Marantz SR5013 - issues, review and comparison with old Onkyo
Hello, a few weeks I decided to make a 'refresh' of my old system that was Panasonic ST60 plazma paired with Onkyo TX-SR508 7.1 receiver , Bi-Amped with PSB Alpha speakers and Energy sub (5.1). I was unlucky that some short circuit (could be due to the storm) burned my HDMI board on Onkyo but also on TV so I decided to invest some money and buy latest available equipment.
For me home theater is more important than listening to music so for TV it was an easy decision: LG OLED C9, 65'', which is amazing, out of this world technology and I would give 10/10 grade. I was always afraid to change good old plasma, but this is heaven to watch.
For AV receiver it was hard to decide and first I was leaning to Denon and later on after reading many of user reviews decided to buy Marantz SR5013, that was for me premium brand in comparison to Onkyo (at least I thought so). I was expecting a huge difference in comparison to 10 years old, and less powerful Onkyo TX-SR508 in all fields, but unfortunately all my expectations were ruined after I set the system, or to say it better...after I was trying to set the system work.
Let's put aside how Marantz sounds, I will come back to this later.
After initial start I was surprised how bad the menus are, I don't like them but this is personal opinion. They look much more 'professional' on my old Onkyo and you have many additional options.
My biggest problem was setting ARC in order to get sound from TV and HDMI control. After many hours of trying I couldn't get this thing work and ended with optic cable that, partially solved the problem. I have the sound but no HDMI control. For comparison... Onkyo with Panasonic was working flawlessly from the first setup. I just needed to press button on PS4 controller and whole system was turned on with the right HDMI input. The same was with shut down sequence.
With LG and Marantz ARC is not working and I really have no idea why. SR508 is 2018. model, C9 is 2019. model. It should be compatible.
Other 'strange' experience with Marantz is Bluetooth that I tested with 2 diferent Androit smarthones (ZTE Axon 7 and latest Xiaomi Mi9). It's stupid that Marantz, when shut down, does not have bluetooth in some kind of stand-by mode so you can easily connect to it whenever you want, so your smartphone would initialize turning of Marantz on, and switching to bluetooth mode. Instead, you have to press Bluetooth on Marantz remote in order to be able to connect. And connecting is hell even after shut down and turn-on it's not working like it should, connection is not instant and smooth, you have to wait and wait and wait and wait... Moreover, after 'successful' Bluetooth connection another strange problem starts..
Imagine yourself watching Netflix in 4K (it has to be 4k)... or youtube 4K video.. So if you have turned tv in the background and you change Marantz to Bluetooth and play something on.. youtube or any local song.. Marantz will play with incredibly strong interference produced probably by wifi conection. Strange, when you use bluetooth Marantz is not downloading anything via wifi but interference exists and music will stop playing, will have distortions, noises, in short words it's impossible to be listened. When you turn tv off it works without issues. When you play some HD material on youtube (on tv) it's also OK. There is only a problem if you play 4K video that uses to much wifi trafic. Strange. Can somebody explain what could be the cause?
Marantz dispaly is really small and bad. Low quality, it looks like it's 30 years old display. I was really disappointed not only by how it looks but also with lack of data is shows. Without ARC I was depending on the display.
Sound level and unresponsive remote control. Since I have to use Marantz remote, which looks cheap and has hard buttons, I was surprised to see how unresponsive it is in comparison with Onkyo remote. You really have to point remote towards Marantz to make it work, you have to point it more to the right side of AV receiver, and if something stands in front (like front speaker in my case) it will be like trying to find a G spot. So disappointed with IR remote and IR receiver. Sound level is also strange. Turning volume up or down lasts incredibly long and you cannot just like that turn the volume up or down.. this process will take some time, a long time.
Sound. I was surprised how the system sounds. I was expecting this. It sounded much fuller than old Onkyo with better vocals and usage of surround speakers. But something was missing and I wasn't able to get this - strong bass like the one present in Onkyo. I like strong deep bass that I can really feel and that is making my house shaking during come action on the screen or when some music hits (i like to play Metallica Nothing else matters for a test) and this is the point that was crucial for me.
I disconnected Marantz and tried to connect old Onkyo (hdmi is not working bur aux is working). And that good old strong, full bass was back.
I still have SR5013 but it's packed in a box and waiting to be returned.
In the meantime I ordered 2019. model Onkyo TX-NR696 that will arrive tomorrow, can't wait to try it.