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XLR Cable Recommendation

Looking for some decent but not crazy expensive XLR cables to hook up my marantz AV8805 to
my ATI amplifiers they are the AT528NC and AT523NC. I always seem to go with monoprice cables for a lot
of stuff and usually get their high end cables like hdmi cables etc but XLRs are another animal. Any suggestions on which XLR i should go with ? The cable won’t be more than 3 to 6 feet total.
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Monoprice Stage Right cable are pretty good. Avoid their Essentials/Premier series XLRs.

GLS Audio makes well built, inexpensive XLRs as does MCS Pro Audio.
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I am using the Monoprice XLRs, two different series, one 3 yrs old the other a new one bought 2 months ago.
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Canare L-4E6S Star Quad Balanced Audio Cable from Blue Jeans Cable
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Wow that cable is nice but man the price lol i need 22 of them that will empty a wallet quick
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Monoprice Stage Right cable are pretty good. Avoid their Essentials/Premier series XLRs.

GLS Audio makes well built, inexpensive XLRs as does MCS Pro Audio.
I am looking hard at the GLS audios they look nice someone told me i need 19awg or less but i don’t see anyone advertising the wire size and that’s probably because it’s a standard size not sure
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I am looking hard at the GLS audios they look nice someone told me i need 19awg or less but i don’t see anyone advertising the wire size and that’s probably because it’s a standard size not sure
To be honest ≥6ft AWG doesn't matter much.

20AWG is about the best you can get [and all you need] at a reasonable price. Beware of the Monoprice Essentials/Premier as are advertised as 16AWG but aren't really (very misleading as there is a very thick rubber sheath with 22-24AWG wiring inside). Their Stage Right cables are much better.

If you want 16AWG go here and scroll to the bottom. I've had good success with their cables. They are among the few that offer adjustable right angle connectors (great for subs).

https://www.advancemcs.com/sps/conne...es/XLR-16gauge
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To be honest ≥6ft AWG doesn't matter much.

20AWG is about the best you can get [and all you need] at a reasonable price. Beware of the Monoprice Essentials/Premier as are advertised as 16AWG but aren't really (very misleading as there is a very thick rubber sheath with 22-24AWG wiring inside). Their Stage Right cables are much better.

If you want 16AWG go here and scroll to the bottom. I've had good success with their cables. They are among the few that offer adjustable right angle connectors (great for subs).

https://www.advancemcs.com/sps/conne...es/XLR-16gauge
Yeah i was looking at the GLS actually but yeah the right angle monoprice aren’t bad but these you just sent me are really nice and not too expensive i think i may try them
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Wow that cable is nice but man the price lol i need 22 of them that will empty a wallet quick
Mate, I count 11 amp channels in the incoming ATI's. You only need one XLR terminated cable per channel (not two).
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Mate, I count 11 amp channels in the incoming ATI's. You only need one XLR terminated cable per channel (not two).
I forgot to mention that the reason i need two cables per channel is because i am using an art pro t8 ground looop isolator between the amp and pre amp
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Can anyone recommend ones in the mid tier range? I'd probably like to get something above bottom barrel with good build quality. I need 5 of them and am looking to pay about $100 a piece for something about 2ft.

Also can someone explain to be the different between XLR and AES/EBU

I've seen AES/EBU with XLR plugs and they say these are digital cables. I'm not really understanding how a cable with analog plugs can be a digital cable
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Can anyone recommend ones in the mid tier range? I'd probably like to get something above bottom barrel with good build quality. I need 5 of them and am looking to pay about $100 a piece for something about 2ft.

Also can someone explain to be the different between XLR and AES/EBU

I've seen AES/EBU with XLR plugs and they say these are digital cables. I'm not really understanding how a cable with analog plugs can be a digital cable
Below $100 the best cables you can get are Mogami Gold Studio (Still Made in Japan and No-Excuses Life time Warranty)

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...2-foot-xlr-xlr

I use Mogami Gold Studio XLR cables at home between all my balanced components (Emotiva XMC-1, Emotiva amps, Oppo 105D, Apogee Quartet and Dynaudio BM5 mkIII monitors) and at work with pro audio equipment. These cables last forever.
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i am using an art pro t8 ground looop isolator between the amp and pre amp
Why?
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Looking for some decent but not crazy expensive XLR cables to hook up my marantz AV8805 to
my ATI amplifiers they are the AT528NC and AT523NC. I always seem to go with monoprice cables for a lot
of stuff and usually get their high end cables like hdmi cables etc but XLRs are another animal. Any suggestions on which XLR i should go with ? The cable won’t be more than 3 to 6 feet total.
I use this for my whole setup

https://store.wireworldcable.com/col...ant=1249819067

Wireworld use to call this cable Luna, but they have just changed the name of it. and moved it to their pro audio section.

Working great for over 6 years with me.


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I use this for my whole setup

https://store.wireworldcable.com/col...ant=1249819067

Wireworld use to call this cable Luna, but they have just changed the name of it. and moved it to their pro audio section.

Working great for over 6 years with me.

Shoot i need 23 of those lol that would kill my bank. I have a patch panel im going to so i need 2 for every channel so thats 26 cables total any other ideas? I did think about the GLS Audio cables i am looking to buy them for $150 for 30 cables, are they any good?


https://www.glsaudio.com/GLS-Audio-X...ack_p_536.html
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solder them yourself - you can get Mogami or Canare cable for less than $1/ft and Neutrik connectors are about $3 each.
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Shoot i need 23 of those lol that would kill my bank. I have a patch panel im going to so i need 2 for every channel so thats 26 cables total any other ideas? I did think about the GLS Audio cables i am looking to buy them for $150 for 30 cables, are they any good?


https://www.glsaudio.com/GLS-Audio-X...ack_p_536.html
On Thursday I ran impedence sweeps on the GLS Audio cables vs Seismjc Audio vs Hosa Edge vs Mogami. At 5-6ft and even 10-12ft the differences are negligible not even considering the high input impedance of an amplifier. The GLS also use a high quality Neutrik X-series clone connector.

The Hosa Edge and Monoprice Stage Right use Neutrik XX-series but cost more.

For 6ft interconnects it is not worth the time and effort to build your own. Just use GLS.
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I highly recommend any of the BlueJeans Cables balanced interconnects. It's what I use for critical interconnects in my very complex system (external active xovers, bi-amp, 5.4.4 setup, etc.). I must have over 25 of them in the system now. And I have a box of older XLR cables I had from when the system had even more gear. The BlueJeans Cables are really high quality stuff.

That said, if going for 22, then the prior advice to roll your own is a good one. Buy a few extra XLR ends and practice a bit. This way you can do custom lengths and get a much neater result. Believe me, anytime one has over 20 cables, it can get messy no matter how many zip-ties one uses.

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I've used DH Labs, Monoprice and Blue Jeans Cables at various times in the past. The only difference seemed to be the quality of the connectors and the flexibility of the wire... and nothing audible that I picked up. YMMV.

Currently I use BJC Belden 1800F Balanced Audio cables and they've been solid performers.
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I highly recommend any of the BlueJeans Cables balanced interconnects. It's what I use for critical interconnects in my very complex system (external active xovers, bi-amp, 5.4.4 setup, etc.). I must have over 25 of them in the system now. And I have a box of older XLR cables I had from when the system had even more gear. The BlueJeans Cables are really high quality stuff.

That said, if going for 22, then the prior advice to roll your own is a good one. Buy a few extra XLR ends and practice a bit. This way you can do custom lengths and get a much neater result. Believe me, anytime one has over 20 cables, it can get messy no matter how many zip-ties one uses.
I agree just not wanting to do my own cables i got enough things to hook up the GLS cables wern’t bad for 30 3ft patch cables. I soent about $145. Maybe down the road when i have some spare time i will practice a few and get some cable and make my own but for now and also for testing my system i rather use factory cables in case i mess up somewhere and end up with a troubleshooting nightmare trying to find a problem if i wire one wrong.
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I've used DH Labs, Monoprice and Blue Jeans Cables at various times in the past. The only difference seemed to be the quality of the connectors and the flexibility of the wire... and nothing audible that I picked up. YMMV.
Yep, the beauty of balanced signaling is that with properly built cables there should never be an audible difference at ≥6ft per interconnect. 100ft? Now we are talking. But I bet the pros don't use esoteric cables. I don't think you can get any better than what BJC sells. The WireWorld cable look great though.

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I recently had to move my amp rack to make room for bigger subs and speakers. I pulled out all of my interconnects and decided to go with a 12x22AWG snake from Seismic Audio. The connectors are the same as the ones used by GLS. I'm using Hosa Edge (20AWG) for the front LCR for peace of mind. They are better built and the Neutrik XX-series connectors make superior contact vs the older X-series and their clones.

While a 5' Hosa Edge measures slightly better than a 6' GLS Audio (slight high end roll-off). A 12' GLS measures better than two daisy chained 5' Hosas and of course better than two 6' daisy chained GLS. It's better to have a proper length of decent/good cable than to daisy chain multiple XLR cables.

I'd like to get my hands on as many cables as I can and keep a database of impedance measurements. I am using the Audiomatica Clio 12 system to measure. Anyone with a DATS should be able to measure interconnects as well.

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parts express carries Talent xlr cables...good?...bad?...indifferent?

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Currently I use BJC Belden 1800F Balanced Audio cables and they've been solid performers.

I like this cable - I believe it is one of the few that is actually in-wall rated! Easy to work with shield too. Used this for my XLR subwoofer in-wall runs. Also a fan of Mogami quad-star W2534.

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parts express carries Talent xlr cables...good?...bad?...indifferent?
If you want some of the best cables out there, that aren't a total ripoff, have a look at Mogami, not only is their cable good stuff, but the connectors are solid (Neutrik), very well-built. Not cheap, but not like some of those exotic brands!

http://www.mogamicable.com/category/...6-15-25-50.php

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If you want some of the best cables out there, that aren't a total ripoff, have a look at Mogami, not only is their cable good stuff, but the connectors are solid (Neutrik), very well-built. Not cheap, but not like some of those exotic brands!

http://www.mogamicable.com/category/...6-15-25-50.php

yeah...I got that thanks. what about talent cables?

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yeah...I got that thanks. what about talent cables?

Sorry, no help here. Not familiar with those.

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Monoprice Stage Right cable are pretty good. Avoid their Essentials/Premier series XLRs.

GLS Audio makes well built, inexpensive XLRs as does MCS Pro Audio.
what is wrong with the Monoprice premier series ?

a lotta in's, a lotta out's, a lotta what-have-you's

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Check out Markertek for the best prices I’ve found for Canare star quad XLR cables with neutrik connectors. It’s what I use and I couldn’t be more pleased with their quality.

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I build a lot of XLR cables to use with broadcast-quality video players. The wire I use is Audio-Technica 8300. At one time I knew the specs, but I don't remember now. What I do know is they use an additional conductive coating between the wire and shield to ensure full shielding and the shielding is copper not aluminum or tinned. I've had no issues running 30+ video digitization lines with most of our customers having very demanding requirements. I've used both GLS and Neutrik connectors. Primarily the GLS, but several non-production projects required the Neutrik. Both are easy to work with.
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