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Denon AVR-X6500H 11.2 Channel IMAX Enhanced AVR Review

For your consideration, a hands-on review of the Denon AVR-X6500H AV receiver. It's a box full of wonders and is the top choice for price/performance among the company's premium offerings. Unsurprisingly, this review has much in common with the review of the AVR-X8500H.

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They mention PC games and HDMI but nothing about HDMI 2.1. I think that would be of import to gamers and others.
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They mention PC games and HDMI but nothing about HDMI 2.1. I think that would be of import to gamers and others.
A gamer might find it desirable to connect directly to the TV and use eARC (which is supported) for sound.

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They mention PC games and HDMI but nothing about HDMI 2.1. I think that would be of import to gamers and others.
HDMI 2.1 models won't be released until 2020.

Note also the X6500H is discussed in the 2018 Denon AVR Owner's thread.

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HDMI 2.1 models won't be released until 2020.
That is part of why it’s noteworthy. Some of us buy a TV and or AVR every 5-10 years not every other. :P

Also, there were not going to be any HDMI 2.1 TVs this year either until LG did. CNet even said they would not have it. Even if its next year, I’ll most likely be waiting as this year’s OLEDs are ho-hum.

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That is part of why it’s noteworthy. Some of us buy a TV and or AVR every 5-10 years not every other. :P
Unless you are a gamer or plan to purchase an 8k TV, HDMI 2.1 is not likely to be of any real benefit to you.
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Unless you are a gamer or plan to purchase an 8k TV, HDMI 2.1 is not likely to be of any real benefit to you.
Understood but I disagree and that still don’t make it not worth mentioning.
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So this unit don't offer anything more than the last few generations.

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So this unit don't offer anything more than the last few generations.
that's the one thing people don't seem to ever understand - from year to year things never really drastically change THAT much unless some new groundbreaking - game changing thing is introduced.

For receivers it will be whenever the next shiny thing comes out to replace Dolby Atmos/ DTS X

and for TVs I guess maybe when TVs go to 8k + 12 bits, full REC 2020 coverage and find a way to merge OLED & QLED tech together

I'd say though that tech seems to move faster for things like TVs even if incrementally for TVs than for AVR.
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So this unit don't offer anything more than the last few generations.

Isn't the "Imax" thing new to just this and the 8500?


Edit:....I see it's on the 4500 also...

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For your consideration, a hands-on review of the Denon AVR-X6500H AV receiver. It's a box full of wonders and is the top choice for price/performance among the company's premium offerings. Unsurprisingly, this review has much in common with the review of the AVR-X8500H.

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Mark how does this avr compare to the nad 777 sound wise?


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Mark how does this avr compare to the nad 777 sound wise?


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So no real/relevant change from my X4200W
Thanks for the review.
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But does it display the volume on-screen in 4K? That's the reason I ditched Denon and went to Yamaha.
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A gamer might find it desirable to connect directly to the TV and use eARC (which is supported) for sound.
Frankly, with eARC, I'm going to be connecting all of my video sources directly to the TV to reduce latency, and using my receiver only for Audio playback. Hopefully we start to see some lower cost high quality eARC receivers that don't have 30 HDMI inputs.
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Frankly, with eARC, I'm going to be connecting all of my video sources directly to the TV to reduce latency, and using my receiver only for Audio playback. Hopefully we start to see some lower cost high quality eARC receivers that don't have 30 HDMI inputs.
All of the new 2019 Denon AVRs are eARC capable.
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But does it display the volume on-screen in 4K? That's the reason I ditched Denon and went to Yamaha.
Yup. All 2018 models (except S510BT) can do this to include over Dolby Vision as well as noted in the 2018 Denon AVR Owner's thread where this model is discussed.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post56087556
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Yup. All 2018 models (except S510BT) can do this to include over Dolby Vision as well as noted in the 2018 Denon AVR Owner's thread where this model is discussed.
Well it's about time. Might have to reconsider Denon next time I'm looking for an upgrade!
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Thanks for posting. I wish this and other reviews would bench-test the power with all channels driven. That approach seems to have gone away.

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The Audio market reached the stage of the Crypto one - no one knows how it works (and those who know, knows it does not), but having one is cool.
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But does it display the volume on-screen in 4K? That's the reason I ditched Denon and went to Yamaha.
Yes it does.
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The 6500 can't do anything but 480i upconversion from Component and Composite. It can't do 720p/1080i/1080p over Component upconverted to 4k. The 6400 could but the 6500 cannot. It states it in the manual. So strange in 2019 that a higher end unit cannot do this. I have some older consoles I would like to hook up using component but not being able to do 480p/720p almost defeats the purpose of hooking them up to it. If I didn't get such a good deal on it I would return it.
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If the review keeps describing the AVR as having 7.2.4 channels, why does the review report the wattage with only two channels driven? Seems like an irrelevant specification pushed by manufacturers' marketing teams. A website like avsforum.com should push back and report wattage with all channels driven.
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If the review keeps describing the AVR as having 7.2.4 channels, why does the review report the wattage with only two channels driven? Seems like an irrelevant specification pushed by manufacturers' marketing teams. A website like avsforum.com should push back and report wattage with all channels driven.
I don't have that specification and I don't have a way to measure it anyhow. 2 channels driven is the published spec and it is a common spec, which is why I used it.

All channels driven simultaneously is not a common occurrence in any mix, so as a specification it's actually less relevant than the 2 channel spec. That's because the 2-channel spec gives you a better idea of what the built-in amps can do under normal conditions, which involves a dynamic allocation of power to the channels that need it.

There's a reason AVRs have "power supply limited" amplification... it's wasteful to put in a power supply that could feed all channel concurrently at full power and likely would create too much heat if someone ran it that way.

I'm not going to get bogged down obsessing over power specs. If someone feels insecure about their AVR delivering what they want, power wise, they should add an amp. Problem solved. Most folks using bass management who have subs in their system will get along fine with the built-in amplification.

It's likely someone else (audioholics maybe) will provide the number you seek anyhow. Anyhow, I'm not going to go after that spec because as I noted, it's not that meaningful and I don't have the means to measure it anyhow nor the motivation to start.

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I don't have that specification and I don;t have a way to measure it. All channels driven simultaneously is not a common occurrence in any mix, so as a specification it's really less relevant than the 2 channel spec. That's because the 2-channel spec gives you a better idea of what the built-in amps can do under realistic conditions, which involves a dynamic allocation of power to the channels that need it.

I'm not going to get bogged down obsessing over power specs. If someone feels insecure about their AVR delivering what they want, power wise, they should add an amp. Problem solved. Most folks using bass management who have subs in their system will get along fine with the built-in amplification.

It's likely someone else (audioholics maybe) will provide the number you seek. Anyhow, I'm not going to chase after that spec because it's not that meaningful.

Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for your counterpoint!
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The 6500 can't do anything but 480i upconversion from Component and Composite. It can't do 720p/1080i/1080p over Component upconverted to 4k. The 6400 could but the 6500 cannot. It states it in the manual. So strange in 2019 that a higher end unit cannot do this. I have some older consoles I would like to hook up using component but not being able to do 480p/720p almost defeats the purpose of hooking them up to it. If I didn't get such a good deal on it I would return it.
Couldn't you just use an RCA to HDMI converter and then the Denon 6500 can do upconversion of 720p/1080i/1080p over Component since you inserted the HDMI converter in your component chain? I think that would work.
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