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post #1 of 19 Old 11-12-2018, 03:38 AM - Thread Starter
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Help me chose a new receiver

I currently am running a Pioneer Elite VSX-90. I am not a fan of the MCACC calibration that Pioneer uses. My speaker setup is Emotiva B1s and C1 for the front 3, a cheaper pair of JBLs for the rear, and two SVS PB1000 subwoofers. Because of the new house and money I have already spent on speakers, but budget max would be $500. Any recommendations for a decent receiver around that price (I know I will not get anything mind-blowing) with a good calibration system? Some options I was considering was Onkyo TX-NR676 or Denon AVR-X1400 (or 2400). As always, really appreciate the advice/help.
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If you can extend your budget you would be able to not only take advantage of much better EQ but also add dual sub EQ with the following 2017 models:

Denon X3400H
Marantz SR6012
Yamaha A2070
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Onkyo or Sony

I am changing out receivers, however do not have a lot to invest. The room volume is somewhere around 3k cu.ft., primarily tv and movies. Currents speakers are Emotiva B1/C1 in the front, JBL surrounds, and two SVS 12" subwoofers. I am looking to replace my Pioneer Elite VSX-90 due to lack of support which means it will probably never be able to pass through the latest HDR/Dolby Vision/HLG content. I just upgraded my blu-ray player to a Sony 4k.

As I said before I cannot drop a lot of money, but I found some models that have those features just not sure if they will have the power I need.
-Onkyo TX-NR676 currently $249
-Sony STR-DH790 currently $249 (rated at 90 watts @ 6ohms, so 8 ohms it will be lower and might not have enough power to fill the space?)
-any other suggestions without going too much over this price?

As always, thanks for the advice.
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The vsx-90 is going to be a lot more powerful than most new budget receivers. So if you are happy with it, then keep it and do some research on the HDFury. It has dual hdmi outs sending sound to the receiver and separate video to the tv.

The Onkyo 676 gets a lot of praise here. I think the denon x1400 is also on sale for about the same price and has better room correction software. It doesn't have a phono input though.

If you don't mind refurbished, you have a lot of choices from newegg, cruthfield and AC4L under $299. I have heard great things about the equipment from AC4L, but bad things about the return policy, so do some research first.

https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/avreceiver/home-audio/receivers-amps/home-theater-receivers/1.html?home_audio_key[]=Dolby%20Vision


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The vsx-90 is going to be a lot more powerful than most new budget receivers. So if you are happy with it, then keep it and do some research on the HDFury. It has dual hdmi outs sending sound to the receiver and separate video to the tv.

The Onkyo 676 gets a lot of praise here. I think the denon x1400 is also on sale for about the same price and has better room correction software. It doesn't have a phono input though.

If you don't mind refurbished, you have a lot of choices from newegg, cruthfield and AC4L under $299. I have heard great things about the equipment from AC4L, but bad things about the return policy, so do some research first.

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...Dolby%20Vision


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Thank you! So the Pioneer and Onkyo have the same power rating, 100/channel at 8 ohms. I picked up the Onkyo but it does seem like maybe the Onkyo is working harder? Volume on the Onkyo at 65 equivalent to what I listened to on the pioneer. I do like the room correction of the Onkyo better than the Pioneer. I am just wondering if the Onkyo is having to be turned up louder or am I confused because the Pioneers volume was dB and the Onkyo is a number up to 100? Now may be considering the Sony STR1080??
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Pioneer is now owned by Onkyo. Ive lost faith in anything Onkyo brand myself, after owning a short lived 806 AVR that ran Hot & had the hdmi board fail.

I would go with the Sony, out of your previous choices.

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if you just bought a Sony 4k player you probably didn't need to upgrade your receiver. most Sony 4K players have dual HDMI out, one for audio and one for video. you could connect the video directly to your 4K TV and the hdmi audio to your Pioneer receiver.

Plus the Sony 4K players have many streaming apps built in.

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Pioneer is now owned by Onkyo. Ive lost faith in anything Onkyo brand myself, after owning a short lived 806 AVR that ran Hot & had the hdmi board fail.

I would go with the Sony, out of your previous choices.
I’ve heard that...and personally I’ve just not been overly happy with Pioneer, and maybe that is where my thoughts on this Onkyo are coming from? Anyways, I’m open to other choices, just need to keep the price around $400-$450 at the most.
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Yea in the end its all about how it sound to you.

There are plenty of good choices in that price range and the Sony gets a lot of good reviews here too as @toddman36 said.

Good luck!
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Need help, most important receiver feature

I have a room that’s just about 3k cu. ft. Speakers I am running are Emotiva B1/C1 up front, JBL in the rear, and dual 12” SVS subs.

What is the most important feature I should look for? Power (watts/channel) or something else? I just picked up an Onkyo TX-NR676 but I feel that it has to be turned up pretty loud for listening levels (around 60, which is more than half the total volume), so I’m not sure if I just don’t have it set up correctly that it sounds so quiet? It is rated at 100 watts/channel.

I chewed up a good amount of my budget on my speakers/subs, so I would prefer to keep the receiver around the $400 price point (not sure if that is possible). I have received so much help when it came to doing my speakers, so I appreciate all the help I can get around this. As always, thanks.
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I replied in your other thread, but can't remember what I wrote. So I will try again. If you are just looking for a new avr with more power, I believe the yamaha rx-v685 is the cheapest new avr with front preouts. That will allow you to run a 2 channel amp for the L/R fronts. That should make your Emotivas sing nicely.

If you don't mind one a few years old, the Onkyo rz810 is a beast with preouts and less than $500 new. https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...onkyo+tx-rz810


If you do not mind refurnished, then AC4L has 12 receivers with front preouts and 100+ w/ch for less than $500. The old Integra 50.1/50.2 are 135w/ch beasts and will play beyond ear bleeding levels.

https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/avreceiver/home-audio/receivers-amps/home-theater-receivers/1.html?home_audio_key[]=Mulit-Channel%20Preout

in the end you have to decide what features you want and then research from there.

Yamaha have always been known for reliability, great dsp options and iphone/android app
Denon - great HT receivers with lots of features (no phono on lower end models until now x1500/x2500/x3500)
Marantz - good musical receivers/HT too
onkyo - tons of features, reliability issues
Pioneer - now onkyo, good features unknown reliability issues?
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I replied in your other thread, but can't remember what I wrote. So I will try again. If you are just looking for a new avr with more power, I believe the yamaha rx-v685 is the cheapest new avr with front preouts. That will allow you to run a 2 channel amp for the L/R fronts. That should make your Emotivas sing nicely.

If you don't mind one a few years old, the Onkyo rz810 is a beast with preouts and less than $500 new. https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...onkyo+tx-rz810


If you do not mind refurnished, then AC4L has 12 receivers with front preouts and 100+ w/ch for less than $500. The old Integra 50.1/50.2 are 135w/ch beasts and will play beyond ear bleeding levels.

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...annel%20Preout

in the end you have to decide what features you want and then research from there.

Yamaha have always been known for reliability, great dsp options and iphone/android app
Denon - great HT receivers with lots of features (no phono on lower end models until now x1500/x2500/x3500)
Marantz - good musical receivers/HT too
onkyo - tons of features, reliability issues
Pioneer - now onkyo, good features unknown reliability issues?
Thanks for all the great info! I am coming off a pioneer and was not happy they dropped support for it. Maybe the Onkyo is not not a good option knowing they merged with pioneer. I have no issues going refurb or older model, but I do want to make sure it can pass through all the latest video features...HDR, Dolby Vision, etc.
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I've merged your three receiver threads into one "help me chose a new receiver". Going forward please post all follow up questions or needs in this merged thread.
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Maybe you should look into the Denon x2400. In one my systems I’m running the little brother of your elite (elite vsx 45) and it rocks. I’m using it for a 5.2 system. Don’t care about any of the latest formats.

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Any opinions on these three?

Yamaha TSR-7810 (factory refurbished) $399 on Amazon. 95 watts/channel but looks like quality parts. Not that familiar with Yamaha, especially the TSR line.

Sony STR-DN1080 $450 everywhere. Seems like a lot of people have been happy with the sound, however my center is 4ohm and I’ve heard this does not play nice with that.

Onkyo TX-RZ810 $480 on Amazon. Definitely has the most power, but is reliability a concern?

All 3 have support the for latest video features.
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If you are a Costco member check out the Yamaha TSR-7850. The TSR is similar to the RXV but think made for places like Costco.
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I’m considering the Costco Yamaha 7850. Can anyone tell me if the Zone 2 would let me attach 2 stereo speakers from my patiio and have a 5.2.1 (a 5.1 plus 2 atmos height speakers) for my living Room? From the website it looks like I can, and that it’ll use the 2 rear channels to power the patio speakers when I turn on Zone 2. Is that right?

Also is there good power for a room that’s 15 x 18 x 10 ft high?
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Its only a 7 channel receiver so I think when you activate zone 2, the atmos speakers stop playing, even if you have them connected via the preout for zone 2. The Yamaha musiccast wireless systems allows you to add a few wireless speakers, but I think you need special equipment and speakers?

i thikn the Costco 7850 is the same as the rx-v685 so check the dedicated yamaha thread here. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...rs-thread.html
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