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So im throug the initial setup but the bass is noway near what it should be. So are you guys running Loudness mgmt On or Off.
Also, i only see the option for 4ohms and 6ohms but my speakers are all 8ohms, anyway to change it?
Lastly, when i run the test tones, its stuck on some number, any way to listen to test tones on lower volumes when changing dbs manually? Thnx!
Onkyo only has the two options. Choose 6ohms. I have loudness on, but not sure it’s making any difference. Not sure about the test tone volume. BTW my bass is strong. Check the speaker setting. If they are set to large set them to small with an appropriate crossover. That should increase bass output.
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So im throug the initial setup but the bass is noway near what it should be. So are you guys running Loudness mgmt On or Off.
Also, i only see the option for 4ohms and 6ohms but my speakers are all 8ohms, anyway to change it?
Lastly, when i run the test tones, its stuck on some number, any way to listen to test tones on lower volumes when changing dbs manually? Thnx!
Onkyo only has the two options. Choose 6ohms. I have loudness on, but not sure it’s making any difference. Not sure about the test tone volume. BTW my bass is strong. Check the speaker setting. If they are set to large set them to small with an appropriate crossover. That should increase bass output.
I have large towers with built in subs so they really are Large. Should i set em to day 100hz or something to make em "small"?

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Also, I m sure there's deeper tweaking needed here as i feel like i only have two front speakers only when Im running 7.1.2 setup. And of course I tried doing dbs manually but tones are super loud and I cant turn em down like on my old onkyo.
Btw does anybody have ehcos of sound when Accureflex or whatever its called is on? Thnx!
Make sure you have the right surround mode on, i.e. DD+Surr. If you have echos it may be that you have it set to ARC and also have your TV volume on?
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I have large towers with built in subs so they really are Large. Should i set em to day 100hz or something to make em "small"?
Okay, towers with built in subs always screwed up my calibrations. I used to have Mirage speakers and always had to tweak them, a lot.

I would try setting your mains to small with a crossover at 40, 60 or 80. See what sounds best.
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Also, I m sure there's deeper tweaking needed here as i feel like i only have two front speakers only when Im running 7.1.2 setup. And of course I tried doing dbs manually but tones are super loud and I cant turn em down like on my old onkyo.
Btw does anybody have ehcos of sound when Accureflex or whatever its called is on? Thnx!
Make sure you have the right surround mode on, i.e. DD+Surr. If you have echos it may be that you have it set to ARC and also have your TV volume on?
No this is only for overhead Atmos sounds and goes away with the atmos accureflex turned Off. I have ARC set to off.

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@bslep can you pls confirm the calibration test tones sound like a scary giant angry robot with different voices and not your usual test tones?
And any way to lower the volume of those tones when doing manual tweaking? They seem to be stuck on certain volume lvl.

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@bslep can you pls confirm the calibration test tones sound like a scary giant angry robot with different voices and not your usual test tones?
And any way to lower the volume of those tones when doing manual tweaking? They seem to be stuck on certain volume lvl.
Yes they are very loud. No way to turn them down. One more suggestion, if you have glass tables, cover them with a blanket or towel. The ceiling speakers tend to bounce off glass tables and screws things up.
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@bslep can you pls confirm the calibration test tones sound like a scary giant angry robot with different voices and not your usual test tones?
And any way to lower the volume of those tones when doing manual tweaking? They seem to be stuck on certain volume lvl.
Yes they are very loud. No way to turn them down. One more suggestion, if you have glass tables, cover them with a blanket or towel. The ceiling speakers tend to bounce off glass tables and screws things up.
Cover them for calibration only or always? Also, right now it feels like listening to 2.0 sound even though both input and output are Atmos 7.1.2. Could it be bc i only ran 1st seat calibration? And seemed like the sub calibration was run on one sub only and not both? Thanks so much for your help.

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Cover them for calibration only or always? Also, right now it feels like listening to 2.0 sound even though both input and output are Atmos 7.1.2. Could it be bc i only ran 1st seat calibration? And seemed like the sub calibration was run on one sub only and not both? Thanks so much for your help.
Only cover the tables for the calibration. Don’t leave them covered. I think both subs get the same signal. I don’t think they are calibrated separately on this model. If you only did the one seat calibration, I wonder if it measured the standing waves for the subs?
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Cover them for calibration only or always? Also, right now it feels like listening to 2.0 sound even though both input and output are Atmos 7.1.2. Could it be bc i only ran 1st seat calibration? And seemed like the sub calibration was run on one sub only and not both? Thanks so much for your help.
Only cover the tables for the calibration. Don’t leave them covered. I think both subs get the same signal. I don’t think they are calibrated separately on this model. If you only did the one seat calibration, I wonder if it measured the standing waves for the subs?
Still it shouldn't sound like a 2.0 ch setup with one position... test tones come from all speakers so everything is connected properly and output is 7.1.2 ch.

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Still it shouldn't sound like a 2.0 ch setup with one position... test tones come from all speakers so everything is connected properly and output is 7.1.2 ch.
I agree. If you have a sound meter, turn on the test tones and measure the sound each speaker is emitting. They should be the same. Did you listen to a movie soundtrack you are familier with? If so, press the quick menu button. You can change the AccuEQ, set standing wave and equalizer settings as well.
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Still it shouldn't sound like a 2.0 ch setup with one position... test tones come from all speakers so everything is connected properly and output is 7.1.2 ch.
I agree. If you have a sound meter, turn on the test tones and measure the sound each speaker is emitting. They should be the same. Did you listen to a movie soundtrack you are familier with? If so, press the quick menu button. You can change the AccuEQ, set standing wave and equalizer settings as well.
I tested several movies im familiar with and especially scenes with very active back side and side speakers but they can only be heard if i put my ear next to em. Otherwise its front speakers dominant.

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Posted this in another category yesterday with no response, so trying here.

Leaning towards the denon4500 or the onkyo 830.
I have the LG 65" C8. Does anybody know if the 830 should fully work with the C8 w/o any known issues? Specifically, I've read about some people having issues with lipsync and issues with sending atmos through the C8's internal apps to the AVR.
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I tested several movies im familiar with and especially scenes with very active back side and side speakers but they can only be heard if i put my ear next to em. Otherwise its front speakers dominant.
I would make sure the AccuEQ is set to all channel and then check the distances to make sure they are accurate. If the distances are accurate, try turning off AccuEQ and see how that sounds. If nothing works, I suggest you call Onkyo technical support to see if they can help you troubleshoot.
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I tested several movies im familiar with and especially scenes with very active back side and side speakers but they can only be heard if i put my ear next to em. Otherwise its front speakers dominant.
I would make sure the AccuEQ is set to all channel and then check the distances to make sure they are accurate. If the distances are accurate, try turning off AccuEQ and see how that sounds. If nothing works, I suggest you call Onkyo technical support to see if they can help you troubleshoot.
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When enabled, accuEQ is set to AllCh and even with disabled itd front heavy only. No change. Crossovers dont change anything and on manual level calibration, all test tones sound pretty even so not sure when a movie playsn sound is only coming from fronts.

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When enabled, accuEQ is set to AllCh and even with disabled itd front heavy only. No change. Crossovers dont change anything and on manual level calibration, all test tones sound pretty even so not sure when a movie playsn sound is only coming from fronts.
Okay, and when you cycle through the “movie” modes it’s pretty much the same, heavy front?
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When enabled, accuEQ is set to AllCh and even with disabled itd front heavy only. No change. Crossovers dont change anything and on manual level calibration, all test tones sound pretty even so not sure when a movie playsn sound is only coming from fronts.
Okay, and when you cycle through the “movie” modes it’s pretty much the same, heavy front?
Yup same thing on all modes. I even hooked the bd player directly to tv and audio only to the reciever, still the same thing. I made sure the tv is not set to tv speakers. Even changed config to 7.1 setup only and not 7.1.2 but same thing. It cant be a defect as i do hear sound on all speakers, just gotta put my ear next to it. And reciever screen shows all speakers being active when playing an atmos disc. Same thing on DD aound or DTS.

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Yup same thing on all modes. I even hooked the bd player directly to tv and audio only to the reciever, still the same thing. I made sure the tv is not set to tv speakers. Even changed config to 7.1 setup only and not 7.1.2 but same thing. It cant be a defect as i do hear sound on all speakers, just gotta put my ear next to it. And reciever screen shows all speakers being active when playing an atmos disc.
Okay, I’m out of ideas. I would call Onkyo technical support and try to troubleshoot. Just may be that the 830 doesn’t match well with your speakers.
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Yup same thing on all modes. I even hooked the bd player directly to tv and audio only to the reciever, still the same thing. I made sure the tv is not set to tv speakers. Even changed config to 7.1 setup only and not 7.1.2 but same thing. It cant be a defect as i do hear sound on all speakers, just gotta put my ear next to it. And reciever screen shows all speakers being active when playing an atmos disc.
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Im stumped myself. Maybe ill reset the reciever and see. I currently have an older onkyo and its amazing. And it cant be that the new reciever doesnt like my speakers, they sound crazy loud on calibration and level configuration. Hmm... thanks though!

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I'm considering switching from my TX-NR838 to a TX-RZ630. I want to keep the Zone2 HDMI out, but I now need HDR content to pass through.

It doesn't look like any of the NR-series supports Zone2 HDMI out anymore, so I'm forced to move up to the RZ series.

Anything I should look out for in the switch? Any experience with the HDMI switching performance and reliability?
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So I just reset the reciever and had no settings going on. No calibration, just a 7.1.2 setup. Listened to bunch of stuff and its all front heavy. Tested the tones, all set to 0 db and working properly with equal sound. I think im ready to give up and send this unit back. Not sure if I want a replacement...

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So I have been putting my RZ830 through it paces and so far I am happy with it. The one thing that is annoying me is the noise from the relay constant switching between codecs in the beginning of movies as it is going through the different screens. Now my NR1008 did the same thing and I know there was a setting in the menu that you could change that way it kept a constant audio output even when the audio input was going from 2.0 to 5.x.x that way the relay clicking was mitigated but that was so long ago that I forget how to do that.

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No this is only for overhead Atmos sounds and goes away with the atmos accureflex turned Off. I have ARC set to off.

I have an RZ820, and also found during my atmos testing that the AccuReflex option was indeed the culprit for causing echo issues. I mentioned it in the dolby atmos upward-firing speaker thread HERE

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No this is only for overhead Atmos sounds and goes away with the atmos accureflex turned Off. I have ARC set to off.

I have an RZ820, and also found during my atmos testing that the AccuReflex option was indeed the culprit for causing echo issues. I mentioned it in the dolby atmos upward-firing speaker thread HERE
TY for sharing! Well I just returned the 830 for various reasons but for whats its worth, I think you're able to remedy the echoing voices by changing the height distance and still keep accureflex on. I didnt have much time to dial that distance in to see if it was more or less than the actual distance that fixed the echo but a worth try for you maybe...

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Hey guys, I'm looking at purchasing a new receiver and I see a RZ-830 for about $600usd open box at a store here. I've been looking mainly at Onkyo and Denon receivers (X4400H for example), and this seems like a good deal. My previous receiver is an Onkyo from like 2006, TX-SR705, and it's still doing well today, so I'm inclined to trust Onkyo, but wanted to hear people's thoughts on their newer models. My other question is whether it's worth to wait for new HDMI 2.1 spec. Like since you keep an AVR for a long time, I know it's good idea to have one with the latest specifications, so wondering what folks think about eARC, HDMI 2.1, the "IMAX Certified" feature, or if there's any other major feature coming out later this year that makes it worth waiting for next models.

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Hey guys, I'm looking at purchasing a new receiver and I see a RZ-830 for about $600usd open box at a store here. I've been looking mainly at Onkyo and Denon receivers (X4400H for example), and this seems like a good deal. My previous receiver is an Onkyo from like 2006, TX-SR705, and it's still doing well today, so I'm inclined to trust Onkyo, but wanted to hear people's thoughts on their newer models. My other question is whether it's worth to wait for new HDMI 2.1 spec. Like since you keep an AVR for a long time, I know it's good idea to have one with the latest specifications, so wondering what folks think about eARC, HDMI 2.1, the "IMAX Certified" feature, or if there's any other major feature coming out later this year that makes it worth waiting for next models.
I have never owned anything other than Onkyo when it comes to AVR's (except my first HTIB which was a Sony back in the early 2000's) so like you I am just inclined to trust them. People have always talked a lot about Onkyo's running hot but my NR1008 never seemed to get anything more than warm and so far I feel the RZ830 is about the same.

As for features, I am holding off on a TV due to HDMI 2.1 even though I really don't think it will be anything I use but I wanted a new receiver for Atmos and did not want to wait. I don't use ARC so not sure eARC will offer me anything beneficial although I have not read up on it so not sure what exactly it will do. The IMAX certified feature might be something that I would like to have but wasn't enough to make me wait...especially for a sub $600 AVR. Now if I were looking to spend over a $1K on an AVR then I might be inclined to wait but honestly for the price if the RZ830 holds me over 4-5 years I will be happy.
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Im stumped myself. Maybe ill reset the reciever and see. I currently have an older onkyo and its amazing. And it cant be that the new reciever doesnt like my speakers, they sound crazy loud on calibration and level configuration. Hmm... thanks though!
I also noticed that in my 830 that all channel stereo is front heavy when playing music. It could be that Onkyo's implementation is different than my previous Yamaha's. In movies, it is fine.

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Disappointed - RZ830 HDMI Issues

My NR818 died a couple of weeks ago and Onkyo was non-responsive when I inquired about the program many had found to get a deal on the RZ830's. Received a new 830 (purchased from Amazon) today and went through most of the setup only to find that this unit has HDMI issues. The only input that doesn't breakup video or mute audio occasionally is the GAME input. Anyone else having issues? I've ordered a replacement, but can't believe they are still having HDMI issues. I had the HDMI board replaced in my NR818 and it had very little use during the years I owned it so it made no sense when it died. Concerned I may be making a mistake staying with Onkyo. However, the RZ830 seems to have the most features in its price range.
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My NR818 died a couple of weeks ago and Onkyo was non-responsive when I inquired about the program many had found to get a deal on the RZ830's. Received a new 830 (purchased from Amazon) today and went through most of the setup only to find that this unit has HDMI issues. The only input that doesn't breakup video or mute audio occasionally is the GAME input. Anyone else having issues? I've ordered a replacement, but can't believe they are still having HDMI issues. I had the HDMI board replaced in my NR818 and it had very little use during the years I owned it so it made no sense when it died. Concerned I may be making a mistake staying with Onkyo. However, the RZ830 seems to have the most features in its price range.
Not good to hear. I just ordered the 830 today. Will be here Friday. Had the 787 for a minute and zero HDMI problems
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My NR818 died a couple of weeks ago and Onkyo was non-responsive when I inquired about the program many had found to get a deal on the RZ830's. Received a new 830 (purchased from Amazon) today and went through most of the setup only to find that this unit has HDMI issues. The only input that doesn't breakup video or mute audio occasionally is the GAME input. Anyone else having issues? I've ordered a replacement, but can't believe they are still having HDMI issues. I had the HDMI board replaced in my NR818 and it had very little use during the years I owned it so it made no sense when it died. Concerned I may be making a mistake staying with Onkyo. However, the RZ830 seems to have the most features in its price range.
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Not good to hear. I just ordered the 830 today. Will be here Friday. Had the 787 for a minute and zero HDMI problems
I have had my 830 for a few weeks now and have been using it a decent amount and so far I have not had any issues. I will say though that I have a refurb unit from A4L so chances are if my unit had HDMI issues it may have been fixed...at least that is what I am hoping.

Here's hoping that you have better luck with a new unit since IMO this is the best bang for the buck AVR you can get that allows 11 channel processing.

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