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post #31 of 756 Old 04-26-2019, 01:38 PM - Thread Starter
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I hope you guys can point me in the right direction.


My 10 year old Denon 1610 died so I am looking for a new AVR.

Now I would like to have to spend as little as possible but at the same time I want my next AVR to be some what "future proof" example eARC, Dolby virtual X and Dolby Height Virtualizer.


Now let me just say like with my 1610 I will once again only being using a 5.1 setup at least for a while anyway.

What I really would like to know is since I will be using "Dolby virtual X and Dolby Height Virtualizer" modes the most with my 5.1 speakers does it even make any sense getting the X2600H over the S950H? Since from my understanding Audyssey MultEQ XT is not even used when using "Dolby virtual X and Dolby Height Virtualizer" modes.

My room is medium size at best and my speakers while good to my ears are not what you would call even close to high end maybe not even middle end lol.

Also would I hear a big difference between 75W, 90W and 95W?

The $499 price tag of S750H is so tempting but I would be willing to spend more if the S950H or X2600H would have a very noticeable sound improvement.

I am hoping this new AVR will last me another 10 years!

I am just afraid I will throw extra money for extra features that I may not even need.


And last thing is Denon still really good?

I have seen a lot of bad reviews for Denon AVR's this past year which worries me a little.

I loved my Denon 16109 for the last 10 years though!

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Review post 1 to determine if there are any features on the X2500H or S950H that are needed over the S750H. However, note that although Audyssey MultEQ is not engaged when using the DTS Virtual:X surround mode, it is unknown if that will also be the case when using the Dolby Height Virtualizer surround mode. Power difference will be moot and shouldn't be a consideration.
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Any indication that the new models will support some sort of wireless surround speakers?
I just got the 2018 X3500H and I was under the impression I could connect HEOS speakers to run as wireless surrounds. I presume this is true of the 2019 models too.


Edit: I was reading a FAQ that specified the HEOS AVR, which I didn't understand is actually a different, HEOS-only receiver. It appears the functionality to add HEOS speakers as wireless is not available in the app. Bummer!

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I just got the 2018 X3500H and I was under the impression I could connect HEOS speakers to run as wireless surrounds. I presume this is true of the 2019 models too.


Edit: I was reading a FAQ that specified the HEOS AVR, which I didn't understand is actually a different, HEOS-only receiver. It appears the functionality to add HEOS speakers as wireless is not available in the app. Bummer!
Correct. Not available on either the 2018 or 2019 HEOS capable models other than the HEOS AVR or Sound Bar.
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The 2019 models list “Alexa/Google Assistant/Apple HomePod” as the last row under “Network” specifications but I wasn’t able to find any references to HomePod in the manual. Is this a mistake, or some other new feature? 2018 models are listed as not having it.
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I plan to buy one of the 2019 models when released, as an upgrade. I plan to install it in a well ventilated wiring closet, out of sight, and use the Denon iOS app to control it remotely (via WiFi).

However the Denon app gets (I'll be charitable) poor reviews in the iOS App Store. The most common complaint is that when launched the app can't connect to / can't find the AVR on the local network. This is obviously a concern to me given I plan to put it in a wiring closet.

Have the app issues been discussed somewhere here? I searched the 2018 "OFFICIAL" thread but didn't see much. Thanks for any insights offered.

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I plan to buy one of the 2019 models when released, as an upgrade. I plan to install it in a well ventilated wiring closet, out of sight, and use the Denon iOS app to control it remotely (via WiFi).

However the Denon app gets (I'll be charitable) poor reviews in the iOS App Store. The most common complaint is that when launched the app can't connect to / can't find the AVR on the local network. This is obviously a concern to me given I plan to put it in a wiring closet.

Have the app issues been discussed somewhere here? I searched the 2018 "OFFICIAL" thread but didn't see much. Thanks for any insights offered.

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If the Wifi signal strength to the AVR is strong enough or the AVR is wired to the primary router, the AVR Remote and HEOS apps should connect.

Otherwise, there have been no members posting of purchasing a 2019 unit yet so no discussion on connection issues have been discussed.
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If the Wifi signal strength to the AVR is strong enough or the AVR is wired to the primary router, the AVR Remote and HEOS apps should connect.

Otherwise, there have been no members posting of purchasing a 2019 unit yet so no discussion on connection issues have been discussed.
In hindsight I should have posted in the 2018 forum.

Would it be a violation of avsforum etiquette to (re)post my query over there?
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In hindsight I should have posted in the 2018 forum.

Would it be a violation of avsforum etiquette to (re)post my query over there?
Nope. Happens all the time (ie. member's posting in the wrong thread).
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3D Immersive Audio formats:

Dolby Atmos + Dolby Surround upmixer (aka DSU; simulates audio to height/ceiling speakers from non-Atmos BD/DVDs)


None of these models supports Auro 3D
Wow. I missed the publicity about that. Is Auro 3D dead, then? I've never heard it because Denon want me to pay them £200 for the firmware upgrade for my 4200W which enables it. I was consoling myself that it was FREE on future models - and now this!

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Wow. I missed the publicity about that. Is Auro 3D dead, then? I've never heard it because Denon want me to pay them £200 for the firmware upgrade for my 4200W which enables it. I was consoling myself that it was FREE on future models - and now this!
Review post 1 to see this thread only covers the 2019 5CH/7CH (ie. X3600H and lower) models as the 2018 X4500H/X6500H models will continue to be discussed in the 2018 thread.

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Review post 1 to see this thread only covers the 2019 5CH/7CH (ie. X3600H and lower) models as the 2018 X4500H/X6500H models will continue to be discussed in the 2018 thread.
I know that already, my question was about Auro 3D in general, after reviewing post 1. As in why was it removed from [the specs of] these 2019 models [having been included in every model since 2017] (so the question belongs here!). Wow. I missed the publicity about that. Is Auro 3D dead, then?

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I know that already, my question was about Auro 3D in general, after reviewing post 1. As in why was it removed from these 2019 models (so the question belongs here!). Wow. I missed the publicity about that. Is Auro 3D dead, then?
They never did, did they? I thought Auro 3D started with the 4500 and up.
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They never did, did they? I thought Auro 3D started with the 4500 and up.
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Why was Auro 3D not included in the specs of these 2019 models? Wow. I missed the publicity about that. Is Auro 3D dead, then?

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Or are you saying that this isn't news, nothing has changed, it's just not a feature that was ever planned for the bottom models in the range. In that case, now I understand the impasse of getting an answer to my non-question!

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Third time lucky:
Why was Auro 3D not included in the specs of these 2019 models? Wow. I missed the publicity about that. Is Auro 3D dead, then?

EDIT:
Or are you saying that this isn't news, nothing has changed, it's just not a feature that was ever planned for the bottom models in the range. In that case, now I understand the impasse of getting an answer to my non-question!
Right, not a feature of the lower models.
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Great job as always on the new Denon AVRs! Quick question regarding HDCP 2.3 on the 2019 S650H/S750H/S950H/X1600H/X2600H/X3600H models. I know that HDCP 2.3 was finalized last year but was unable to find complete info on how it compares to HDCP 2.2. I understand that it's mostly an addition to include 8K and higher content protection along with stronger protection, is that correct or are there other content compatibility issues to consider?

I know that HDCP 2.2 was essentially about 4K copy protection and very important for 4k media connected to the earlier Denon AVRs so is 2.3 essentially also including 8K and higher - or does it give these 2019 Denons any other HDCP capabilities/compatibilities?

https://www.digital-cp.com/hdcp-specifications
https://www.synopsys.com/dw/ipdir.ph...urity-hdcp-esm
https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2019...cure-hdcp-2-3/

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This is the best explanation of ARC and eARC that I've ever read. I hope it is helpful: https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.p...eARC+explained
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Or are you saying that this isn't news, nothing has changed, it's just not a feature that was ever planned for the bottom models in the range. In that case, now I understand the impasse of getting an answer to my non-question!
Denon is NOT replacing their 9/11ch models this year (4500 + 6500), instead replacing them next year when HDMI 2.1 is available.

Auro considers 9 channels to be the minimum layout for Auro3D (5.1 base layer + two pairs of heights). So Auro3D has NEVER been available on the 7ch models.
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Pandora Streaming Question

On my 2016 Denon receiver, Pandora is built in and I can access it directly through the receiver. The product sheet for the 2019 S650H states the following: "Wirelessly stream your favorite music services including Spotify, Pandora and more". Does this mean that I'll need to stream Pandora from another device or is it still available directly from the receiver itself?
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On my 2016 Denon receiver, Pandora is built in and I can access it directly through the receiver. The product sheet for the 2019 S650H states the following: "Wirelessly stream your favorite music services including Spotify, Pandora and more". Does this mean that I'll need to stream Pandora from another device or is it still available directly from the receiver itself?
It's both, in a way -- the newer models have built-in Heos modules for streaming, but you have to control the streaming with an app on another device. It's "casting" though so the device isn't doing the streaming, just the control; once the stream is initiated the receiver is streaming the audio directly. This is how it works for basically all the streaming audio services like Pandora, Spotify, etc.

If you save a Pandora "station" to your Heos favorites then you can access it directly from the AVR menu when you switch to the network audio source.
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It's both, in a way -- the newer models have built-in Heos modules for streaming, but you have to control the streaming with an app on another device. It's "casting" though so the device isn't doing the streaming, just the control; once the stream is initiated the receiver is streaming the audio directly. This is how it works for basically all the streaming audio services like Pandora, Spotify, etc.

If you save a Pandora "station" to your Heos favorites then you can access it directly from the AVR menu when you switch to the network audio source.
Thanks! Simple technology keeps getting less so, but being able to save stations as favorites and then accessing them directly makes things easier.
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Thanks, that's a great article on the differences between ARC and eARC that I read last year but my question was regarding the difference between HDCP 2.2 and HDCP 2.3 - which the lower and mid level 2019 Denon AVR's will receive this year.

My understand is that HDCP 2.3 is mostly about 8K copy protection - just as HDCP 2.2 was mostly about 4K copy protection. There's not a lot of info on HDCP 2.3 even though it was finalized this time last year in 2018.

As the X4700(?) & X6700(?) won't come out until next year 2020 with HDMI 2.1 and HDCP 2.3 while the other models (S650H/S750H/S950H/X1600H/X2600H/X3600H) are coming out this year with HDMI 2.0 (with some HDMI 2.1 features) and HDCP 2.3 - so wanted to make sure I fully understand the benefits of HDCP 2.3 with HDMI 2.0 - as you'll have the copy protection without the bandwidth capability for 8K.

Because if someone is going to future proof for 8K TVs over HDMI at this early stage then they are mostly likely going to purchase a X4700/X6700 or higher end unit - so what good does it do to have an 2019 AVR with HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.3? I understand that the 2019 AVRs have other features but this combo seems odd and not very useful - unless I'm missing something?

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A future game console or specialty player might work best (or only?) with HDCP 2.3 but of course there's no way to know that until those future sources are released. Or if you do a split outputs thing where your 8K DVD player has one cable going to the 8K TV and another going to the 4K receiver for audio, having HDCP 2.3 might be necessary then?



Functionally it probably costs them very little to include and gives them another bullet point to list on 2019 models, as opposed to just telling customers "keep buying the 2018 models, we don't need to stay in business."
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...Or if you do a split outputs thing where your 8K DVD player has one cable going to the 8K TV and another going to the 4K receiver for audio, having HDCP 2.3 might be necessary then? "
HDMI handles audio requirements and HDCP handles video copy protection/handshake, that's why on most current dual HDMI output UHD Blu-Ray players you'll see (1) HDMI 2.0 for video and (1) HDMI 1.4 for the audio into the AVR/soundbar. HDCP doesn't come into play, this is why when someone has a HDCP 2.2 component/system issue they get an audio signal but no video signal - also with audio output only mode HDMI 2.1 has the same audio specs as HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.3 wouldn't be a factor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

It just seem weird to couple HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.3 together, I know back in the day some AVRs coupled HDMI 2.O with HDCP 2.0 and some buyers got burned thinking their new AVR had 4K capability:

https://www.cnet.com/news/hdcp-2-2-w...-need-to-know/

So it appears that with these new low to mid range 2019 AVRs if someone new to AV is wanting to buy the latest product they could confuse HDCP 2.3 and HDMI 2.1 and not get the future capable product they expect.

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@jdsmoothie , if the high-end (9/11 channels) Denon AVRs (4xxx/6xxx series) will get HDMI 2.1 ports next year, do you know if the low-end models (5/7 channels) will also get HDMI 2.1 or stay for another year on HDMI 2.0b ports?
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Obviously JD is the expert but I'm positive all Denon AVR-Xs will come with HDMI 2.1 and HDCP 2.3 in 2020 - while none of them will come with HDMI 2.1 in 2019

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Note that all the 2019 models are still HDMI 2.0b (ie. HDMI 2.1 models won't be released until 2020)

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@jdsmoothie , if the high-end (9/11 channels) Denon AVRs (4xxx/6xxx series) will get HDMI 2.1 ports next year, do you know if the low-end models (5/7 channels) will also get HDMI 2.1 or stay for another year on HDMI 2.0b ports?
Not confirmed, but most likely all 2020 models will be released as HDMI 2.1/HDCP 2.3.
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Known Issues, By Design and other tips relating to the 2019 Denon S/X Series models



5. Samsung 2018 OLED TV Q9, Q8, Q7, Q6 Series - No Video Issue: This issue does not allow any 4K/60 / HDR content to pass through the receiver which causes the display to indicate “HDMI No Signal” on the TV. Samsung is currently further investigating the issue and should have more info on when a firmware update will be available. Refer to following link for more information --> https://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6849.
Anyone know if this issue has been resolved ?

-- EDIT--

Here's the response I got from Denon Support.

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The issue that you stated was on Samsung's end with those specific TV types when used with our units. We believe that this issue with Samsung Q series TV has been resolved by now.

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-- EDIT 2 --

I set up my AVR-S650H and found no problem with 4K/60/HDR using a Fire TV Stick 4K and a 2018 Samsung Q9FN.

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Any estimated release date for 1600/3600, etc?
Estimates based on previous years:
X1600H + X2600H available in May/June
X3600H available in August
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Any estimated release date for 1600/3600, etc?
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Looking for Suggestions Denon 2019

I have a Def tech SSA-50 passive soundbar with five channels. LFC and two surrounds which I can hook up to front wide channels. Then, I have two inwall polk audio surrounds and two inceiling polk audio downfiring speakers. Total 9 speakers and one polk sub. I have a Denon 4520Ci from 2013 but the ARC is acting up with my LG OLED 65C7.

Looking to upgrade to either x4500h (2018) or x3600h (2019). I know the 4500 is 9 channels but 3600 is only 7 channels. And I also know that 4500h is not being replaced in 2019 per the earlier posts.

What is the downside of getting a 4500h as opposed to one of the 2019 models if I do NOT care about: eARC on-board (3600h) as opposed to via firmware update for 4500h; dont care about airplay on/off function (not even sure what this means), dont care about dolby Atmos Height virtualization if I already have height speakers why do I need virtualizing those two height channels; and dont care about HDCP 2.3 (who know what this does other than hearsay about its 8K support).

I am not sure what 2019 models bring to table as opposed to going with a 4500h 2018 model.
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