Originally Posted by flycaster
I'll be replacing my 18 year old RXV800 with the TSR-7850 for my 5.1 set up in a day or two. The V800 still works well but does have some issues: No HDMI's, front panel light is very intermittent, changing channels and inputs causes a loudish bumps from the sub...and it is old. Got the 7850 because it was a good buy from Costco, I like Yamaha's reliability, and as I am not an audiophile, I felt I didn't need to get an AVR comparable to the V800...and, of course, I felt that the 7850 would be a good unit. I do have some questions and most likely will have more after setting up the 7850 in a few days.
1. Over the years things must have gotten much simpler as I note that the 7850's enclosed manual is about 1/4 the size of the V800's and certainly isn't as detailed?
2. Why is it recommended that the HDMI from the 7850 to the TV be via the ARC than the #2
output? My TV (Panny 50V10) doesn't have an ARC HDMI input, just regular HDMIs; will this make a difference?
Many questions are answered in the manual, though you will have to read a bit into the specific features. The glossary at the back of most Yamaha manuals will get you started. Wikipedia can provide add'l help in understanding some of the technology that is new to you.
1. Yes and no.
2. HDMI-ARC is an update for S/PDIF which carries audio from teh TV ("over the air," or OTA, apps) back to the AVR on a wire in the HDMI cable. Where S/PDIF was limited to Dolby Digital 5.1 and PCM 2.0, ARC can carry Dolby Digital Plus
, which can include encoded Atmos
(height) information. If your TV is older and doesn't support HDMI-ARC, don't worry about it. If it DOES have ARC, the input should be clearly labeled.
I encourage you to browse this thread fr post 51 (page 3) onward. Many common questions from new users have already been asked, and answered.
Originally Posted by mooch91
- How would you say the amp compares in the 7850 vs. my old Onkyo? In size and weight, the Onkyo feels like double the unit of the 7850. On these factors alone, I feel like I'm taking a step backwards in terms of power and headroom.
- How does the YPAO compare to the Audyssey in my Onkyo? From what I thought I had initially read of YPAO, I was under the impression that it would allow for multiple position measurements and that it will EQ each of the speakers for the appropriate response (in addition to setting other parameters like distance, delay, etc.) much like Audyssey. What I see in the instructions now is that it's a single-point measurement, and I'm not sure if it has similar EQ functionality to Audyssey. Maybe higher-end Yamahas have a different YPAO algorithm?
- ... As mentioned in a previous post, I'm already disappointed that the 7850 requires I use the Musiccast app on my phone to browse the streaming services. Is this pretty standard for receivers at this price point, or do others have a better interface for these features?
- Another disappointment was the lack of iPod Classic control. Believe it or not, I still use the Classic for much of my music library and would have liked to maintain it because it is still functional in my vehicles as well. Come to find out that the Yamaha doesn't have an iPod interface. I don't believe my Onkyo even had a USB input, and maybe this functionality doesn't exist on any receivers any more. I may have to tinker with NAS to see if there is a way to have the same iTunes library available to the 7850 as well as to sync to my iPod. Anyone aware of a solution?
- One thing I really do like on the 7850 is the standby passthrough for HDMI. I don't like the AVR running when the kids are watching cartoons, and the standby passthrough allows me to switch the inputs using my Harmony One without having to turn the unit on. My Onkyo needs to be powered up and powered down each time an input changes if I want to use it in standby. Are there other brands that will have this functionality? I knew Yamaha had it, and that was one of the reasons I selected this brand.
1. No idea. But Yamaha reliability has trumped Onkyo's in past years.
2. There are fans and detractors of both. Looks like the 7850 has single-point YPAO like the 683 (perhaps the 685).
3. Someone mentioned there's a separate manual that describes using the MusicCast functions.
4. Direct connection of an iPod to an AVR is becoming a bit "old hat." A new method is streaming from your Mac or iOS device via Airplay, or playing the collection from an Apple TV (either from your Mac, or from your iCloud music collection). If your music is in iTunes, you may fall in love with an Apple TV (I have the 4gen model and it works fine, still getting updates.)
5. Other brands may have pass-through, you'd have to research that. Not really apropos to this thread.
Originally Posted by JoeKustra
On my old RX-V867 the Enter button brings up a menu with various function including other menus. BTW, there's a bug in my series: to stop streaming Pandora (or other NET stuff) you need to select a dead input to kill the stream. I usually select Sirius.
Same on my older unit. I think the intent is that you aren't interrupting the established stream, so if you switch to TV to hear that news bulletin on the screen, then back to Pandora/Spotify/whatever, the music is still playing, and you don't have to re-select the radio station/playlist to start again. Make sense? I think that's convenient. But yes, it's annoying that it may continue streaming for quite a while during which time you've been playing a DVD/BD or played a video game.