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Receiver for Dolby Atmos 5.1.4(minimum)

Hello all im, looking for a receiver that can do the above Dolby 5.1.4(minimum). I'm only upgrading because my current receiver is limited to 5.1.2. I'm not too big on features like say fancy dsp modes and special surround modes that won't be taken up as a primary movie sound standard. With that being said I'd like to have the ability to expand channels in the future if need be.

I've narrowed it down to the following receivers.

Denon x6500h/x8500h
Marantz sr7013/sr8012
Yamaha 3080

My budget is upto 3k. If there's other honorable mentions, please list them. I watch a lot of movies maybe 90/10 movies to music. I'd like to start using the multi zone to another room 5.1 if possible. I'd like to be able to watch different programming in the second zone as well.

I'm not tied to any brand, and I've checked the numerous threads on these receivers but it's not easy deciphering info through hundreds of pages.

Is one receiver better for music?
Which is great at double duty? Movies and music?

Am I thinking too much? Should I just select a receiver?
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Denon 4500 as well, has 9 internal amps and can process up to 11 ch, with a additional 2 ch amp. Obviously the 8500 is already above your proposed 3k budget, as it retails for 4k.

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Yup as @toddman36 said, save yourself $2k and get a new x4400h on Amazon for less than $1k. It can process 11 channels, has xt32 correction with sub eq for dual subs, has 3 zones and a good phone app that lets you really tweak your settings ($20). Or wait for the newer x4500h to go back on sale at Frys for less than $1k and pocket the savings again.

Denon is known for HT, Marantz is the Denon cousin and is a little more musical. It has hdam circuits and 7.1 channel inputs for sacd.

Since you do 90% movies, the Denon should blow you away!


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Denon 4500 as well, has 9 internal amps and can process up to 11 ch, with a additional 2 ch amp. Obviously the 8500 is already above your proposed 3k budget, as it retails for 4k.
I've been quoted well below msrp for the x8500h which is why it's even on the list. It's probably the main reason other than expansion why it's there. I know it'll be overkill but I actually have a room in the house that I could definitely use atmos at its finest to fully utilize this receiver. Of course with this room comes with the WAF.

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Yup as @toddman36 said, save yourself $2k and get a new x4400h on Amazon for less than $1k. It can process 11 channels, has xt32 correction with sub eq for dual subs, has 3 zones and a good phone app that lets you really tweak your settings ($20). Or wait for the newer x4500h to go back on sale at Frys for less than $1k and pocket the savings again.

Denon is known for HT, Marantz is the Denon cousin and is a little more musical. It has hdam circuits and 7.1 channel inputs for sacd.

Since you do 90% movies, the Denon should blow you away!


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Why should the Denon blow me away? Just curious. 3 zones? Are these zones independent? Makes a difference. If I can utilize one receiver for basically the whole house then that would be great.
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I've been quoted well below msrp for the x8500h which is why it's even on the list. It's probably the main reason other than expansion why it's there. I know it'll be overkill but I actually have a room in the house that I could definitely use atmos at its finest to fully utilize this receiver. Of course with this room comes with the WAF.



Why should the Denon blow me away? Just curious. 3 zones? Are these zones independent? Makes a difference. If I can utilize one receiver for basically the whole house then that would be great.
I should have first asked what kind of speakers you have and how many zones? There is no reason to make $3k receiver or pre/pro recommendations if you have some Bose speakers running in the living room two polk patio speakers out back. Now if you had a dedicated theater with 16 seats, a bunch of money, bad ass speakers, multiple subs and wanted 11 channels, then I would highly suggest Marantz 8805, Anthem avm60, NAD m17 v2 or Lyngdorf mp50. However, since this seems to be a nice room for atmos movies and maybe another 2 zones, there are a few solutions that meet your needs right around $1k.

So it will blow you away because the Denon (Marantz) room correction software in the x3400/3500/4400/4500/6300/6400/6500/8500 is the best Denon makes (xt32 with subeqht). What makes it unique is that it corrects frequency and phase on all channels and corrects dual subs independently down to 10hz (iirc). Also, on the Denon/Marantz all the hdmi inputs support hdcp 2.2, you can play digital sources in zone 2, it has phono input for the vinyl, it has 3 total zones and has 3 hdmi outs and it will play your speakers to deafening levels. If that weren't enough for ya, it also has pre-outs to allow you to run separate amps for the speakers so that your neighbor 6 doors down can enjoy the movie with you. I think the x8500 will also have a hardware update in the future to allow hdmi 2.1.

If you like the Yamaha sound, the rx-a3070 and rx-a3080 are also very good, but priced much higher than the comparable Denon/Marantz models.

If you like the old class D powered pioneer sound then the lx-801 and 901 are still around. The new lx503 can also do 11 channels but they they went back to traditional a/b amps and it has inferior room correction software compared to the Denon, Marantz and Yamaha.

Yes all of these would be a good single solution for 5.1.2 in the main area, 2 channels in the kitchen/living room and 2 channels outside.
Good luck!
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I should have first asked what kind of speakers you have and how many zones? There is no reason to make $3k receiver or pre/pro recommendations if you have some Bose speakers running in the living room two polk patio speakers out back. Now if you had a dedicated theater with 16 seats, a bunch of money, bad ass speakers, multiple subs and wanted 11 channels, then I would highly suggest Marantz 8805, Anthem avm60, NAD m17 v2 or Lyngdorf mp50. However, since this seems to be a nice room for atmos movies and maybe another 2 zones, there are a few solutions that meet your needs right around $1k.

So it will blow you away because the Denon (Marantz) room correction software in the x3400/3500/4400/4500/6300/6400/6500/8500 is the best Denon makes (xt32 with subeqht). What makes it unique is that it corrects frequency and phase on all channels and corrects dual subs independently down to 10hz (iirc). Also, on the Denon/Marantz all the hdmi inputs support hdcp 2.2, you can play digital sources in zone 2, it has phono input for the vinyl, it has 3 total zones and has 3 hdmi outs and it will play your speakers to deafening levels. If that weren't enough for ya, it also has pre-outs to allow you to run separate amps for the speakers so that your neighbor 6 doors down can enjoy the movie with you. I think the x8500 will also have a hardware update in the future to allow hdmi 2.1.

If you like the Yamaha sound, the rx-a3070 and rx-a3080 are also very good, but priced much higher than the comparable Denon/Marantz models.

If you like the old class D powered pioneer sound then the lx-801 and 901 are still around. The new lx503 can also do 11 channels but they they went back to traditional a/b amps and it has inferior room correction software compared to the Denon, Marantz and Yamaha.

Yes all of these would be a good single solution for 5.1.2 in the main area, 2 channels in the kitchen/living room and 2 channels outside.
Good luck!
I have the Klipsch RP line up of the following...8060FA towers, 504C center, 502S surrounds and 500SA atmos speakers. I'm leaning towards the x6500, but I got some more research to do.
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Those are super efficient speakers and will play extremely loud with a modest receiver. You do not need a $1k receiver unless you are just looking to show off your equipment and/or checking account balance? LOL!

Your original statement said you wanted 5.1 plus maybe a second zone, so below is a list of the receivers under $1k that will accomplish that. Buy the one that has the features you want.


Denon x3500/x4500 (2 zones/3 zones)

Yamaha rx-a1070/1080 (2 zones)

Pioneer vsx-lx303/503 (2 zones/3 zones)

Integra drx3.2/4.2 (2 zones/3 zones)

Onkyo tx-rz630/730/830 (2 zones/3 zones/3 zones)


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Those are super efficient speakers and will play extremely loud with a modest receiver. You do not need a $1k receiver unless you are just looking to show off your equipment and/or checking account balance? LOL!

Your original statement said you wanted 5.1 plus maybe a second zone, so below is a list of the receivers under $1k that will accomplish that. Buy the one that has the features you want.


Denon x3500/x4500 (2 zones/3 zones)

Yamaha rx-a1070/1080 (2 zones)

Pioneer vsx-lx303/503 (2 zones/3 zones)

Integra drx3.2/4.2 (2 zones/3 zones)

Onkyo tx-rz630/730/830 (2 zones/3 zones/3 zones)


good luck!
thanks for the response, but the title clearly states the main purpose of the receiver, the other functions are caveats that im looking to dive into. I have two movie/ ht area, sometimes we want to watch the same shows just in different locations. The main area needs to be able to do 5.1.4. Not a showboat either, I'd just prefer to spend once and have the ability to expand on the future without having to buy another receiver.
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Pioneer vsx-lx503 cheapest 7.2.4
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Yea all kidding aside, there are a few 3 zones receivers I listed there for you that will work.....x4400/x4500, rz730/830 and the price winner the lx503.

as @michael1997 said, the lx503 is on sale now at Frys if you have a promo code? https://www.frys.com/ads/page25
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