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Looking for something that would be as powerful as my current Onkyo tx-nr 3008 unit. This thing is quite powerful, as it's when receivers had great amp sections in them. Looking for a 4k receiver that has something similar to the older flagship units that had Toroidal amps in them. Is there anything like this, currently?

Oh also, I'd want it to have Audyssey DSX/XT32, if possible.

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Looking for something that would be as powerful as my current Onkyo tx-nr 3008 unit. This thing is quite powerful, as it's when receivers had great amp sections in them. Looking for a 4k receiver that has something similar to the older flagship units that had Toroidal amps in them. Is there anything like this, currently?

Oh also, I'd want it to have Audyssey DSX/XT32, if possible.
not sure of the Onkyo specs but Look at the Denon AVR-X8500h probably as close as you could get.
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As far as I know, the only AVRs with Audyssey at this time are Denon and Marantz.

The only Denon model that approaches the sheer mass of the TX-NR3008 is the AVR-X8500H. That's a 13 channel AVR, though. The AVR-X6500H (11 channels) has a similar power rating, but only for 2 channels. Most current AVRs only publish power specs for 1 or 2 channels. soundandvision.com often tests multichannel power, but they haven't reviewed every AVR on the market.

I'm not familiar with the less mass-market AVRs. An NAD T777 V3 might come close, and it comes with Dirac Live, which is supposed to be superior to Audyssey. (The NAD AVRs tend to be not leading edge in terms of features, though. I don't know whether it supports Dolby Vision passthrough or eARC.)

One option would be a relatively lightweight AVR that has a full set of pre-outs, plus a separate power amp. The ultimate would be discretes: a preamp/processor plus a power amp.

What's your budget?
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Your Onkyo is 140 watts/2 channels driven, so the most comparable to this one would be the Denon AVR-X6500H. As already stated, this one is 140 watts/2 channels driven as well, but has 11.2 channels.

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As far as I know, the only AVRs with Audyssey at this time are Denon and Marantz.

The only Denon model that approaches the sheer mass of the TX-NR3008 is the AVR-X8500H. That's a 13 channel AVR, though. The AVR-X6500H (11 channels) has a similar power rating, but only for 2 channels. Most current AVRs only publish power specs for 1 or 2 channels. soundandvision.com often tests multichannel power, but they haven't reviewed every AVR on the market.

I'm not familiar with the less mass-market AVRs. An NAD T777 V3 might come close, and it comes with Dirac Live, which is supposed to be superior to Audyssey. (The NAD AVRs tend to be not leading edge in terms of features, though. I don't know whether it supports Dolby Vision passthrough or eARC.)

One option would be a relatively lightweight AVR that has a full set of pre-outs, plus a separate power amp. The ultimate would be discretes: a preamp/processor plus a power amp.

What's your budget?
What would a good minimum level receiver that has preouts, HDR, 4K, Atmos, etc, to pair up with something like an Emotiva XPA multi channel amp?

Not exactly sure on budget, just getting ideas for down the road.

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The Denon X8500h weighs 51.4 pounds, while the Denon X6500h weighs 31.1 pounds. The X8500h is the closest thing to the beast receivers of yesteryear.
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What would a good minimum level receiver that has preouts, HDR, 4K, Atmos, etc, to pair up with something like an Emotiva XPA multi channel amp?

Not exactly sure on budget, just getting ideas for down the road.
Solid 7 channel solutions on a budget would be tsr-7850 (LR preout), denon x3500h (full preout) maybe rz820, that seems to get a lot of love here too.

Solid 9 channel on a budget Pio lx503, Onkyo rz730/rz830, x4400/x4500h, Yammhy v2085, marantz sr6012/6013


Those should all stay on sale or at least be somewhat reduced as many of their 2019 versions are already here for pre-order, minus the x4500 and Marantz sr6013, iirc
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What would a good minimum level receiver that has preouts, HDR, 4K, Atmos, etc, to pair up with something like an Emotiva XPA multi channel amp?

Not exactly sure on budget, just getting ideas for down the road.
If you're going to connect to a Emotiva multi channel amp do you need a beefy receiver too, or just one with a full set of preouts?

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What would a good minimum level receiver that has preouts, HDR, 4K, Atmos, etc, to pair up with something like an Emotiva XPA multi channel amp?

Not exactly sure on budget, just getting ideas for down the road.
The Denon AVR-X3500H. 7.2 channel, full pre-outs, Audyssey XT32 with SubEq (semi-independent equalization of 2 subs).

At a potentially lower price, Onkyo TX-RZ830. Processes 11 channels, 9 amps, full pre-outs. (Single subwoofer signal, though, out of its two jacks.)
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I got the Denon 4400 ($800) and the Monolith 3x200 ($1000) (made by ATI) for the front 3 channels, which have Toroidal transformers.

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An option to consider....

Your receiver has multi-channel inputs so if you're happy with the amps and you are happy with 7.1, consider getting a pre-amp or other receiver (with pre-amp outs) that has the features you want. You can make use of the amps in your Onkyo and get current features without sacrificing what you already have. You could also use your Onkyo to power your front speakers while another receiver powers the surrounds (or another combination in an Atmos setup). Many options.
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