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The "Official" Yamaha RX-A3080, RX-A2080 and RX-A1080 AVENTAGE AVR Thread




RX-A3080

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Born from Engineering Performance. Our flagship 9.2-channel (11.2-ch processing)
AV receiver was bred for versatility and engineering performance with two ESS SABRE™ DACs (one ES9007S and one ES9026PRO),
seven HDMI inputs, three HDMI outputs, Dolby Atmos® and DTS:X™, Multi-Zone functionality,
Phono input, Wi-Fi®, YPAO™ with Precision EQ and much more.

9.2-ch with (11.2-channel processing, 2-channel XLR) Dolby Atmos, DTS:X and CINEMA DSP HD3 with Zone 2/3/4
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth®, AirPlay®, Spotify Connect and MusicCast multi-room
New Surround:AI™ technology automatically optimizes the sound in real-time
HDMI with HDCP 2.2 (7-in/3-out)
4K Ultra HD support, HDR10, Dolby Vision™, Hybrid Log-Gamma and BT.2020
ESS SABRE PRO ES9026PRO Ultra DAC and SABRE ES9007S DAC for high performance conversion
Pandora®, Spotify, SiriusXM Internet Radio, TIDAL, Deezer, Napster and more
YPAO R.S.C., Multipoint, 3D and Precision EQ
Voice control using your Alexa device like Echo or Echo Dot
Phono Input

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RX-A2080

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RX-A2080 AVENTAGE 9.2-Channel AV Receiver with MusicCast New

Unbridled Performance and Function. This 9.2-channel AV receiver harnesses dual ESS SABRE™ DACs,
seven HDMI inputs, three HDMI outputs, Dolby Atmos® and DTS:X™, Multi-Zone functionality,
Phono input, Wi-Fi®, YPAO™ with Precision EQ and much more.

9.2-ch Dolby Atmos, DTS:X (7.2.2-ch or 5.2.4-ch) and CINEMA DSP HD3 with Zone 2/3/4
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth®, AirPlay®, Spotify Connect and MusicCast multi-room
New Surround:AI™ technology automatically optimizes the sound in real-time
4K Ultra HD support, HDR10, Dolby Vision™, Hybrid Log-Gamma and BT.2020
HDMI with HDCP 2.2 (7 in/3 out)
Dual ESS SABRE ES9007S Premier Audio DACs for high performance conversion
Pandora®, Spotify, SiriusXM Internet Radio, TIDAL, Deezer, Napster and more
YPAO R.S.C., multipoint, 3D and precision EQ
Voice control using your Alexa device like Echo or Echo Dot
Phono input

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RX-A1080

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Architected for Performance. Constructed for performance, this 7.2-channel AV receiver
features an ESS SABRE™ DAC, seven HDMI inputs, three HDMI outputs, Dolby Atmos® and DTS:X™,
Zone 2 function, Phono input, Wi-Fi®, YPAO™ with Precision EQ and much more.

7.2-ch Dolby Atmos, DTS:X (5.2.2-ch) and CINEMA DSP HD3
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth®, AirPlay®, Spotify Connect and MusicCast multi-room
New Surround:AI™ technology automatically optimizes the sound in real-time
Pandora®, Spotify, SiriusXM Internet Radio, TIDAL, Deezer, Napster and more
4K Ultra HD, HDR10, Dolby Vision™, Hybrid Log-Gamma and BT.2020
HDMI with HDCP 2.2 (7 in/3 out)
ESS SABRE ES9007S Premier Audio DAC for high performance conversion
YPAO R.S.C., multipoint and precision EQ
Voice control using your Alexa device like Echo or Echo Dot
Phono input

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The Biggest change in 2018 is the addition of Surround Artificial Intelligence (AKA Sound AI)





2018 updates vs 2017 Aventage Models:

  • Surround Artificial Intellegence
  • Wireless Multi-Cast Surround
  • 1-More HDMI Output (Zone 2) for 3 Total
  • 2-XLR Pre-Outs (Front L/R Speakers)
  • New Back-Lit remote, with 8 Scene buttons
  • Bluetooth version 4.2 (receiver only)
  • 5.8Ghz WiFi support added
  • Improved GUI (?)

Removed from 2017 Models:

  • 1-HMDI input from Front Panel (absent on 2018 models)
  • Number of Scenes reduced from 12 to 8 (4 less on 2018 models)
  • Bluetooth V2.1 Receiver and Transmitter (Transmitter eliminated on 2018 models)
  • Up-Mixing of Dolby Digital, DD+ and TrueHD will be limited to Dolby Surround (or a Yamaha DSP mode) on New 2018 models
    (2017 models can still use Neural:X Up-Mixer on any sound format, up to 7.1.4)

2017 Aventage Remote (Left) 2018 Aventage Remote (Right)



3rd HDMI Out (New for 2018)



Rear Panel changes



Hidden Front panel changes (HDMI IN *Gone*)



So the HDMI IN count drops from 8 to 7, and they provide on extra HDMI Out instead.

I found the front HDMI access very handy to hook up a Laptop to run a quick REW sweep
or for a quick temporary hookup to an HDMI capable Camcorder/GoPro without pulling the AVR out of the rack.




....more to be added as I get time

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Using a post to what has been "added" and also as important --what has been "subtracted" from the XX70 models would be a great thing.
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You probably want to get thread's combined as we already have a master thread >>>> Click Here <<<<
That's not exactly how it works,

That was simply a 2018 general anticipation thread started in March, not an "Official" Thread, not a "master thread"
It contained a lot of speculative info/opinions regarding not only AVR's, but also Pre/Pro's and Amplifiers (too much in one thread for a useful search of current/correct information)
and there has already been an Aventage RX-A880, 780, 680 "Official" thread started...

Here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...rs-thread.html

It's typical to group the higher end Yamaha A models together as they usually have a similar Feature set.
The next tier down gets their own thread (as shown), This has been the way Yamaha Threads have been posted for the past 8 model years.

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Mysteriously Missing from the 2018 User Manuals: Web Control Center
I'm not sure why it was not included, but I have heard it still works on the new 2018's, perhaps somewhat more limited though

Here's the instructions from the 2017 RX-A3070/2070 manual to access the app from a laptop via wifi router:









You can save as many backup files/speaker configurations and YPAO settings as your laptop can hold,
just make sure you name them appropriately in a file folder named for quick access.




**Now to go one step further, that worked on the Previous Generation Yamaha's (Yet to be confirmed on the 2018 Models)
If you enter "/Setup" after your Yamaha's IP in your browsers address bar, You get every possible setting in your AVR
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How to Find your AVR's IP address (after you have it setup on your Network)
Instructions Here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post55269990

...a few screen shots of my laptop from my Old RX-A3050:





Once I get more information/confirmation I will update the first reserved spot


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Web Control on my RX-A2080 only allows me to change certain settings on the receiver. It is extremely limited and doesn't look like the above at all, so apparently Yamaha severely scaled it back for this model year. WHY???

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Web Control on my RX-A2080 only allows me to change certain settings on the receiver. It is extremely limited and doesn't look like the above at all, so apparently Yamaha severely scaled it back for this model year. WHY???
Wow, that's extremely disappointing
(as a long time Yamaha user (4 decades), and notorious settings tweeker)
Maybe that's why its been omitted from the new 2018 user manuals

Setting your own PEQ values was a breeze with the web controller interface,
I sure hope Yamaha doesn't do that to the their 2018 Flagship CX-A5200 Pre/Pro too ...

As many know, YPAO is notoriously weak when it comes to Sub EQ, only 4 Bands of Sub EQ and limited to >31.3Hz
and many turn to a better mic like a UMIK-1/Omni Mic and use REW to make manual PEQ corrections down to 16Hz
Some even turn to an external DSP like miniDSP/Antimode for multiple sub configurations. (Guilty on all counts!)

Can you access this menu?


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Here's the landing page. Not much there...
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Here's the landing page. Not much there...

Where does "Advanced Settings" take you?
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Where does "Advanced Settings" take you?
X2!

I wish I had one to test,

But when I saw the changes coming down the pipe,
I abandoned my old RX-A3050 to pickup a Hugely discounted (-$600) RX-A3070 instead

The only thing really missing on the 3050 for me was Dolby Vision,
The RX-A3070 better last me for the next 5-6 years...well after the dust settles on HDMI 2.1


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X2!

I wish I had one to test,

But when I saw the changes coming down the pipe,
I abandoned my old RX-A3050 to pickup a Hugely discounted (-$600) RX-A3070 instead

The only thing really missing on the 3050 for me was Dolby Vision,
The RX-A3070 better last me for the next 5-6 years...well after the dust settles on HDMI 2.1


ha! that very well could be 5-6 years!
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Where does "Advanced Settings" take you?
Not very far...
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Not very far...

What about the "Web Settings"? It looks like it can still drill down further... Or does it just take you back to the main screen you showed previously?
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Nope. Web Settings takes you right back to the landing page.

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What is it with this removing useful features trend amongst AVR manufacturers? D&M has done it with Denons as well.

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Who knows... this is disappointing. I have never owned a Yamaha before but the web feature was definitely something I would want to use if I get one. I am seriously leaning towards a 3080.


Silly question, but you can still access all of the PEQ settings in the GUI, correct?
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Who knows... this is disappointing. I have never owned a Yamaha before but the web feature was definitely something I would want to use if I get one. I am seriously leaning towards a 3080.


Silly question, but you can still access all of the PEQ settings in the GUI, correct?
I've owned Yamaha AV components exclusively since 1979, nearly 4 decades
...and this is the first year I almost switched over to team Marantz

I Really wanted 7.2.6 support in my next processor,
but that appears to be out of reach for me right now, maybe after HDMI 2.1.

I had a great shot at a Marantz SR7012 for almost half price,
but in the end I stuck with Yamaha, sold my 3050 for a discounted 3070 instead

For Dolby Vision support, Amazon Alexa support and Yamaha's Web Control
and Yamaha's Superior AV controller App for iOS/Andoid phones/tablets.

I use my andoid phone and tablet from anywhere in the house or out in the Garage 100' away (via WiFi)
So no need for an IR remote, even if the new one is back-lit
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Mysteriously Missing from the 2018 User Manuals: Web Control Center
I'm not sure why it was not included, but I have heard it still works on the new 2018's, perhaps somewhat more limited though

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Once I get more information/confirmation I will update the first reserved spot


I posted about this earlier in the other thread (2018 Yamaha RX-A Line). The main web control interface is gone, reduced to a text menu with a few options. The advanced setup menu accessed by putting "Setup" in the URL, like in your picture above, is still there and appears to be fully functional.
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Who knows... this is disappointing. I have never owned a Yamaha before but the web feature was definitely something I would want to use if I get one. I am seriously leaning towards a 3080.

Silly question, but you can still access all of the PEQ settings in the GUI, correct?
See the above post. Apparently you have to add the word "setup" to your AVRs IP address to open the advanced GUI. I've just verified that this works on my 2080.

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I posted about this earlier in the other thread (2018 Yamaha RX-A Line). The main web control interface is gone, reduced to a text menu with a few options. The advanced setup menu accessed by putting "Setup" in the URL, like in your picture above, is still there and appears to be fully functional.
AWESOME! THis does indeed work on my 2080. Thanks SO much for the tip! Now the question becomes, why would Yamaha make this less than obvious to access?
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I can't find them. The GUI in my 2080 only allows a few settings to be changed, unless I'm missing something VERY obvious. I'll double-check when I get home tonight, but as far as I can tell you'll need to get a **70 series if the web GUI is important to you.

You need to add "/Setup" to the end of the IP address URL. That will get you to the more advanced setup screen.
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AWESOME! THis does indeed work on my 2080. Thanks SO much for the tip! Now the question becomes, why would Yamaha make this less than obvious to access?

They have never advertised the existence of that one to my knowledge. My guess is they don't want to deal with the tech support calls from people messing around with it.
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I'm just happy they didn't nix it this year. Thanks again for the info!

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You need to add "/Setup" to the end of the IP address URL. That will get you to the more advanced setup screen.



So friggin glad to hear that!! Thanks for the tip!
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I am thinking about purchasing either the 1080 or 2080. I understand the 2080 EQ's duel subs individually whereas the 1080 does not. My set-up has two identical subs equal distant from the MLP. Considering this, would it be beneficial to go with the 2080 or ''get by'' with the 1080? Thanks in advance.
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I am thinking about purchasing either the 1080 or 2080. I understand the 2080 EQ's duel subs individually whereas the 1080 does not. My set-up has two identical subs equal distant from the MLP. Considering this, would it be beneficial to go with the 2080 or ''get by'' with the 1080? Thanks in advance.
No real benefit going to the 2080 for Sub EQ alone for your setup.

...but if you ever plan to venture down the ATMOS path
a 9 Channel AVR is preferred over a 7 channel.

5.1.4 > 5.1.2 or 7.1.2 or 7.1

...and only the 2080/3080 can do 5.1.4

You can't add an external amp to a 1080 for 5.1.4 like many Denon/Marantz models.

..also worth noting, Only the 3080 can expand to 7.1.4 (11 channel processing)
with the addition of an external amp. (The 2080 will always be limited to 9 channels 5.1.4 or 7.1.2)

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That's not exactly how it works,

That was simply a 2018 general anticipation thread started in March, not an "Official" Thread, not a "master thread"
I get it, but new comers do not know that as it is not listed as a "anticipation" thread........
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