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it does look better but my industrial designer eyes might be able to deal. if I care about the extra Watts, that's what outboard amps are for... And my vertical height is limited. 730 ordered!
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I just ordered the 830 for $640 total but sounds like it has been cheaper than this before? If so, where at... thanks!

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I just ordered the 830 for $640 total but sounds like it has been cheaper than this before? If so, where at... thanks!
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I just ordered the 830 for $640 total but sounds like it has been cheaper than this before? If so, where at... thanks!
I just got mine delivered yesterday. I got it from A4L as a factory refurb for $550 so not as good as the Onkyo direct deal a couple weeks ago but too good to pass up. I have has good luck with my factory refurb NR1008 that I bought in 2011 which is still working to this day without a single issue so I am hoping I have the same luck with my factory refurb RZ830. Hoping to hook it up this weekend and give it a whirl.

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Keep us posted! Everyone is looking for answers and I have already seen a few people anxiously adding the rz830 to their cart at AC4L waiting for someone to say its the greatest receiver ever under $1k, me included! LOL

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Ordered an 830 from AC4L yesterday .Its replacing a Marantz 5007 I purchased from them 5 or 6 years thats still working well. Delivery is scheduled for Friday so should have most of the weekend to play with it
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Question: I just realized since the 830 doesn't have Audyssey, it also doesn't have the Audyssey EQ or Dynamic Vol options either? If that's the case, are there other options for watching movies at low volumes and still get all the sound like Dynamic Vol at Light or Medium did? TY!

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Question: I just realized since the 830 doesn't have Audyssey, it also doesn't have the Audyssey EQ or Dynamic Vol options either? If that's the case, are there other options for watching movies at low volumes and still get all the sound like Dynamic Vol at Light or Medium did? TY!
Onkyo hasn't had Audyssey for years and have developed their own EQ which mirrors those functions.

AccuEQ = Audyssey EQ
AccuEQ Advance = Standing Wave Elimination
AccuReflex = Phase-Matching Solution for Dolby Atmos®-enabled Systems
THX Loudness Plus = compensates for the tonal and spatial shifts that occur when the volume level is reduced, by intelligently adjusting the levels of the surround channels and their frequency response in the environment.

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AccuEQ Room Calibration: Enable or disable the equalizer function that
corrects for sound distortion caused by the acoustic environment of the room.
To enable this setting, normally select "On (All Ch)", and to disable only the front
speakers, select "On (ex. L/R)". The setting can be set for each input.
Equalizer: Select "Preset 1" to "Preset 3" configured in "2. Speaker" - "Equalizer
Settings" in the Setup menu. When this is set to "Off", the same sound field
setting is applied to all ranges.
EQ for Standing Wave : Setting this "On" will control the effect of the standing
wave generated by the sound wave reflected by wall or similar interfering with the
original sound wave.
Re-EQ, Re-EQ(THX): Adjusts the soundtrack with the enhanced high range so
that it suits a home theater.
In Re-EQ, the following listening modes can be used: Dolby Audio - DD, Dolby
Audio - DD+, Dolby Audio - DSur, Dolby Audio - TrueHD, Multichannel, DTS,
DTS-ES, DTS 96/24, DTS-HD High Resolution Audio, DTS-HD Master Audio,
DTS Neural:X, DTS Express and DSD.
In Re-EQ(THX), the following listening modes can be used:
THX Cinema and THX Select Cinema.
• It cannot be set if the listening mode is Pure Audio or Direct.
„ Other
A/V Sync: If the video is behind the audio, you can delay the audio to offset the
gap. The setting can be set for each input.
• It cannot be set if the listening mode is Pure Audio or Direct.
Music Optimizer: Improve the quality of the compressed audio. Playback sound
of lossy compressed files such as MP3 will be improved. The setting can be set
for each input. This works in signals whose sampling frequencies are 48 kHz or
less. The setting is not effective in the bitstream signals.
• It cannot be set if the listening mode is Pure Audio or Direct.
Late Night: Enable small sounds to be easily heard in detail. It is useful when
you need to reduce the volume while watching a movie late night. You can enjoy
the effect only when playing the Dolby series and DTS series input signals.
• This function cannot be used in the following cases.
– When playing Dolby Digital Plus or Dolby TrueHD with "Loudness
Management" set to "Off"
– When the input signal is DTS:X, and "Dialog Control" is not 0 dB
Center Spread: Adjust the width of the sound field of the front channel when
playing in the Dolby Audio - DSur listening mode. To spread the width of the
sound field to the right and left, set to "On". To concentrate the sound in the
center, set to "Off".
• Depending on the speaker settings, "Off" is applied.
Dialog Control: You can increase the volume of dialog portion of the audio up to
6 dB by 1 dB step so that you can hear the dialog easily in noisy atmosphere.
• This cannot be set for content other than DTS:X.
• Depending on the content, this function may not be selected.
HDMI Out: Select the HDMI OUT jack to output video signals from "MAIN",
"SUB", and "MAIN+SUB".


THX Loudness Plus

Loudness Plus On When this is set to "On", you can enjoy even subtle
nuances of audio expression at low volume. This
is only available when the THX listening mode is
selected.
THX Loudness Plus
THX Loudness Plus is a new volume control
technology mounted on THX Ultra and THX Selectcertified receivers.
With THX Loudness Plus, home theater audience
can experience the rich details of surround sound
at any volume level.
If the volume is turned down below the reference
level, elements of sound in a certain range are lost
or the sound is perceived differently by the listener.
THX Loudness Plus compensates for the tonal and
spatial shifts that occur when the volume level is
reduced, by intelligently adjusting the levels of the
surround channels and their frequency response in
the environment.
This enables users to experience the true impact
of soundtracks regardless of the volume setting.
THX Loudness Plus is automatically applied when
listening in any THX listening mode. In the newly
developed THX Cinema, THX Music and THX
Games modes, the optimum THX Loudness Plus
setting is applied according to the type of content

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Keep us posted! Everyone is looking for answers and I have already seen a few people anxiously adding the rz830 to their cart at AC4L waiting for someone to say its the greatest receiver ever under $1k, me included! LOL

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If anyone's looking for one, B and H has them new for $599 free shipping and no tax. New has the 3 year warranty whereas refurbs only have 1 year
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If anyone's looking for one, B and H has them new for $599 free shipping and no tax. New has the 3 year warranty whereas refurbs only have 1 year
Got one from Greentoe. I offered $399 and got counteroffer for $500 + tax no shipping from Acoustic sound design. It is brand new and comes with 3 year warranty FYI
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Got one from Greentoe. I offered $399 and got counteroffer for $500 + tax no shipping from Acoustic sound design. It is brand new and comes with 3 year warranty FYI
Yep...Acoustic Sound Design is an authorized dealer and typically more competitive than most...but you must look beyond their website and call for their most aggressive pricing.

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I took advantage of the B&H deal yesterday, but will be keeping an eye out for a better deal to price protect (ordered with a Costco visa). I am upgrading from a TX-NR708 and am looking forward to this (pairing it with an OLED65C7P). Just snagged four Jamo ceiling speakers from Frys this afternoon for my Atmos setup.
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I got an 830 as the replacement for a faulty 818. Is there a built in Bluetooth transmitter for headphones or only a receiver for streaming audio? My wife wants to hook up wireless headphones for her exercise room but I can't find instructions in the manual.

Should I assume an external transmitter is required? What is the optimal configuration? Plugged into the headphone jack on front or an audio out on back? Any recommendations?
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I got an 830 as the replacement for a faulty 818. Is there a built in Bluetooth transmitter for headphones or only a receiver for streaming audio? My wife wants to hook up wireless headphones for her exercise room but I can't find instructions in the manual.

Should I assume an external transmitter is required? What is the optimal configuration? Plugged into the headphone jack on front or an audio out on back? Any recommendations?

You'll need a bluetooth transmitter. Get one with RCA inputs and configure it as Zone 2 -- that way you can transmit anything you want independently of the main audio. For example your wife could listen to Spotify over the Bluetooth transmitter on Zone 2 while you watch a movie on the main zone. Note that there are some limitations to what channels are available when you're running multichannel audio -- check the owner's manual.
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Is there any way to save level settings for different inputs on these receivers? The center and sub can be accessed on the quick menu on the nr787 , but then it carries over to all inputs. If you want to adjust the rears or tops you have to go into the test tone level adjust. Then have to change it back on a different input. Really annoying. Hope I'm missing something. Thanks for any help
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Is there any way to save level settings for different inputs on these receivers? The center and sub can be accessed on the quick menu on the nr787 , but then it carries over to all inputs. If you want to adjust the rears or tops you have to go into the test tone level adjust. Then have to change it back on a different input. Really annoying. Hope I'm missing something. Thanks for any help
Why would you need to do that? Are there sources that have wildly variable signals for said channels? Trim levels are generally determined by distance so even is source levels change the trim level should generally stay the same.

Mainly asking in case there's something else going on.
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Why would you need to do that? Are there sources that have wildly variable signals for said channels? Trim levels are generally determined by distance so even is source levels change the trim level should generally stay the same.

Mainly asking in case there's something else going on.
Nothing weird going on, I just like to turn my surround speakers down a bit on music. And on cable the bass is sometimes a bit louder than needed. A trim level for all channel is offered on most Denon receivers. It also saves per input, without having to go into the test tone main level calibration settings. Very useful for me since I work nights, and the kids watch cable,when I'm sleeping, so I just turn the subwoofer trim down on the cable input
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Anyone getting a humming noise from the speakers that gets louder as the volume goes up? Almost sounds like a ground loop hum. It's present on almost all settings except for direct. I noticed it when the volume was at -12 and then paused the movie for some reason, and it's clearly audible from across the room. I found a couple other threads talking about the 787 doing this. Just curious if the rz line does this as well
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Anyone getting a humming noise from the speakers that gets louder as the volume goes up? Almost sounds like a ground loop hum. It's present on almost all settings except for direct. I noticed it when the volume was at -12 and then paused the movie for some reason, and it's clearly audible from across the room. I found a couple other threads talking about the 787 doing this. Just curious if the rz line does this as well
Disconnect your coaxial cable line from your cable box (or satellite box) and see if you still have it.
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Disconnect your coaxial cable line from your cable box (or satellite box) and see if you still have it.
Yeah, it's the same. But guess I described the noise wrong. It's more like a hissing noise than a hum. Like some pro audio amps do when the gain is turned up high. Stereo or direct is dead silent. Dolby surround and Dolby Atmos you can clearly hear it if the scene is paused and dts neural x is even louder. I almost think I can hear it on content with dtx neural, But not quite sure yet. 787 is going back either way and I'm thinking about getting the rz 830. Was just curious if rz owners heard the noise as well

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Onkyo tx-rz730 owners

This things have come way down in price. I'm looking to upgrade. How to you like yours? Any major issues or complaints?
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This things have come way down in price. I'm looking to upgrade. How to you like yours? Any major issues or complaints?
I just got the 830. Working perfectly. No HDMI handshake issues or anything. But the Accu eq advanced isn't doing much for my subs. Actually not doing much of anything. Measured with r.e.w. and was not impressed. The frequency response was basically exactly the the same, except it lowered it by 1 db below 500 hz. I mean the the before and after are carbon copies. Same exact peaks and same dips. Will try to run it again tomorrow. Most the reviews say Accu eq advanced does a pretty good job. Coming from x32 I wasn't expecting it to compare, but it does pretty much nothing in my room. Ran it twice with the same result. Gonna try a bit different mic placement tomorrow and hope for some sort of result. But besides the Accu eq, I like it so far.
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Don't think it was mentioned and I almost pulled the trigger but I am currently 7.2 and wanted to add 4 ceiling atmos speakers so this receiver would require another amp for the rear height zone correct? So I really need 11.2 or an external amp which I would rather not do. I thought the Onkyo line was almost too good to be true in price. An external amp is still cheaper but I would rather not fuss with that and keep everything simpler. Any 11.2 thoughts under 1k?

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Don't think it was mentioned and I almost pulled the trigger but I am currently 7.2 and wanted to add 4 ceiling atmos speakers so this receiver would require another amp for the rear height zone correct? So I really need 11.2 or an external amp which I would rather not do. I thought the Onkyo line was almost too good to be true in price. An external amp is still cheaper but I would rather not fuss with that and keep everything simpler. Any 11.2 thoughts under 1k?
The only single box solutions with 11 channel (7.1.4) capability are over $1000 at this time...i.e. refurb offerings from Accessories4Less...i.e. Denon X6400H or Onkyo's RZ3100. Perhaps you could check CL or eBay for better deals but then quality could be an issue. As you've already noted, 9 channel (5.1.4) AVR's with 11 channel pre-outs + an inexpensive ($100) external 2 channel amp is a very reasonable and less costly solution. Your other option if you indeed want a single box solution is to opt for a 9 channel solution (5.1.4) and forego the rear channels...many find this acceptable as the rear surrounds typically contain less content than the side surrounds.

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T Your other option if you indeed want a single box solution is to opt for a 9 channel solution (5.1.4) and forego the rear channels...many find this acceptable as the rear surrounds typically contain less content than the side surrounds.
I am not quite following this. There is an option on 5.1.4 setup to use side and not rear surrounds? I don't see that option on Dolby setup page. https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/do...-4-setups.html Just asking because this might be easier for me to set up. In my case the rears would need to be placed something like 15' behind me, so I may rather do the sides, and didn't know that was even an option for 5.1.4
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I am not quite following this. There is an option on 5.1.4 setup to use side and not rear surrounds? I don't see that option on Dolby setup page. https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/do...-4-setups.html Just asking because this might be easier for me to set up. In my case the rears would need to be placed something like 15' behind me, so I may rather do the sides, and didn't know that was even an option for 5.1.4
I just finished my 5.1.4 setup myself (actually uses two subs).



First go to Page 13 of the manual.



Then go to page 24.


Then page 53.


Then page 58.


Here's the link to the manual


http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/own_manuals/en.pdf
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I am not quite following this. There is an option on 5.1.4 setup to use side and not rear surrounds? I don't see that option on Dolby setup page. https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/do...-4-setups.html Just asking because this might be easier for me to set up. In my case the rears would need to be placed something like 15' behind me, so I may rather do the sides, and didn't know that was even an option for 5.1.4
Yes...just designate the surrounds as left and right surrounds and no rear/back surrounds during setup. In terms of actual or physical placement, as the 5.1.4 Dolby diagram suggests, experiment with adjacent to or slightly behind (90-120 degrees) the MLP. Seasoned Atmos users have found that Atmos is very forgiving and hard to get wrong...feel free to experiment with surround speaker placement until it sounds good/right/accurate to you using familiar material. Depending on a particular room’s properties and acoustics, some have found that placing side surrounds slightly forward (80 degrees) of the MLP yielded the best results. In any case, Dolby’s guidelines are only guidelines and some deviation is sometimes necessary...experimentation is always the key!

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/do...-4-setups.html

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I just finished my 5.1.4 setup myself (actually uses two subs).



First go to Page 13 of the manual.



Then go to page 24.


Then page 53.


Then page 58.


Here's the link to the manual


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OK. But like it shows on page 53. I would not call those speaker #4 and 5 as side surrounds. They are quite a bit behind you. The page right before it, page 52, in a 7.1.2 configuration, shows 4 and 5 to the side. That is what I was asking. Does 5.1.4 have a set up for when the two are to the side instead of behind you. I don't think so. I am not saying it won't work, just that it doesn't appear to be in the Atmos setup options and am not sure how the sound will work out when the speakers are actually at your side instead of behind (and toward you from the side). I realize Atmos can be a bit forgiving and we can't have the perfect set up.
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Yes...just designate the surrounds as left and right surrounds and no rear/back surrounds during setup. In terms of actual or physical placement, as the 5.1.4 Dolby diagram suggests, experiment with adjacent to or slightly behind (90-120 degrees) the MLP. Seasoned Atmos users have found that Atmos is very forgiving and hard to get wrong...feel free to experiment with surround speaker placement until it sounds good/right/accurate to you using familiar material. Depending on a particular room’s properties and acoustics, some have found that placing side surrounds slightly forward (80 degrees) of the MLP yielded the best results. In any case, Dolby’s guidelines are only guidelines and some deviation is sometimes necessary...experimentation is always the key!

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/do...-4-setups.html
Good to know those rear speakers from the diagram might actually work out being to the side, or even a bit in front. Mine may need to be in front, though I was thinking doing in wall and the ones I have now aren't directed. I might look for some in wall speakers if I can find them that can be pointed at an angle, because my one side would need to be in front, and therefore would want to point the other one toward the front as well. I will experiment around. Thanks.
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I just got the 830. Working perfectly. No HDMI handshake issues or anything. But the Accu eq advanced isn't doing much for my subs. Actually not doing much of anything. Measured with r.e.w. and was not impressed. The frequency response was basically exactly the the same, except it lowered it by 1 db below 500 hz. I mean the the before and after are carbon copies. Same exact peaks and same dips. Will try to run it again tomorrow. Most the reviews say Accu eq advanced does a pretty good job. Coming from x32 I wasn't expecting it to compare, but it does pretty much nothing in my room. Ran it twice with the same result. Gonna try a bit different mic placement tomorrow and hope for some sort of result. But besides the Accu eq, I like it so far.
isnt the SW high end about 100 or 80 Hz?
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