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I am confused between RZ830 or RZ3100 ! the difference in the price is 165$ in my country!
i am using now l/r kef q550 (max 130w)- q650c (150w) - onkyo surround side/back 130 at 8 ohm onkyo subwoofer,
( 7.1 setup )

RZ830 produces 130 W of power through 8 ohms,,,,,,etc ( not sure )
RZ3100 produces 160 or 140 W of power through 8 ohms,,,,,etc ( not sure )
need help to decide please which one is better for the sound quality and the safety side for my current speakers and why better ,
thank you in advance ,,,
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Anyone know of a better thread to learn more about Accu-EQ in the Rz830 vs. the XT32 in the TX818? I see the RZ830 will ship on the 22nd but I am worried about the move to Accu-EQ and would love to hear from anyone with experience before I pre-order.
If you search on my name, I have posted numerous experiences on AccuEQ vs Audyssey. I have owned Audyssey, ARC, Dirac Live, and AccuEQ from most of the vendors higher-end product lines. I prefer AccuEQ over Audyssey by a wide margin.
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If you search on my name, I have posted numerous experiences on AccuEQ vs Audyssey. I have owned Audyssey, ARC, Dirac Live, and AccuEQ from most of the vendors higher-end product lines. I prefer AccuEQ over Audyssey by a wide margin.
Great, thanks I will take a search - also do you cover the AccuEQ that is in the new RZ830? I got the impression this was a newer/enhanced version??

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Great, thanks I will take a search - also do you cover the AccuEQ that is in the new RZ830? I got the impression this was a newer/enhanced version??
Sorry, I don't. I own an 1100.

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Just to put closure on my issue, I took my rz730 back to the shop and recreated the issue I was having in the B&W speakers they had there without any sources plugged in.

It seems some of these AVR have what I can only describe as a noisy hdmi board in the receiver.

Anyway I tested the only other new 730 they had in the shop and the hiss was only present from a very very high volume, and nowhere near as loud as my original one.

I now have this new version and I can no longer hear the hiss from MLP so I’m happy now.


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I can confirm your post. Had exactly the same problem. Hissing sounds from all the speakers on higher volumes. Took the unit back to the shop. They only had one other unit, same problem there. Gave the Onkyo back and bought an AVR from Denon. No problems there. Sorry Onkyo, but this is a no go. I would advise anyone which bought the rz730 to check if they have a hissing sound on higher volumes.
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I set up my RZ730 and do not have hissing at any volume.. Getting used to 5.1.4 from 5.1.2. I actually think that the sound is more like the Denon 930 (2017 model) I had for a few months last year vs the Onkyo 777 (2017 model) that this replaced.

It would be nice if they made the UI a little prettier or even different. Its the same as the Onkyo 646 (2015 model) that I also have. The GUI popup still reports 12bit color as 8bit for some reason.

It has the 3 position AutoEQ Advance.

I didn't have to manually set a delay for DV video out of my Oppo 203.
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Hi. I’m trying to decide between the RZ830 vs the RZ920. For those who’ve had receivers with both AccuEQ and AccuEQ Advanced is there a noticeable advantage with Advanced?
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Is the 830 released now - anyone know of any reviews?
Still can't find any reviews on the TX-RZ830 (formal or not), I expected to see something by now....

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Anyone know if Gapless Playback works with NAS source on these models? Manual is vague on this topic and mainly addresses Windows Media Player. Trying to find AVR with capability. I know Marantz and Denon does but boycotting them since app developer won’t fix accessibility issues with control apps.

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I am confused between RZ830 or RZ3100 ! the difference in the price is 165$ in my country!
i am using now l/r kef q550 (max 130w)- q650c (150w) - onkyo surround side/back 130 at 8 ohm onkyo subwoofer,
( 7.1 setup )

RZ830 produces 130 W of power through 8 ohms,,,,,,etc ( not sure )
RZ3100 produces 160 or 140 W of power through 8 ohms,,,,,etc ( not sure )
need help to decide please which one is better for the sound quality and the safety side for my current speakers and why better ,
thank you in advance ,,,
Same here, I just saw the RZ3100 had a big price drop so is now about the same as the Rz830 - is there something this new Rz830 has that the Rz3100 doesn't - not sure which to buy now!

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is there something this new Rz830 has that the Rz3100 doesn't - not sure which to buy now!
It has Accu EQ Advance room correction, for standing waves. The 3100 does not.

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Audioholics on YouTube just put up a review of the Integra DRX 4.2... which looks to be a TX-RZ830 twin. The Integra has a couple of minor additions (HDBaseT for one). Big takeaway is don't drive 4 ohm speakers with it...


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I went ahead and picked up a TX-RZ730.

Going to use it as mainly a pre-pro with 3x outlaw mono amps, an outlaw 5000 (5ch), and a class D 2x100 amp. Guess i'm using one channel off the receiver.

Only thing that irks me is that it looks like I have to use an external amp on the back surround on the 730 (correct me if i'm wrong). My 2x100 amp is stuck on the rear heights due to a digital audio long run cable, so it has to be run off an amp (the class D). Now i'm stuck sticking 2 channels on the outlaw 5000 on the rear surrounds, the most useless speakers of the bunch. ah well.

I'll give you all impressions, I'm coming off a yamaha 2060 w/ miniDSP for the subs.

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Anyone got the stones to start an official thread for these receivers? I've got plenty of input but I lack the overall time to be the OP.
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Does anyone have the Rz-830? is it comparable to the 820, 920 or Denon X4400h? Does it runs hot to the touch? How does it sound compared to what you are coming from?
Can anyone share there experience with the RZ 830 or RZ730. I cannot find any reviews online
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I went ahead and picked up a TX-RZ730.

Going to use it as mainly a pre-pro with 3x outlaw mono amps, an outlaw 5000 (5ch), and a class D 2x100 amp. Guess i'm using one channel off the receiver.

Only thing that irks me is that it looks like I have to use an external amp on the back surround on the 730 (correct me if i'm wrong). My 2x100 amp is stuck on the rear heights due to a digital audio long run cable, so it has to be run off an amp (the class D). Now i'm stuck sticking 2 channels on the outlaw 5000 on the rear surrounds, the most useless speakers of the bunch. ah well.

I'll give you all impressions, I'm coming off a yamaha 2060 w/ miniDSP for the subs.

This has been true and an idiosyncrasy of recent Onkyo AVRs. The only suggestion I can offer is...buy an inexpensive amp...i.e. Audiosource AMP100VS ($50-$70 used...$100 - $130 new). As you indicated, the rears have very little activity and demand.
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This has been true and an idiosyncrasy of recent Onkyo AVRs. The only suggestion I can offer is...buy an inexpensive amp...i.e. Audiosource AMP100VS ($50-$70 used...$100 - $130 new). As you indicated, the rears have very little activity and demand.
Thanks for verifying. I ended up putting one speaker (front height left) on the onkyo. I'm 100% HT use, haven't noticed any 'discoloration' in sound using a different amp up there.
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Well Onkyo just offered me a trade in of my TX-NR818 for the TX-RZ830 at 50% discount, so I took the offer!! I should have the new unit by the weekend so I will get it setup and report back on the initial setup and how it compares to my NR818. If anyone has questions about it I will do my best, I'm not a pro reviewer

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Well Onkyo just offered me a trade in of my TX-NR818 for the TX-RZ830 at 50% discount, so I took the offer!! I should have the new unit by the weekend so I will get it setup and report back on the initial setup and how it compares to my NR818. If anyone has questions about it I will do my best, I'm not a pro reviewer
Just added the extra two ceiling speakers so I now have 5.2.4 with my new RZ830 and OMG is sounds amazing - so much better than the NR818, I am very happy with this new model. My theater has come alive with a new lease of life, it just sounds soooo much better, can't recommend enough.
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Just added the extra two ceiling speakers so I now have 5.2.4 with my new RZ830 and OMG is sounds amazing - so much better than the NR818, I am very happy with this new model. My theater has come alive with a new lease of life, it just sounds soooo much better, can't recommend enough.

Congrats! Not only do Atmos and DTS:X titles add to the immersive experience but both upmixers (DSU and Neural:X) will give "new life" to all your standard DVD and BluRay titles...try them. Also, it's time to edit your signature to reflect the 830!

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Congrats! Not only do Atmos and DTS:X titles add to the immersive experience but both upmixers (DSU and Neural:X) will give "new life" to all your standard DVD and BluRay titles...try them. Also, it's time to edit your signature to reflect the 830!
Yes for sure, time to rewatch all my movies :-P it really does make such an improvement. I was so worried about losing Audyssey, and for no reason at all in the end!!!

Trying to update my sig but the system keeps telling me its now too long, even though I didn't add any more characters!
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Yes for sure, time to rewatch all my movies :-P it really does make such an improvement. I was so worried about losing Audyssey, and for no reason at all in the end!!!

Trying to update my sig but the system keeps telling me its now too long, even though I didn't add any more characters!

Many of us have come from Audyssey backgrounds...either from classic Onkyo products or D+M products. Along with our familiarity and aided by marketing hype, many have come to believe it's not possible to live without Audyssey. In truth, the effectiveness of all Room Correction systems is highly dependent on a room's acoustics, speakers, and our personal tastes and preferences. In my room, I turn RC completely off...and when in use...I prefer AccuEQ over Audyssey.

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There does not appear to be an owner's thread for this series, so I hope it is ok posting my question here.

I recently added the TX-RZ830 and have it installed in a media cabinet that is open in the front and rear, but enclosed on the sides where the AVR sits.

I noticed this weekend after having it running the entire day(watching sports and movies)...by the early evening, I had to increase the volume higher in order to hear. It had been at the same level all day (about -35db)...but by the end of the day I had to boost it up to -20db/-15db to hear it at the same level. It also sounded a little muffled to me.(that may have been my imagination though)

Would anyone know if this is possibly due to the AVR going into a safety mode for not getting enough ventilation? There is a section in the manual that states the volume will reduce if a certain temperature is reached. But the unit itself really wasn't hot when I touched it.

Just trying to make sure I don't have a faulty unit. Everything else is perfect. (well, it was before I had to turn the volume up).

Would like to know if anyone else has experienced this.

Thank you.
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There does not appear to be an owner's thread for this series, so I hope it is ok posting my question here.

This thread is an informational "announcement" thread posted by Mark Henninger (imagic)...a longtime AVS editor. Posting your question here is fine since there is yet no "official" owner's thread. You or anyone else can start an "official owner's" thread if you feel so inclined. Otherwise, this one is likely to become the de facto/default thread for this AVR series.


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I recently added the TX-RZ830 and have it installed in a media cabinet that is open in the front and rear, but enclosed on the sides where the AVR sits.

Even though open in the front and rear, it still may be necessary to provide the minimum clearing distances at the sides and top for adequate ventilation. If these clearances are not met, most owners add fans to avoid any possible heat related issues.

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I noticed this weekend after having it running the entire day(watching sports and movies)...by the early evening, I had to increase the volume higher in order to hear. It had been at the same level all day (about -35db)...but by the end of the day I had to boost it up to -20db/-15db to hear it at the same level. It also sounded a little muffled to me.(that may have been my imagination though)

Would anyone know if this is possibly due to the AVR going into a safety mode for not getting enough ventilation? There is a section in the manual that states the volume will reduce if a certain temperature is reached. But the unit itself really wasn't hot when I touched it.

I think you've answered your own question...but to confirm, my recommendations would be (1) if you are unable to increase clearances, provide additional ventilation with fans and (2) consult with Onkyo in the Onkyo support forum or by calling Onkyo support directly to determine next steps.


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Just trying to make sure I don't have a faulty unit. Everything else is perfect. (well, it was before I had to turn the volume up).

Calling Onkyo support would establish a "time marker" should it proved to be defective down the line. Good luck!

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This thread is an informational "announcement" thread posted by Mark Henninger (imagic)...a longtime AVS editor. Posting your question here is fine since there is yet no "official" owner's thread. You or anyone else can start an "official owner's" thread if you feel so inclined. Otherwise, this one is likely to become the de facto/default thread for this AVR series.





Even though open in the front and rear, it still may be necessary to provide the minimum clearing distances at the sides and top for adequate ventilation. If these clearances are not met, most owners add fans to avoid any possible heat related issues.

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I think you've answered your own question...but to confirm, my recommendations would be (1) if you are unable to increase clearances, provide additional ventilation with fans and (2) consult with Onkyo in the Onkyo support forum or by calling Onkyo support directly to determine next steps.





Calling Onkyo support would establish a "time marker" should it proved to be defective down the line. Good luck!
gene4ht, thank you for the feedback.

I researched the fan you posted and have gone ahead and ordered one.

Good advice about contacting Onkyo support, so they have me on record.

I'll chime back in(here or in a new Owners thread) once I receive the fan and do some testing.
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gene4ht, thank you for the feedback.

I researched the fan you posted and have gone ahead and ordered one.

Good advice about contacting Onkyo support, so they have me on record.

I'll chime back in(here or in a new Owners thread) once I receive the fan and do some testing.
I just added one of those fan units last week for my 818 not is been reused in another room and the fan unit works great!!

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I just added one of those fan units last week for my 818 not is been reused in another room and the fan unit works great!!
I've had the fan installed for 3 days now. It does seem to work great.
I also added one of the individual airplate fans and attached it to my cabinet.

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I have a question about the 730/830 which I believe are both identical except for power output?

Can I reach a 7.1.4 atmos setup by externally amplifying the front Left and Right speakers on these units? On the Denon x4300H you can seperately amp the front left and right and achieve 7.1.4 but these appear like they are laid out so that you can only reach 7.1.4 if you externally amplify the surround back or heights?

I have an offer for trade in rebate for my broken tx-nr809 and im considering one of these units, but im aiming for 7.1.4 and this would be a deal breaker for me, but I really don't want to move to denon to get this functionality, any suggestions? Is it possible to set the "rear or height" channel to rears and then amp assign front L/R to be height 2 L/R or something of that sort? (I know its a long shot)

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Debating between the RZ830 and the NR787. I've got a very large room (5000 sqft) to fill and thinking to extra power in the 830 would help. Comming from an Onkyo SR805. Any thoughts on how to compare and why to move up to RZ rather than NR

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