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Not Marc, but this is more a competitor to the Emotiva RMC-2.

The RMC-1 has more flexibility with it being expandable to up to 28 channels.

The HTP-1 and RMC-2 have similar price points.
Uh yeah...but when do you think Emotiva will actually have that expansion capability ready and available?

Emotiva and expandability really should be used in the same sentence until the "expansion" is actually ready.
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So if I have at AT543NC, should I stick with all of that variety? I’d be curious to test it head to head with the Monoprice amp
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Am I weird for wanting to brand match the components?
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So if I have at AT543NC, should I stick with all of that variety? I’d be curious to test it head to head with the Monoprice amp
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No Auro3d, to bad, that would have been icing on a a pretty feature rich looking cake.
the back of the chassis says "Auro 3D audio"
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the back of the chassis says "Auro 3D audio"
That's the ATI ATP16, not the monoprice.

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That's the ATI ATP16, not the monoprice.
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So if I have at AT543NC, should I stick with all of that variety? I’d be curious to test it head to head with the Monoprice amp

I know the amps. Or you can read Kal Rubinson's thoughts in his Stereophile reviews.



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I'm very impressed by all the analog audio and video inputs it has.

I realize this has more channels of decoding, but at least with something like the Denon X8500H they made some attempt to support legacy devices.
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I'm very impressed by all the analog audio and video inputs it has.

I realize this has more channels of decoding, but at least with something like the Denon X8500H they made some attempt to support legacy devices.
Well future happened, sorry.

I would happily have a unit with 0 legacy analogue inputs if it resulted in a cheaper and more reliable device (less things to break after all).
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Well future happened, sorry.
So why does it have so many SPDIF inputs then?
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No need for legacy inputs on something like this IMO.

I’m hopeful a Monoprice 20% off Black Friday coupon might apply to this next fall.

But, I will probably hold off if it doesn’t support HDMI 2.1. There’s just too many things HDMI 2.1 is bringing to the future table to freely discount it. (My main interest in HDMI 2.1 it is variable refresh rate support for gaming)
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So why does it have so many SPDIF inputs then?
Maybe their CEO is an avid MiniDisc fan?
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Was just looking at the DataSat LS10 vs. the Monoprice HTP-1 back panel. I hope someone has the wherewithal to pop the tops and compare the two.





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Crap! My trusty 1505 isn't balanced.
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Crap! My trusty 1505 isn't balanced.
Don't need balanced if you can't hear noise.

My Denon x7200wa and Sherbourn 7-350PA combo (RCA to XLR connection) was made COMPLETELY silent by a Panamax M5400-PM power filter/voltage regulator.

I've had a tiny bit of hiss you could hear from the combo from about <2' away until the last month when I bought the Panamax. Now I can walk up to the speaker and not hear it. I don't have balanced on the Denon.

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Well it looks like this Monoprice that we're talking about here, has only balanced outs.
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Well it looks like this Monoprice that we're talking about here, has only balanced outs.
Yes, should work well with the newer Monolith X series of amps and their XLR inputs.

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This is a beast. Super happy with my Monolith 15 subs thus may be a future purchase...
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One aspect we can’t see from the photos is the on screen GUI. This will be interesting to see the feature set and how user friendly it is.

Also, I can’t tell if the second monitor out is just a copy of whatever the primary is or if it can be independent from another source.

One feature lacking from my denons is the ability to independently select audio and video from any source. They do offer “video select” on audio only sources. But it sure would be nice to be able to listen to audio from one hdmi source and watch video from a different source. Will this unit offer such flexibility?

It’s interesting that it has no unbalanced outputs past the mains. Even the sub outs are xlr. I will admit that the one speaker I’m most Likely to want to use a balanced input is is a sub due to sometimes long cable runs for some installations. But on the other hand, the average sub has no such input. I guess we just use xlr to rca adapters in these cases.

Anyone who uses 3 subs, and I do in 2 different rooms is going to lose a pair of Atmos speaker options, making this unit a lot less unique. With as little as 2 subs you are really going to lose that extra Atmos pair because the are a pair. If you lose 1 you lose 2. And if you do use 3 subs, will the units room correction software independently testvall three? My current systems only have 2 sub outs and I have to use a wire splitter on one and speaker level inputs on th3 other system. But since this has 3 outputs it must be able to balance 3 subs in the room.

A $4000 price point doesn’t make me want to run out and grab one as soon as they are out. By June, I’m sure there will be a lot more products out there with the same feature set. The quality better be audiophile grade at this price point.

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I hope that the second video out is a proper zone 2. I use this feature all of the time on my Marantz. It's one of the only things tying me to the 'established' brands.

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But since this has 3 outputs it must be able to balance 3 subs in the room.

That's a big assumption.

It may EQ each one independently but not account for their interactions.

OTOH maybe it will have Dirac's new enhanced bass capability and it will do that.
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One aspect we can’t see from the photos is the on screen GUI. This will be interesting to see the feature set and how user friendly it is.

Also, I can’t tell if the second monitor out is just a copy of whatever the primary is or if it can be independent from another source.

One feature lacking from my denons is the ability to independently select audio and video from any source. They do offer “video select” on audio only sources. But it sure would be nice to be able to listen to audio from one hdmi source and watch video from a different source. Will this unit offer such flexibility?

It’s interesting that it has no unbalanced outputs past the mains. Even the sub outs are xlr. I will admit that the one speaker I’m most Likely to want to use a balanced input is is a sub due to sometimes long cable runs for some installations. But on the other hand, the average sub has no such input. I guess we just use xlr to rca adapters in these cases.

Anyone who uses 3 subs, and I do in 2 different rooms is going to lose a pair of Atmos speaker options, making this unit a lot less unique. With as little as 2 subs you are really going to lose that extra Atmos pair because the are a pair. If you lose 1 you lose 2. And if you do use 3 subs, will the units room correction software independently testvall three? My current systems only have 2 sub outs and I have to use a wire splitter on one and speaker level inputs on th3 other system. But since this has 3 outputs it must be able to balance 3 subs in the room.

A $4000 price point doesn’t make me want to run out and grab one as soon as they are out. By June, I’m sure there will be a lot more products out there with the same feature set. The quality better be audiophile grade at this price point.
There won’t be an onscreen GUI if it’s based on the Datasat LS10. All setup and monitoring will be done on a tablet or laptop using VNC. Again, this all assumes these features are carried over from the LS10.
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There won’t be an onscreen GUI if it’s based on the Datasat LS10. All setup and monitoring will be done on a tablet or laptop using VNC. Again, this all assumes these features are carried over from the LS10.
This actually might be better. I wouldn’t think monoprice has the ability to build their own GUI and maintain it timely.

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Audio Codecs Supported

Dolby® ATMOS
Includes support for Dolby® TrueHD and Dolby® Digital
Up to 16 output channels with flexible speaker assignment.
9.1.6 (add wide channels, and upper front and rear)
7.3.6 (3 subwoofers instead of wide channels)
7.5.4 (5 subwoofers, only 4 upper)..."


Hopefully those are just a subset of what's possible; I'm looking for 9.2.4.
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Not at all, my point.

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I hope that the second video out is a proper zone 2. I use this feature all of the time on my Marantz. It's one of the only things tying me to the 'established' brands.
I second this for sure, but I'm not hopeful. This appears more like a "serious" home theatre PRE PRO whereby the outputs would simply run the same sig to (for exp), switch or simultaneously run a PJ and display. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm skeptical. I run 6 displays in my theatre/entertainment area and it's nice to have a second zone I can split via an HDMI splitter to varying displays. VERY easy to run three sources (with a second direct tv box), anywhere.

Another question, forgive me as it's been a while and I didn't want to start a second thread:

Seeing less and less components (namely, streaming boxes) have an SPDIF out (exp: Apple TV), have we reached the point where we can overlay the HDMI audio of one input over the video of another? I've always used an optical input from my Apple TV to accomplish such over "x" video, but again, that's now gone away on the new ATV's.

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Which would you rather have? Denon 8500 or this new one? I know it is a little apples to oranges, but I am in the process of upgrading, and not sure I want to spend the money on the 8500 if I just want to buy something else in 6 months. I narrowed it down to the Denon 8500 over the Anthym Pre/Post but this one now has me thinking. Thoughts?
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Which would you rather have? Denon 8500 or this new one? I know it is a little apples to oranges, but I am in the process of upgrading, and not sure I want to spend the money on the 8500 if I just want to buy something else in 6 months. I narrowed it down to the Denon 8500 over the Anthym Pre/Post but this one now has me thinking. Thoughts?
Glad you asked that — I’m in the same boat... know they are completely different beasts and the Marantz 8805 is probably more similar, plus the unit isn’t even out yet, and this is based on hypotheticals... which one is better... I’m still leaning towards x8500 given it’s known?
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