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post #31 of 878 Old 12-04-2018, 01:14 PM
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Right now my answer would be no. If you are aware of how the Emotiva processor onscreen menus appear, I'll try to explain why there are limiting factors of speaker setup right now. But also why I think with the future add-on modules and a firmware update the answer should be yes.

*This may not be 100% accurate since I am going by memory. I can try to add pics tonight*
I currently have the RMC configured in a 9.1.6 setup. I have three front speakers, two pairs of side surround speakers, one pair of rear surround and three pairs of overhead. While accessing the Emotiva menus for speaker setup the have a generic label on the screen that coordinates with the labeled XLR outputs. For each output you can turn them on/off, set the speaker size to small/large and physical location (front, middle, rear). The options right now limit you on which outputs can be used for what. For example you cannot go into the Front Left speaker and turn it into a overhead. In the same way you cannot go into a overhead and turn it into a second front left output (at least not from what I remember while setting up my system).

HOWEVER, I believe when the add-on modules are added each of the new channels could be given the same options I listed above of on/off, speaker size, front/middle/rear and also overhead, side or LFE. I still believe the base 5.1 XLR outputs may always be set in stone and not re-assignable, but that is just my guess.

Clear as mud?

Will it run 9.2.4? That is all I need.


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post #32 of 878 Old 12-04-2018, 01:25 PM
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Will it run 9.2.4? That is all I need.
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Yup. It will do that and give you options if you want your subs to be mono or stereo.

For what it's worth, if you only need 9.2.4 and if you aren't in a hurry for a new processor perhaps the RMC-2 will fill all your needs and save you some cash. My understanding is the RMC-2 will be the RMC-1 without expansion bays. The RMC-2 release date is sometime next year*. Just a thought in case you aren't in a hurry.

*fingers crossed people don't start in on the Emotiva and release date jokes
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If deewan was able to configure the rmc-1 to have 2 pairs of side surrounds (instead of 1 pair of side surrounds and a pair of wides), that is actually encouraging. I was led to believe that the wide channels were not assignable when I called in to emotiva avout utilizing the "wides" as heights so you could potentially free up access to the 2 additional sub outs associated with center heights.

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Yup. It will do that and give you options if you want your subs to be mono or stereo.

For what it's worth, if you only need 9.2.4 and if you aren't in a hurry for a new processor perhaps the RMC-2 will fill all your needs and save you some cash. My understanding is the RMC-2 will be the RMC-1 without expansion bays. The RMC-2 release date is sometime next year*. Just a thought in case you aren't in a hurry.

*fingers crossed people don't start in on the Emotiva and release date jokes
I'm interested in the idea of the RMC-2/XMC-2 as well. Although I heard dual differential dacs for front 3 only and 7.1.4 max but personally that would suit me fine.
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Not really a RMC-1 owner here (not yet, I have my 40% off card ready just for it...) but, as usual, it looks like comments from people having (various) problems with their RMC-1 are almost the norm on the emotiva lounge. Hopefully, those various problems can be fixed through firmware. Though one of the users seems to have hardware problems too.

Thank you Emotiva for not making DiracLive available right away, because then I would have bought the RMC-1 blindly...and living in Canada would kame it a lot harder to return it for fix.

Believe me, I am no Emotiva basher, quite the opposite, I desperately hope they will fix all those problems and deliver a fully functional DiracLive version early next year. I wish them good luck, and also good luck to those (beta testers) who have bought the first batches of the RMC-1!
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...9.1.6 setup. I have three front speakers, two pairs of side surround speakers, one pair of rear surround and three pairs of overhead.

Clear as mud?
Are you splitting the signal for the 2 pair of side surrounds?

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I have exacly same setup to DEEWAN,I wait for rmc-2 because rmc-1 and 2 you can t buy before 2019 ,because I stay in canada .


I no undestand ,the free exange just finish and is ok between us and canada but you need wait when you wont buy some stuff from us.

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Add to that, I have many issues with audio from my PC. USB DAC streaming, and 7.1 Multi-channel via HDMI(Nvidia 1080Ti). Among the problems, is no bass management at all from any MODE, but "Surround" which is not right.

Via HDMI and USB DAC, The RMC-1 also takes a delay before any sound comes out, then annoyingly, drops the signal if there is no CONTINUOUS sound STREAMING out to it, only to delay again, kicking the sound on again.(example: playing youtube videos back to back). It seems to wait for sound signal then, cuts the signal off if there is no sound signal until another signal is detected. WHY?!?!......

Using HDMI, it keeps on switching channel numbers, delaying and cutting my sound off and on. (example: playing video games with PCM multi-channel audio)

All these bugs have been since day 1 from my PC which worked perfectly with all my other Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, Pioneer gear.

UPDATE: Same with the AppleTV 4K and it's multi-channel output.

I do know bitstream works well, and sounds great.

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WHEN you plug normal not pc the rmc-1 work ok.


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WHEN you plug normal not pc the rmc-1 work ok.


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Bitstream is OK. Any PCM multichannel is my problem.

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I expect the problems to be fixed with firmware.

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Yes, it's a little buggy, but bearable. A new firmware is slated for 1-2 days from now. My impressions so far are a couple posts up.
How many firmware updates have they released after the Nov 15 launch? Have any updates improved things? How would you Characterize the usage experience - is it extremely buggy and slow or very usable?

New to this forum - Closely following RMC-1 and hoping the bugs are addressed soon before I consider placing an order.
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How many firmware updates have they released after the Nov 15 launch? Have any updates improved things? How would you Characterize the usage experience - is it extremely buggy and slow or very usable?



New to this forum - Closely following RMC-1 and hoping the bugs are addressed soon before I consider placing an order.


There has been 1 firmware update. I too have been following both here and on the Emotiva sight. Without knowing for sure, obviously, there does not appear to be a whole lot out in the field yet but I haven’t read anyone that hasn’t, or isn’t still, having issues. Some sound worse than others. Like anything else there appears to be those trying really hard to stay optimistic...understandably so. That being said, I personally think they have a ways to go before the water is safe to dive into. This is only based on the limited information that can be gathered from posts. It still sounds pretty buggy post firmware update 1.


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There has been 1 firmware update. I too have been following both here and on the Emotiva sight. Without knowing for sure, obviously, there does not appear to be a whole lot out in the field yet but I haven’t read anyone that hasn’t, or isn’t still, having issues. Some sound worse than others. Like anything else there appears to be those trying really hard to stay optimistic...understandably so. That being said, I personally think they have a ways to go before the water is safe to dive into. This is only based on the limited information that can be gathered from posts. It still sounds pretty buggy post firmware update 1.


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Yes, will be closely watching over the next several months. Am really interested in how the user interface and software for RMC-1 performs after awhile. I have Emotiva amps and respect the company but want to see hem show their prowess with software before considering a purchase. Otherwise will probably wait for a successor to Marantz 8805/ Denon 8500 H which should be sound from the software aspect(given their long experience) but lack enough channels for me right now. Looking for a 9.2/3.6 setup.
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How many firmware updates have they released after the Nov 15 launch? Have any updates improved things? How would you Characterize the usage experience - is it extremely buggy and slow or very usable?

New to this forum - Closely following RMC-1 and hoping the bugs are addressed soon before I consider placing an order.
For now, Apple TV 4K PCM now works as it should, and changes to ATMOS on Netflix supported content properly, but NOT other PCM sources. See below.


Putting this out there for you guys, and for Emotiva to fix. I'll be calling them Monday as well

Here is a current list of bugs I'm experiencing after the 1st firmware.

1. Menu still has a few bugs, & still a bit sluggish, but not terrible.

2. Rare freezes prompting a full cold reboot.

3. Sounds cut off when nothing is input, causing a delay when starting to produce sound upon output.

4. Still no bass management on MODE "Stereo". I think that some programmer has MODE "Reference Stereo" mistaken with Stereo in the code.

5. The most annoying bug:

HDMI (NVIDIA 1080Ti) output from my PC with Multichannel and PCM sources like the PS3, is not solid. Keeps switching from 2.0, 4.0, 5.1, 7.1 when playing games, and or youtube, etc..... That compounds with problem #3. System sounds are also very delayed, or non existent. A disaster for PC audio, and gaming....

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Thank you Geronimo.USMC. I am pretty hopeful the bugs will be ironed out with time. If the system becomes stable, this one is hard to resist!
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Great input. Will follow closely.

It makes you wonder though... These bugs seems so basic that even a two hours internal test would have identified this. What other corners have been crossed on the RMC? :/

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With all these bugs....I wonder if the emotiva people even test these units or anything prior before releasing them? Seems the avs people have better idea of the emotiva product than the emotiva people themselves from what I'm reading. Otherwise, why would they release a product with all these bugs for that price?
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Is there a "Complaints about Emotiva" thread somewhere that everyone can post in instead of clogging up the "Official Owner's" thread? I appreciate the owners posting their experiences and follow this thread as I get closer to moving past my Denon 4300. But all the complaints from the non-owners are just repetitive and at this point really boring. We get it, there's bugs that most people wouldn't want to deal with.
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Is there a "Complaints about Emotiva" thread somewhere that everyone can post in instead of clogging up the "Official Owner's" thread? I appreciate the owners posting their experiences and follow this thread as I get closer to moving past my Denon 4300. But all the complaints from the non-owners are just repetitive and at this point really boring. We get it, there's bugs that most people wouldn't want to deal with.

Imagree. let the owners report their own bugs. Non owners, please follow in silence!
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Imagree. let the owners report their own bugs. Non owners, please follow in silence!


While I can appreciate, respect, and agree that this should not be an Emotiva bashing platform. I also don’t think anyone, owner or not, has conveyed anything that isn’t 100% true. It may not be what we want to hear but that doesn’t mean it isn’t true. There is no other current outlet for prospective owners to get information on the status of the unit. In my opinion, whether I own a piece or not, I want as much information/opinions from anybody and everybody. All of the owners’s forums are filled with owners and possible prospective owners. That’s what makes this so valuable a resource. Just my 2 cents...


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While this doesn't apply in most of the world, perhaps anywhere else in the world, but the United States, I follow the lead of the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, even in situations not legislated by the U.S. Congress.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Censorship is a bad word. Limiting free speech on the Internet shouldn't be advocated, encouraged or allowed.
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While this doesn't apply in most of the world, perhaps anywhere else in the world, but the United States, I follow the lead of the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, even in situations not legislated by the U.S. Congress.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Censorship is a bad word. Limiting free speech on the Internet shouldn't be advocated, encouraged or allowed.
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While I can appreciate, respect, and agree that this should not be an Emotiva bashing platform. I also don’t think anyone, owner or not, has conveyed anything that isn’t 100% true. It may not be what we want to hear but that doesn’t mean it isn’t true. There is no other current outlet for prospective owners to get information on the status of the unit. In my opinion, whether I own a piece or not, I want as much information/opinions from anybody and everybody. All of the owners’s forums are filled with owners and possible prospective owners. That’s what makes this so valuable a resource. Just my 2 cents...


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I could not agree more with the above statement. Information sharing is a fundamental requirement for any market and market based product. I should not have to become a “guinea pig” to discover and address issues with such an expensive product. These basic functionality requirements should be addressed *BEFORE* releasing a product to customers and as a potential customer I will explore every avenue and forum to better inform myself before making a purchase.

I guess people getting bored can get used to it - it says more about the product and its current limitations than about people evaluating/discussing the product.
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Free speech doesn't apply to private forums. You are allowed to stand on a street corner and shout as much as you want though.


Trying to convey that people exchanging information/opinions are “shouting” (while you are not) is pretty disrespectful to those individuals in my opinion. If you value your opinion please respect others as well.
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Trying to convey that people exchanging information/opinions are “shouting” (while you are not) is pretty disrespectful to those individuals in my opinion. If you value your opinion please respect others as well.
No, I just defined free speech. The internet equivalent is to start your own website. Once you are using someone else's website free speech doesn't apply regardless where you and the website is located.
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First I want to apologize to this thread and the people actually putting out real info. I didn't mean for this to become a first amendment issue. I was not in any way trying to stifle free speech. I want to hear all the actual bugs from actual owners. It would be horrible if their words were banned. Nor was my post directed at anyone in particular.

All Emotiva processor threads are full of people who don't own the stuff complaining about it. We all know that they release bug-laden hardware. If you buy some of their 1st gen stuff and don't expect some problems you didn't do your homework. This thread has has actual users posting actual negatives about the gear and what they would like changed. If I complain about how Emotiva released a processor that wasn't quite ready what am I adding? Nothing. I'm just complaining about a company I don't own stock in. We have plenty of complaints in the thread already from observers. I was just hoping that the bystanders that just want to type out more complaints could make an "Emotiva Non-Owner Complaints" thread to vent.

Like most people here I don't own the RMC-1. I follow the thread to find out when the unit will be in a state where I could actually deal with it in my setup. I have 2 mounted speakers just sitting there idle while I wait for my next receiver or processor.

Again sorry for adding to the irrelevant posts in the thread and thanks to the owners for letting us know how it is going. I'll shut up until I have a pertinent question about the RMC-1 or own one.
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While I can appreciate, respect, and agree that this should not be an Emotiva bashing platform. I also don’t think anyone, owner or not, has conveyed anything that isn’t 100% true.

Yes, but what's the value in hearing the same complaints over and over? It just gets tedious.

Let the editorializing go on in the other threads, and keep this one to the actual facts of ownership.
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point of order

this is an EMO owners thread: it was specifically created for owners of this model

if you are not an owner, or do not have questions relating to becoming an owner, you may be asked to leave the thread

thank you


going forward, posts may be deleted/members may be removed


please limit posts to the RMC-1

please take the high road in every post:do not respond to or quote a problematic post: report it
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