Originally Posted by Mark_Venture
Sorry, I need some more help... I'm struggling with the HDMI Passthru and ARC...
My setup is all HDMI video components (Sony UDP-X800 Bluray, FireTV Cube, and Comcast cable box) running into Pioneer Elite VSX-LX103, and out of the Pioneer to the Sony XBR65X900F TV.
I want to setup two actions/activities on my Harmony 665 remote. First being "Watch TV" which turns on only the cable box and TV, and uses the TV's internal speakers and the receiver's HDMI passthru function, which is fine for normal TV programs and such. The second being "Watch TV w/Surround" that would turn on the TV, Cable Box, and Receiver and use the Receiver and its speakers for when we want to watch movies or sports with surround sound.
With Bravia Sync on in the TV, and the Pioneer's HDMI options of HDMI CEC On, HDMI Standby Through Auto, ARC Auto, the receiver turns on anytime the TV does, and the TV detects the external audio and disables its speakers. In other words, this is fine for "watch TV w/surround" but doesn't work for "watch TV" (with the receiver off, using HDMI passthru).
If I turn off Bravia sync in the TV OR change the Pioneer's HDMI settings to HDMI CEC OFF, HDMI Standby CBL/SAT, the receiver stays off and passthru works for the "Watch TV" action. Unfortunately when Bravia Sync is off and I use "Watch TV w/Surround", the TV doesn't auto-detect that the receiver is powered on to turn off the TV's speakers for me (and I have to manually either volume down the TV, or use the TV menu to switch to external audio), so "Watch TV w/Surround" doesn't work well. Also, set with the receiver's HDMI CEC off, ARC doesn't work (ARC is needed for watching movies with the TV's built in Vudu app since the FireTV doesn't have one, and the UDP-X800's vudu app doesn't support UHD) .
Any tips on how I should set this up?
I have the same scenario that I would like help with.
Additionally, when CEC and ARC is on, when everything powers up, after a few seconds the LX103 auto changes to TV and the TV loses signal. As if the LX is sensing the TV input from ARC and auto-switching to that source when I want it on Cable/Sat.
Sorry for the long delay... but I have some updated info... I'm not sure IF there was an update to the LX103 that fixed this for me or what... but I did manage to get everything working except ARC. Its not as big of an issue because all the apps I find myself using exist on the Fire TV, so the TV's built in apps aren't as necessary..
Firmware i'm using is 1030-5000-1040-0010 (apparently there is a slightly newer revision on Pioneer's web site)
Connections to the Inputs of the LX103 are...
CBL/SAT - Comcast Cable Box
BD/DVD - Sony UBP-X800 Bluray/4K/3D Player
Strm Box - Amazon Fire TV Cube
All inputs on the receiver are set as HDCP2.2 under the receiver's System Setup -> Input/Output Assign -> HDMI Input Menu.
HDMI out of the LX103 is fed to HDMI 3(ARC) input of the Sony XBR65X900F 4K TV
On the receiver...
System Setup -> Hardware -> HDMI
HDMI CEC Off
HDMI Standby Through - CBL/SAT
Audio TV Out - OFF
Audio Return Channel (Grayed out)
Auto Delay - OFF
System Setup -> Hardware -> Power Management
Sleep Timer - OFF
Auto Standby - OFF
Auto Standby in HDMI Standby Through - (Grayed out)
Network Standby - OFF
Bluetooth Wakeup - OFF
On the TV.. Bravia Sync Settings are...
Bravia Sync control - ON
Device auto power off - OFF
TV auto power on - OFF
Device control keys - NONE
In this setup... With only the TV and Cable box turned on, the audio comes out the TV speakers. (I call this "watch tv" on my harmony remote)
When I select, "watch Tv with surround" the TV, Cable Box and Receiver turn on, receiver sets to CBL/SAT, and I get audio out the receiver only. When I select the options to watch the Fire TV or Bluray, the audio correctly comes out of the receiver.
If I want audio from the Youtube, Google Play Movies, FandangoNow or other apps built into the TV to play through the receiver, I must enable HDMI CEC on the receiver under System Setup -> Hardware -> HDMI, and adjust the Audio Return Channel setting. When done, I must turn it off.