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"OFFICIAL" 2018 Marantz "NR-Series"/"SR-Series" AVR Owner's Thread + FAQ (Posts 1-7)

"OFFICIAL" 2018 Marantz NR1509/NR1609/SR5013/SR6013/SR7013

The Denon + Marantz Group (ie. D+M Group) USA has started to release information on the new 2018 Marantz models starting with the slim line "NR" series models. The "SR" series will be announced later this summer. The 2017 SR8012 will continue for 2018 as well (ie. there will be no SR8013).

What's new or to be added via firmware update for the 2018 models?

- Able to overlay the Volume, Info, and Option menus on 4k video (including Dolby Vision) while Setup takes up whole page on black background
- RESET - Menu setting that restores all settings to factory default (in addition to usual 2 button + power on reset)
- PHONO input (formerly only on SR60XX/SR70XX, now on all models; also added as audio input available with <Video Select> feature)
- Airplay 2 (via future firmware update on all current and former HEOS capable models)
- Web Control (reintroduced for the first time on HEOS models)
- <Dialog Level> setting more appropriately relabeled as <Center Level> as it simply adjusts the volume level of the center speaker
- <Center Level> (formerly Dialog Level Adjust) and <Subwoofer Level> (formerly Subwoofer Level Adjust) no longer have ON/OFF setting, but rather simply mirror the Center/Subwoofer Manual Setup - Levels - Test Tones settings such that they can be adjusted on the fly now correctly as opposed to being in addition to the Manual Setup settings on previous year's models
- Detachable WiFi/Bluetooth antennas (new for NR1509/NR1609)
- “ihiji Invision” and Domotz Pro remote system management technology ("SR" series)
- eARC (SR6012/SR6013 and SR7012/SR7013 - via future firmware update) - Note an HDMI w/Ethernet cable must be used.
IMAX enhanced DTS:X processing (SR6013/SR7013 - via firmware update early 2019)

What was dropped from the 2017 models?
- Circle indicator on front panel display when "HEOS Music" source is playing
- Smart Select initial volume no longer defaults to an initial value (ie. previously 40 but now must be set by the user)

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Notes:
1. Although all models feature two subwoofer pre-outs, only the SR6013/SR7013/SR8012 have independent subwoofer volume control of each subwoofer.
2. None of these models support Front Wide speakers.

Marantz model web page info and Owner manual links


- All models feature Dolby Vision and HLG from the factory

- NR1509 - MSRP $549, 5.2 CH, 50W, HDMI In/Out (6/1) - avail May
This is a slim line model that features Audyssey MultEQ (6 mic positions), networking, Web Control, DSD via USB/network source, speaker posts, 32 bit DAC, and an on board Denon HEOS module (allows streaming of HEOS app music services to the AVR as well as streaming PCM 2.0 source from the AVR to HEOS wireless speakers set up around the home). Firmware updates are installed via a network connection or USB. There are FL/FR main zone pre-outs but no Zone 2 pre-outs. PHONO input included.

http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=NR1509

http://manuals.marantz.com/NR1509/NA/EN/

- NR1609 - MSRP $749, 7.2 CH, 50W, HDMI In/Out (6/1) - avail May
Upgrading from the NR1509 adds two more audio channels for a 7CH model, Atmos/DTS:X 5.2.2, DTS:X. It features 5.1 + Zone 2 capability using the Surround Back speaker posts for Zone 2 and also adds Zone 2 pre-outs using an external amp. DTS Virtual:X (simulates height audio when using a 5.1 or 7.1 configuration but Audyssey is disabled). Lowest model that works with the Audyssey MultEQ Editor app (iOS/Android, $20) to fine tune the Audyssey speaker/sub calibration.

http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=NR1609

http://manuals.marantz.com/NR1609/NA/EN/


- SR5013 - MSRP $999, 7.2 CH, 100W, HDMI In/Out (8/2) - avail July
Upgrading from the NR1609 adds HDAM Pre-Amp modules (provides for better 2CH music listening), 7.2 Main zone pre-outs, 7.1 multi analog inputs, a second Main zone HDMI monitor output and the better version of Audyssey MultEQ XT.

http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=SR5013

http://manuals.marantz.com/SR5013/NA/EN/


- SR6013 - MSRP $1499, 9.2 CH, 110W, HDMI In/Out (8/3) - avail July
Upgrading from the SR5013 adds a Zone 2 HDMI monitor output, the best version of Audyssey MultEQ XT32, Audyssey LFC, Audyssey Sub EQ HT (dual sub level/delay), eARC, and the ability to expand to 11CH (ie. 7.2.4) by using a 2CH external amp. DTS Virtual:X (simulates height audio when using a 5.1 or 7.1 configuration and although Audyssey MultEQ XT32 is NOT disabled, all other Audyssey features are disabled). Lowest model that can pass PCM 2.0 audio from an HDMI source to Zone 2 and to HEOS wireless speakers.

http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=SR6013

http://manuals.marantz.com/SR6013/NA/EN/


- SR7013 - MSRP $2199, 9.2 CH, 110W, HDMI In/Out (8/3) - avail September
Upgrading from the SR6013 adds Zone 3 (w/digital but not HDMI 2.0 pass through) and Zone 3 pre-outs, an extra Comp IN with the COMP OUT able to be selectable as either MAIN or Zone 2, Blue LED around the Porthole, Remote control w/backlight button & preset codes for other devices; a second 12v Trigger, 2 line display under front panel flap; 2 CH Playback (LARGE/SMALL; crossover settings, sub – on/off, LFE -LFE+MAIN, distance, level), 2nd Optical/Digital Coax inputs, Auro 3D, and Aluminum front panel.

http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=SR7013

http://manuals.marantz.com/SR7013/NA/EN/




Welcome to the Official 2018 Marantz AVR-NR/SR models thread (NR1509/NR1609/SR5013/SR6013/SR7013).


If this is your first visit to this thread, and you want to ask a question about one of the 2018 Marantz AVR models, either one that you own or one that you are thinking of buying, please provide the following information to allow for better responses to your questions:

(a) Identify the model number in question (eg. SR5013), as there are 6 different models (NR and SR series) discussed in this thread. Also if you have not posted in several days since your initial post, please post the model # again so we don't have to back track to learn which model you are referencing.

(b) Identify what you've done so far to troubleshoot the issue and what the front panel is displaying if an audio issue, (also take a few minutes to review the Troubleshooting section provided in post 3 as your question may already be answered there,

(c) Unless you indicate what settings have been changed, the assumption will be that all settings are on the factory defaults (ie. usually "Auto"),

(d) If the advice given seems to simplistic or obvious, don't shoot the advice giver as we have no idea of the level of your technical understanding,

(e) If there is no response to your post, it either means no one knows the answer or it has simply been overlooked so please repost if you still haven't resolved your issue,

(f) If you post a question in this thread and are given advice and either it or some other advice (eg. Marantz phone support, Marantz "Ask a Question" email support) resolves your issue, have the common courtesy to post back what solution resolved your issue so others can learn from it as well,

(g) If the issue is not user error or not just a misunderstanding on how the AVR works, please call Marantz support so the issue is registered,

(h) When responding to another post that is providing assistance to you, please press the "Quote" button in the lower right corner of that other poster's response so that response is also listed with your new post to provide some context, and,

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Known Issues, By Design and other tips relating to the 2018 Marantz NR/SR Series models


1. By design, performing operations during playback of a Dolby Vision signal may cause variance in the color display of the menu screen and operations content. This is a characteristic of the Dolby Vision signal and is not a malfunction.

2. By design, when the sound mode is in “DTS Virtual:X” or sound mode that has “+Virtual:X” in the sound mode name, “Audyssey MultEQ/XT”, “Dynamic EQ” and “Dynamic Volume” settings cannot be configured (NR1409/NR1609/SR5013). Although the SR6013/SR7013 can use Audyssey XT32, it is not possible to enable Dynamic EQ, Dynamic Volume, or LFC.

3. Manual EQ refers to the Graphic EQ while Manual Setup refers to the Audyssey settings that can be edited by you (ie. originally holding a copy of the Audyssey Setup settings which never change so you can more easily return to them if you choose to do so).

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How do I reset the microprocessor or do a network reset on my 2018 Marantz NR/SR series AVR?

When the AVR is acting up or doing something strange, try the following steps before resorting to a microprocessor reset:

1. "Restart" - set the AVR to Standby and press/hold the power ON button until "Restart" is displayed on the front panel.

If no joy, then ...

2. Soft reset - set the AVR to Standby and unplug the power cord for about 10 minutes, then plug back in the power cord and turn ON.

If neither of the above resolves the issue, then you'll need to either do a network reset (if network related) or a microprocessor reset. You'll also want to reset the microprocessor before doing anything else if you purchased the AVR as an "open box" or demo/used/refurb unit to ensure all settings are returned to their original factory defaults. Prior to doing a reset, you can SAVE the config file to a USB thumb drive so it can be LOADed after doing the reset (SETUP - GENERAL - SAVE&LOAD).


Network Reset (“Amp Assign”, “Speaker Config.” and “Video” settings are not reset)

NR1509 - p. 201

1 - Turn on the power using ON/STANDBY on the front panel.
2 - Select the HEOS Music Source
3 - Simultaneously press "TUNER PRESET CH +" and "DIMMER" on the front panel. Release your fingers when "Network Reset" is displayed on the front panel. "Completed" will display when the reset has completed.

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NR1609 - p. 241

1 - Turn on the power using ON/STANDBY on the front panel.
2 - Select the HEOS Music Source
3 - Simultaneously press "ZONE2 SOURCE" and "DIMMER" on the front panel. Release your fingers when "Network Reset" is displayed on the front panel. "Completed" will display when the reset has completed.

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SR5013 - p. 245
SR6013 - p. 266
SR7013 - p. 301

1 - Turn on the power using ON/STANDBY on the front panel.
2 - Select the HEOS Music Source
3 - Simultaneously press "TUNER PRESET CH -" and "DIMMER" on the front panel. Release your fingers when "Network Reset" is displayed on the front panel. "Completed" will display when the reset has completed.




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Microprocessor Reset (aka "Reset to original factory settings" although does not roll back the firmware)

Note: On all models, if you are able to access the menu, new this year, you can also do the microprocessor reset by going to SETUP - GENERAL - RESET

NR1509 - p. 200


1 - Turn off the power using ON/STANDBY.
2 - Press ON/STANDBY while simultaneously pressing the "TUNER PRESET CH+" and "M-DAX"
3 - Remove your fingers when "Initialized" appears on the front panel display.

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NR1609 - p. 240
SR5013 - p. 244
SR6013 - p. 265
SR7013 - p. 300

1 - Turn off the power using ON/STANDBY.
2 - Press ON/STANDBY while simultaneously pressing the "ZONE2 SOURCE" and "M-DAX"
3 - Remove your fingers when "Initialized" appears on the front panel display.

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Factory Restore (restore to original factory firmware version)

1 - Turn off the power using ON/STANDBY.
2 - Simultaneously press/hold the: NR1509/NR1609 - "STATUS" and "PURE DIRECT"; SR5013/SR6013 - "M-DAX" and "TUNER PRESET CH +"; SR7013 - "M-DAX" and "DYNAMIC EQ" buttons on the front panel and then press the ON/STANDBY button on the front panel. This procedure will take 15-20 minutes to restore to the original factory firmware.

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** NOTES:
(1) Prior to resetting the microprocessor, you can SAVE the config/settings (to include Audyssey settings) to a USB thumb drive using the SETUP - GENERAL - SAVE & LOAD setting.

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Firmware Change log Information

(1) Firmware updates for all 2018 models should be available via the Marantz website and can be downloaded and installed via USB thumb drive. You will need to enter the serial number of the AVR at the website page to obtain the update.

(2) Firmware updates can also be installed by the owner via an internet connection to the Marantz servers. Although it's not necessary to update your unit if you are not experiencing any problems, it's generally a good idea to keep it updated so that if there are any problems with the update the unit will still be covered under warranty. The update process generally doesn't take more than 30 minutes once the download begins and also generally does not erase any settings, although it's always a good idea to SAVE the config.avr file using the Setup - General - SAVE & LOAD - SAVE feature prior to doing the update just in case. Note that if the update process is stuck on "Authenticating", ensure a source other than NET/USB is selected and just let it continue for up to a few hours and it should eventually begin the update process (although note that Denon's servers have been known to crash the first day of release due to the overload, so you may want to wait a few days before trying again). One prior model year owner found that disconnecting ALL sources to the AVR enabled the unit to connect to the Denon servers and update the firmware when the update process had previously been unsuccessful.

Other tips if having problems with the update include setting "Network Control" to OFF in Standby, cycling the DHCP setting on the AVR, or using a static IP address.

During the update, the AVR will go into Standby mode, but will continue to update status on the front panel display. If the update seems to be hung up (ie. goes beyond 1 hour) ... power the AVR to Standby, unplug it for a few minutes and power back on and attempt the update again. If the update fails to load, check the network environment (ie. reset the router, replace the router with a more current/robust model, or ideally wire directly to the router if connecting wirelessly) If still not having any luck with the update, perform a Network Reset as described in post 3 above. You may also want to consider purchasing a long (100'+) Cat5/6 cable for network updates only for a higher probability of a successful install.

You will be notified automatically when there is a firmware update when the AVR is turned ON as long as the Notification Update setting is set to ON (factory default). For more information refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Notifications -Update in the Owner's manual. To manually check for an update, refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Update - Check for Update.

(3) What is my unit's current firmware version? The current firmware version can be determined from the AVR's menu: Setup --> General --> Information --> Firmware Version.


Firmware change log date/info:

SR7013
1. 10-31-2018
- eARC (note that in order to pass "enhanced" HD audio from an eARC able TV (not expected until late 2018/early 2019), one of the following HDMI cables must be used to connect the AVR to the TV: Standard w/Ethernet, High Speed w/Ethernet (including "Premium" High Speed w/Ethernet), or Ultra High Speed w/Ethernet)
2. 2-6-2019
- IMAX Enhanced DTS:X
- IMAX Enhanced "Manual" Audio Settings (High Pass Filter, Low Pass Filter, and Subwoofer Mode)
- While AVR displays Title/Artist/Album by status display, AVR will display "Spotify" after "Volume change, Mute, INFO, Sound Mode change, SLEEP, ZONE2 ON/OFF" operations.
- Audio is cutting out when using ARC via Low Quality Cable (Long Cable) after installing U18 firmware.
- Added "General" and "Network" to Web control. (New feature)
- Update the firmware version to 1.493.180 Music files in USB stick memory formatted with NTFS cannot be played on HEOS products.
3. 4-17-2019
- Improves overall performance and stability
4. 4-23-2019
- Resolves control system issue caused by 4-17-2019 update

SR6013
1. 10-31-2018
- See SR7013 for this date
2. 2-6-2019
- See SR7013 for this date
3. 4-17-2019
- See SR7013 for this date
4. 4-23-2019
- See SR7013 for this date


SR5013
1. 2-6-2019
- While AVR displays Title/Artist/Album by status display, AVR will display "Spotify" after "Volume change, Mute, INFO, Sound Mode change, SLEEP, ZONE2 ON/OFF" operations.
- Audio is cutting out when using ARC via Low Quality Cable (Long Cable) after installing U18 firmware.
- Added "General" and "Network" to Web control. (New feature)
- Update the firmware version to 1.493.180 Music files in USB stick memory formatted with NTFS cannot be played on HEOS products.
2. 4-17-2019
- See SR7013 for this date
3. 4-23-2019
- See SR7013 for this date

NR1609
1. 6-21-2018
- If the product is connected to ALLM compatible TV (HDMI 2.1), the transmission rate of 4K 50p / 60p format video does not become 6 Gbps.
6 Gbps of 4K signal is below.
4k 50p / 60p YCbCr 4: 2: 0 30/36 bit
4K 50p / 60p RGB 4: 4: 4 24bit
4K 50p / 60p YCbCr 4: 2: 2 36 bits
- When a customer connects "Xbox One" or "Xbox One S" and outputs a "Dolby ATMOS (MAT)" signal, there may be no sound from the AV
amplifier.
- When you connect some STB, when the audio signal changes from "Dolby ATOMS" to "Dolby Digital +", sound from the AV amplifier may not be produced.
- Modified "Auto" position of ECO mode:
--- At the volume level is low: No change any specification. (Low power consumption mode.)
--- At the volume level is high: Unit goes to the low power consumption mode when no music. When unit get signal or change source function, unit goes to the Normal power consumption mode.
- Setup Menu > General > ECO: Change the initial value of ECO Mode to "Auto"
- Sometimes No grouping possible between some speakers.
- Specific Flac files from customer do not play; neither via USB or network (twonky server 8.2.1)
- After update to, grouping of two HEOS products was no longer possible when Stereo grouped.
- When selecting the HEOS 1 under setup/help/system check/network status, and selecting the router it is connected to, a different value is shown.
- Two values for BSSID´s which are definitely wrong.
- Improved stability of audio playback and wireless connection when connecting HEOS speaker, HEOS AMP as wireless surround to HEOS Bar or HEOS AVR.
- Reduced time to detect HEOS equipment on the network and improved reliability.
2. 2-6-2019
- See SR5013 for this date
3. 4-17-2019
- See SR7013 for this date
4. 4-23-2019
- See SR7013 for this date


NR1509
1. 6-21-2018
- See NR1609 for this date
2. 2-6-2019
- See SR5013 for this date
3. 4-17-2019
- See SR7013 for this date
4. 4-23-2019
- See SR7013 for this date



** NOTES:
(1) The change log information above is provided as is, without any further explanation and only when I am able to obtain it. If the information listed above doesn't make sense, please don't ask for clarification, as I have none.

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3D Immersive Audio formats:


Dolby Atmos + Dolby Surround upmixer (aka DSU; simulates audio to height/ceiling speakers from non-Atmos BD/DVDs)

The NR1609 and SR5013 are both capable of Atmos 5.2.2 (ie. 2 height speaker maximum). You will have the choice of selecting the specific speaker pair to be used as the Atmos Height speakers (except Top Rear or Rear Height which are only selectable on the SR6013/SR7013/SR8012). If able to install in-ceiling or on-ceiling mounted speakers, the best location will be "Top Middle" either directly above your seated position or slightly forward of the seated position. Note that although the SR5013 has main zone pre-outs, it is not possible to expand the SR5013 beyond operating 7 speakers (ie. 5.1.2 maximum).




Auro 3D Demo Disc Vol 2

For those SR7013 owners that would like to receive a copy of the Auro 3D Demo Disc from Auro Technologies, although the disc itself is free, you must pay shipping and handling as noted below and Auro Technologies will send you the disc.

For Fedex shipment, handling and custom fees, pay 28 EUR (VAT included; ~$35USD) onto bank account number BE07 3630 7852 4166 (BIC: BBRU BEBB). Please indicate a reference of the notification 'Dispatch Demo Disc/758'. Alternatively, payment via Paypal is also possible and upon your request via email to [email protected], Auro will send over a Paypal Payment Request.


Notes:
(1) Speaker abbreviations used in this thread: Subwoofer (SW), Front L/R (FL/FR), Center (C), Surround L/R (SL/SR); Surround Back L/R (SBL/SBR); Front Height L/R (FHL/FHR); Top Front L/R (TFL/TFR); Top Middle L/R (TML/TMR); Top Rear L/R (TRL/TRR); Rear Height L/R (RHL/RHR), Front Dolby L/R (FDL/FDR); Surround Dolby L/R (SDL/SDR); Rear Dolby L/R (RDL/RDR).

Note the Top Rear, Rear Height, and Rear Dolby locations are only available on the SR6013/SR7013/SR8013 as these are all capable of 4 Height speakers whereas the lower models are only capable of 2 Height speakers.

(2) If you only have a 2.0/2.1/3.0/3.1 setup, you can still add 2 height (FH, TF, TM, or DF) speakers for a 2.X.2 or 3.X.2 Atmos only setup (ie. DTS:X requires 5.1.2 setup). However, when adding 2 Surround Back speakers you must first have a 5.1 setup, although you can simply move the "side surround" speakers behind you but still connect them to the "Surround" speaker posts.

(3) If you already have in-ceiling "side" surrounds for a 5.1 setup, you can do a 3.1.2 setup configuring the ceiling surrounds as Top Middle or with a 5.1.2 setup, if you can add (a) Front Heights (front wall mounted), (b) Top Fronts (in-ceiling or ceiling mounted a few feet forward and above the FL/FR speakers), or (c) Front Dolby (upward firing speakers placed on top of (or near) the FL/FR speakers. Yet another option would be to add some floor side surrounds and configure the current ceiling speakers as Top Middle.

(4) For more detailed questions and additional information on Dolby Atmos, please refer to the Official Dolby Atmos thread.

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I was checking the difference between the NR1509 and NR1609 and based on manual the differences are the number of channels and the NR1509 has no video processing similarly to the Denon X1500H.
So the error in your description is that the NR1509 also has front HDMI port. So this part is not true in the NR1609: " Upgrading from the NR1509 adds a front HDMI input"
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I was checking the difference between the NR1509 and NR1609 and based on manual the differences are the number of channels and the NR1509 has no video processing similarly to the Denon X1500H.
So the error in your description is that the NR1509 also has front HDMI port. So this part is not true in the NR1609: " Upgrading from the NR1509 adds a front HDMI input"
Correct. Thanks for the correction.
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This is the first time I've been in the market for a new receiver in quite a while. When are we expecting info on the SR6013/SR7013?
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This is the first time I've been in the market for a new receiver in quite a while. When are we expecting info on the SR6013/SR7013?
Last year it was at the beginning of June.
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This is the first time I've been in the market for a new receiver in quite a while. When are we expecting info on the SR6013/SR7013?
The SR6000 models are usually released in August with the SR7000 models in September.
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Hey guys. We aren’t expecting HDMI 2.1 on this years’ receivers right? I was debating a 5012 (or a Denon X3500h, these things look real similar) but I’m wary of jumping in right before a major HDMI revision which doesn’t happen all that often &#x1f615;
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Hey guys. We aren’t expecting HDMI 2.1 on this years’ receivers right? I was debating a 5012 (or a Denon X3500h, these things look real similar) but I’m wary of jumping in right before a major HDMI revision which doesn’t happen all that often &#x1f615;
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Dammit! Just bought two 1608 receivers!


Granted they were $350 off the MSRP because of year-end pricing. (Canada).


However, I'm still within the Best Buy exchange window.


So what do you guys think? Would it be worth the exchange (The $$) to get the newer 1609s?


On screen menus on 4K now...Woo Hoo!!
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Hey guys. We aren’t expecting HDMI 2.1 on this years’ receivers right? I was debating a 5012 (or a Denon X3500h, these things look real similar) but I’m wary of jumping in right before a major HDMI revision which doesn’t happen all that often &#x1f615;
I don't think it will really matter since 2.1 will only really affect 8K which will never be a working reality due to TV resolution vs viewing distance vs TV size... It will simply never be mainstream and studios will never shoot in it because nobody will buy 8K TVs after realizing that even 4K was too much.



4K barely caught on because it is beyond practical use for anything less than a 75" TV ... Unless of course you like to sit a few feet away from the screen... But who really does that? ... 8K will be worse!


Higher resolutions are only really useful for photo and video editing due to the greater cropping ability. We have reached (and surpassed) the resolution limit.



Nope, not to worry, 2.1 copy protection will be rendered irrelevant due to consumer forces ignoring the inevitable hype surrounding the upcoming 8K TV push... Industry will be forced to backtrack, I betcha'!


2.0 will be safe for a very long time, unless some completely different technology finds it's way into the marketplace which will necessitate (give them an excuse) for newer copy protection. And no such tech is presently on the horizon.
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Hey guys. We aren’t expecting HDMI 2.1 on this years’ receivers right? I was debating a 5012 (or a Denon X3500h, these things look real similar) but I’m wary of jumping in right before a major HDMI revision which doesn’t happen all that often &#x1f615;
I don't think it will really matter since 2.1 will only really affect 8K which will never be a working reality due to TV resolution vs viewing distance vs TV size... It will simply never be mainstream and studios will never shoot in it because nobody will buy 8K TVs after realizing that even 4K was too much.



4K barely caught on because it is beyond practical use for anything less than a 75" TV ... Unless of course you like to sit a few feet away from the screen... But who really does that? ... 8K will be worse!


Higher resolutions are only really useful for photo and video editing due to the greater cropping ability. We have reached (and surpassed) the resolution limit.



Nope, not to worry, 2.1 copy protection will be rendered irrelevant due to consumer forces ignoring the inevitable hype surrounding the upcoming 8K TV push... Industry will be forced to backtrack, I betcha'!


2.0 will be safe for a very long time, unless some completely different technology finds it's way into the marketplace which will necessitate (give them an excuse) for newer copy protection. And no such tech is presently on the horizon.
Oh it’s definitely not 8k I’m wary of missing out on. It’s Variable Refresh Rate + enough bandwidth for at least 4K60 HDR 4:4:4. VRR in particular is of great interest to me as a gamer.
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Oh it’s definitely not 8k I’m wary of missing out on. It’s Variable Refresh Rate + enough bandwidth for at least 4K60 HDR 4:4:4. VRR in particular is of great interest to me as a gamer.
Plus eARC will make a difference, for those that want full lossless audio back from the TV to the AVR.
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Using this thread as the landing for the homepage post on the NR1509 and NR1609. Thanks for this @jdsmoothie , your threads are always top notch.

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Oh it’s definitely not 8k I’m wary of missing out on. It’s Variable Refresh Rate + enough bandwidth for at least 4K60 HDR 4:4:4. VRR in particular is of great interest to me as a gamer.
Thats where I'm at. My next purchase will not be without HDMI 2.1.
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Using this thread as the landing for the homepage post on the NR1509 and NR1609. Thanks for this @jdsmoothie , your threads are always top notch.
Thanks for adding the link Mark. Some get confused and start posting troubleshooting questions in your "announcement" post otherwise.
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Firmware Change log Information

(1) Firmware updates for all 2018 models should be available via the Marantz website and can be downloaded and installed via USB thumb drive. You will need to enter the serial number of the AVR at the website page to obtain the update.

(2) Firmware updates can also be installed by the owner via an internet connection to the Denon servers. Although it's not necessary to update your unit if you are not experiencing any problems, it's generally a good idea to keep it updated so that if there are any problems with the update the unit will still be covered under warranty. The update process generally doesn't take more than 30 minutes once the download begins and also generally does not erase any settings, although it's always a good idea to SAVE the config.avr file using the Setup - General - SAVE & LOAD - SAVE feature prior to doing the update just in case. Note that if the update process is stuck on "Authenticating", ensure a source other than NET/USB is selected and just let it continue for up to a few hours and it should eventually begin the update process (although note that Denon's servers have been known to crash the first day of release due to the overload, so you may want to wait a few days before trying again). One prior model year owner found that disconnecting ALL sources to the AVR enabled the unit to connect to the Denon servers and update the firmware when the update process had previously been unsuccessful.

Other tips if having problems with the update include setting "Network Control" to OFF in Standby, cycling the DHCP setting on the AVR, or using a static IP address.

During the update, the AVR will go into Standby mode, but will continue to update status on the front panel display. If the update seems to be hung up (ie. goes beyond 1 hour) ... power the AVR to Standby, unplug it for a few minutes and power back on and attempt the update again. If the update fails to load, check the network environment (ie. reset the router, replace the router with a more current/robust model, or ideally wire directly to the router if connecting wirelessly) If still not having any luck with the update, perform a Network Reset as described in post 3 above. You may also want to consider purchasing a long (100'+) Cat5/6 cable for network updates only for a higher probability of a successful install.

You will be notified automatically when there is a firmware update when the AVR is turned ON as long as the Notification Update setting is set to ON (factory default). For more information refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Notifications -Update in the Owner's manual. To manually check for an update, refer to Setup - General - Firmware - Update - Check for Update.

(3) What is my unit's current firmware version? The current firmware version can be determined from the AVR's menu: Setup --> General --> Information --> Firmware Version.


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(1) The change log information above is provided as is, without any further explanation and only when I am able to obtain it. If the information listed above doesn't make sense, please don't ask for clarification, as I have none.
Thanks for the info, I have the 1608 and the only issue I have been having, is it will not hook up to the internet it gets hung up and nothing happens. I haven't done the update yet as I just read the above, but it seems way to complex when you go too the site. It should allow you to zip the file and or put it right on a USB drive, plug it on the front and bingo it updates. or is that just wishful thinking! Also how should the USB be formatted via MS DOS (FAT) or ExFAT if you have a Mac?

I am good now, I downloaded the file which had the instructions, I will give this a whirl tomorrow and hopefully it corrects the Network issue. Thanks again!

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Can you list the major differences/upgrades between the NR1608 and 1609?
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Can you list the major differences/upgrades between the NR1608 and 1609?
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This information is already provided in post 1 of this thread and post 3 of the 2017 Marantz Owner's thread.
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Should have a 8012 coming in a couple weeks. I'm wondering if one could use a aftermarket mic for better measurements or is the factory one good enough.
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Should have a 8012 coming in a couple weeks. I'm wondering if one could use a aftermarket mic for better measurements or is the factory one good enough.
If you plan on using Audyssey, you must use the Audyssey mic.

Note, this thread is for the new 2018 models. The SR8012 is a 2017 model with its own dedicated thread ---> https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...-s-thread.html
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If you plan on using Audyssey, you must use the Audyssey mic.

Note, this thread is for the new 2018 models. The SR8012 is a 2017 model with its own dedicated thread ---> https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...-s-thread.html
Sorry, thanks for the info. I guess the info would apply to 2017/2018.
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So, since the NR1609 will support AirPlay 2, would we expect to use Siri to ask "turn the Marantz Zone 2 ON"?

Wonder if the NR1608 will get AirPlay 2 support, since it's a software protocol that can be updated via firmware.
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