY - OFF
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. Anyway to scale it down to 0 so when I hit 25-50 I’m at normal to loud audio if anyone gets what I’m saying?
Not really.

Note that you can set the volume reading according to two scales (manual page 185). Maybe adjusting the source level would help do what you want? Page 209 Or Reference Level Offset (page 187)

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Ok thanks! And I found the onscreen volume in the manual!

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Correct. The setting is either "TV" or "AVR".
Thank you. Here is another approach. Let me know if this will work.

I connect back surround back speaker out to back surround Speakers but also connect the surround back preouts to an external amplifiers and wireless headphones. Are you with me so far?

When needing to use the external amplifiers or wireless headphones, assign the surround back outputs to zone 2, reduce zone 1 volume down and use zone 2 volume to adjust volume to external amplifiers and the wireless headphones.

I don't know if it is easy to reassign surround back to zone 2 on a fly.
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Thank you. Here is another approach. Let me know if this will work.

I connect back surround back speaker out to back surround Speakers but also connect the surround back preouts to an external amplifiers and wireless headphones. Are you with me so far?

When needing to use the external amplifiers or wireless headphones, assign the surround back outputs to zone 2, reduce zone 1 volume down and use zone 2 volume to adjust volume to external amplifiers and the wireless headphones.

I don't know if it is easy to reassign surround back to zone 2 on a fly.
Yes, that would work if you use ALL ZONE STEREO when passing audio to Zone 2.
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Hi everyone. I'm having an "input" issue with my AVR-X4300H. While running blu-ray UHD4K with Atmos, I am no longer getting an input that is "Atmos". In fact it's not DTX-X either on those. It's only showing a 5.1 input, then it is upscaled to 5.1.2. I recognize this is not a huge Atmos Set up but the AVR did show "Atmos" on the input signal before - or DTSX - but it stopped doing it and I can't figure it out.

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AVR-Input set up and Amp Assign - 7.1 & Zone 2. Speakers are set up in system as follows

R/L Front
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Rear Surrounds
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R/L Front Height

It's worth noting that within the Blu-Ray:
Audio selected as Atmos and noted as Atmos (or DTS-X on non Atmos Blu-Rays) - which is showing as the feed when I do the pop-up on the screen to check.

AVR is not feeding height channels at all - just the others. I use the lower left Green Key on the remote to toggle through options on the screen while a disk is running - no option - just dolby surround selection options, all channel stereo, etc.

I really can't figure it out. And i have no idea what I could have done that has changed it because I don't believe i fiddled with it.

Any help would be most welcome.

Thanks.
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Hi everyone. I'm having an "input" issue with my AVR-X4300H. While running blu-ray UHD4K with Atmos, I am no longer getting an input that is "Atmos". In fact it's not DTX-X either on those. It's only showing a 5.1 input, then it is upscaled to 5.1.2. I recognize this is not a huge Atmos Set up but the AVR did show "Atmos" on the input signal before - or DTSX - but it stopped doing it and I can't figure it out.

Some details -
Blu-Ray Panny as noted in sig line.
AVR-Input set up and Amp Assign - 7.1 & Zone 2. Speakers are set up in system as follows

R/L Front
Center
Rear Surrounds
Sub
R/L Front Height

It's worth noting that within the Blu-Ray:
Audio selected as Atmos and noted as Atmos (or DTS-X on non Atmos Blu-Rays) - which is showing as the feed when I do the pop-up on the screen to check.

AVR is not feeding height channels at all - just the others. I use the lower left Green Key on the remote to toggle through options on the screen while a disk is running - no option - just dolby surround selection options, all channel stereo, etc.

I really can't figure it out. And i have no idea what I could have done that has changed it because I don't believe i fiddled with it.

Any help would be most welcome.

Thanks.
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Hi everyone. I'm having an "input" issue with my AVR-X4300H.
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AVR-Input set up and Amp Assign - 7.1 & Zone 2.
The Amp assign may be the culprit here, you must select a layout for Atmos 5.1.4 or 7.1.2, not 7.1 + Zone 2.
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The Amp assign may be the culprit here, you must select a layout for Atmos 5.1.4 or 7.1.2, not 7.1 + Zone 2.
Thank you. It doesn’t have that option. When I do Amp Assign and that speaker configuration it does say format supported os Atmos and DTS though.

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Thank you. It doesn’t have that option. When I do Amp Assign and that speaker configuration it does say format supported os Atmos and DTS though.
As previously suggested, please repost in the correct thread for your model ---> https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...hread-faq.html
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Yes, that would work if you use ALL ZONE STEREO when passing audio to Zone 2.
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If I had assigned all outputs to HT use, and then select ALL ZONE STEREO, will I still have volume control for zone 2? Remember I had earlier assigned zone 2 speaker output to rear surround but had connected preout to external amplifiers.

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Thanks.

If I had assigned all outputs to HT use, and then select ALL ZONE STEREO, will I still have volume control for zone 2? Remember I had earlier assigned zone 2 speaker output to rear surround but had connected preout to external amplifiers.

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Yes.
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When using the Receiver watching regular TV - Sound and Volume is great. When watching a Blu-Ray or DVD sound and volume is great.

When using the smart TV Apps, the volume is lower, I have to turn it up quite a bit and when I do, the sound quality isn't there, it sounds muted or muffled. I am using the following apps on the TV - Netflix, Spotify and Vudu.

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Hi Jairman88, could be the TV causing the low volume. If you haven't, unplug power cord to TV and waited for approximately 30 minutes (or could try 15 minutes).
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Just picked up both an AVRS940H for upstairs and a Sony STR-DN1080 for the downstairs. I had an older S920W and the whole plan was to only upgrade the upstairs but I honestly can't seem to figure why the STR-DN1080 seems to have so much better sound than my older S920 as well as the 940H I just picked up. I certainly see a lot of posts about cranking up the volume to over 50 but I honestly haven't gotten above 25 on the Sony. Is it just the way the Denon seems to be made or is it possible I've done something wrong?
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Just picked up both an AVRS940H for upstairs and a Sony STR-DN1080 for the downstairs. I had an older S920W and the whole plan was to only upgrade the upstairs but I honestly can't seem to figure why the STR-DN1080 seems to have so much better sound than my older S920 as well as the 940H I just picked up. I certainly see a lot of posts about cranking up the volume to over 50 but I honestly haven't gotten above 25 on the Sony. Is it just the way the Denon seems to be made or is it possible I've done something wrong?
Comparing different manufacturers pots gain structure is a wasted comparison. Use an SPL meter to verify both makes are achieving the same levels at the MLP and turn off any compressors or dynamic EQ and just compare room correction suites. You may just prefer what DCAC does in your space over what Audyssey does. It happens.
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Just picked up both an AVRS940H for upstairs and a Sony STR-DN1080 for the downstairs. I had an older S920W and the whole plan was to only upgrade the upstairs but I honestly can't seem to figure why the STR-DN1080 seems to have so much better sound than my older S920 as well as the 940H I just picked up. I certainly see a lot of posts about cranking up the volume to over 50 but I honestly haven't gotten above 25 on the Sony. Is it just the way the Denon seems to be made or is it possible I've done something wrong?
Correct. Denon uses a logarithmic volume scale such that 50-70 is average volume on most setups after running Audyssey.
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