Originally Posted by richlife
Makes sense to me especially the HDMI 2.1 part. I still think it will be very interesting what models/features come out then. I wonder if it will still be the Aventage line? Not looking for an answer -- suspect that's Yamaha trade secret.
But btw, do you happen to know if the 3080 Enhanced DSP will handle DTS tracks? I'm just setting out to see if Dolby is trying to go beyond their own DSU exclusion of DTS. (Always willing to take the easy way out and get an answer from "one who knows".
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie
No, rather that would be better answered by a A3080 owner.
Ok, would be good to know. My searches came us with the basic info as it was released by Dolby in May 2018. Maybe, kinda, sorta answers some of my question partially, but still would like to have a verified answer from a A3080 owner as you said. (And xx80 owners may want to be selective about applying firmware updates if this matters to them.)
I've extracted the key information on the subject from this article. So far have not found anything further so, for now, it remains an open question. Very interesting article though. (I added bold
to one paragraph.)
Gene DellaSala — May 30, 2018
He brings up this reference: [everything here quoted from the article -- for the complete content, see the link above]
...new Dolby mandate that restricts how you will be able to upmix native Dolby content that will take effect on all NEW Atmos-based products (ie. receivers, processors and soundbars) coming in 2019 and current 2018 products that are able to receive firmware updates.
Dolby Changes The Game With Mandate To All Licensing Partners
Native Dolby Atmos content shall NOT be up-mixed, surround or height virtualized by any 3rd party competitor upmixer (ie. DTS or Auro-3D).
Channel-Based DD/DD+, Dolby TrueHD 5.1 and 7.1 codecs shall not be height virtualized by any 3rd party upmixer (ie. DTS). (This implies height virtualization without height speakers. DTS has this capability but Auro-3D does not).
Note: This includes carry over devices from previous years in CY 2018.
Interestingly, Dolby will permit 3rd party upmixing and/or surround virtualization of channel-based codecs that support Dolby Atmos rendering as long as the 3rd party doesn't license their own upmixing technologies to 3rd parties. In other words, you can't upmix a Dolby signal with a DTS:X or Auro-Matic upmixer but if you own a Yamaha receiver or Logic7-based Harman processor, you can still overlay their proprietary DSP over a Dolby signal.
Note: Maintaining native format and upmixing is something that has always been in the Dolby guidelines for licensees, but apparently never enforced until now.
Why is Dolby Issuing this Mandate to its licensees?
I believe Dolby maybe enforcing it in future products that bear its logo for two reasons:
Control quality of content so that their upmixer is only used with their software.
Put an end to Auro-3D and strike a blow to DTS.
Dolby lost the audio battle to DTS with Blu-ray and may be taking a different, more aggressive stance with their current lead in 4K/UltraHD Blu-ray.
But that begs another question: If Dolby truly wants to maintain quality control, why would they still allow 3rd party DSP overlay of their signals which can potentially do more harm than having a competitor codec do the upmixing? Dolby is either being extremely generous to its licensee partners by allowing them to offer processing enhancements to increase the appeal of their products or they really want to win the no-win scenario by changing the conditions of the test - eliminate the competition.