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Can somebody send to me too or share it here? Thanks a lot.

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ARC and miniDSP 2x4 HD

I am really new to REW and have some general questions. I saved 3 configurations last night for my 2 subs. I have yet to make adjustments manually, and probably won't have time this weekend. I forgot to get an actual response using REW to see what ARCs settings really. The ARC report seems to look much better than what REW's response. However, I forgot to get my own measure using REW with ARC on and without the miniDSP for an actual comparison to really verify the report.

When I rerun ARC, do I just load the configuration and proceed as normal, or will the quick measure work? Since I have 3 configurations done, I'm assuming I'd rerun it for each configuration and save it under that name.

Once I make some adjustments manually, is it necessary to rerun ARC again, or should I wait till I am able to complete all the adjustments. I think it's going to take a lot of time to manually EQ them.


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Same here. I would greatly appreciate a share of Mac install for Genesis v9006 also.



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Can somebody send to me too or share it here? Thanks a lot.
Anybody with 9006 Windows 64 version?

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Anybody with 9006 Windows 64 version?
Sure no problem, it's on my google drive. Click the download (down arrow) in the upper right corner. Then wait about 20 seconds for the download dialog or blue download button.

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Sure no problem, it's on my google drive. Click the download (down arrow) in the upper right corner. Then wait about 20 seconds for the download dialog or blue download button.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n7e2lhbP-lorAK5oLrW9VM1gdnKkwHoY/view?usp=sharing
I think this link should be added to the original post. That way anyone can find it quickly!

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I am really new to REW and have some general questions. I saved 3 configurations last night for my 2 subs. I have yet to make adjustments manually, and probably won't have time this weekend. I forgot to get an actual response using REW to see what ARCs settings really. The ARC report seems to look much better than what REW's response. However, I forgot to get my own measure using REW with ARC on and without the miniDSP for an actual comparison to really verify the report.

When I rerun ARC, do I just load the configuration and proceed as normal, or will the quick measure work? Since I have 3 configurations done, I'm assuming I'd rerun it for each configuration and save it under that name.

Once I make some adjustments manually, is it necessary to rerun ARC again, or should I wait till I am able to complete all the adjustments. I think it's going to take a lot of time to manually EQ them.


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What you see as the response after ARC is run is not an actual measurement of the room, it's the assumed FR after the filters have been applied. It will never fully translate to the actual response in-room.

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Anyone else have issues on a Mac using Genesis and trying to open an older .arc2 file from the Windows version? I can't do so right now.

Actually, it won't even let me open a .arc file either.

Will it only open .arc files that Genesis creates?
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Anyone else have issues on a Mac using Genesis and trying to open an older .arc2 file from the Windows version? I can't do so right now.

Actually, it won't even let me open a .arc file either.

Will it only open .arc files that Genesis creates?
Genesis and ARC or ARC2 aren't compatible so you can't open an ARC or ARC2 file with Genesis. To open an ARC or ARC2 to file you would need to re-install ARC2.

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Genesis and ARC or ARC2 aren't compatible so you can't open an ARC or ARC2 file with Genesis. To open an ARC or ARC2 to file you would need to re-install ARC2.
Got it, thank you! Time to recalibrate everything tomorrow!
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What you see as the response after ARC is run is not an actual measurement of the room, it's the assumed FR after the filters have been applied. It will never fully translate to the actual response in-room.
Thank you for info. Didn't realize this. I was wondering why it was so off.

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Manual IP config ?

Hi, I have my wired network (192.168.1.X) on a different network as my wireless network (192.168.2.X) but there is a router that connect the two.
As the auto scan only look at the current network, is there a way to tell ARC genesis the IP of the AVM ?

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Guys, stupid question here, but what does ARC actually adjust when it comes to both speakers and subwoofers?

For example, for a subwoofers there are only so many things you can adjust: crossover, phase, volume or gain, etc. What does Arc actually adjust?

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Guys, stupid question here, but what does ARC actually adjust when it comes to both speakers and subwoofers?

For example, for a subwoofers there are only so many things you can adjust: crossover, phase, volume or gain, etc. What does Arc actually adjust?
ARC adjusts volume (gain), crossover frequency and slope, and adds PEQ filters to smooth frequency response. Anthem models for which ARC adjusts phase (STR line only, I think, at present) do so in a separate software module called from ARC, which adjusts for the phase that gives smoothest frequency response when both mains and subs are driven.
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Hey Guys,

Quick one, it's time to run Genesis but I am slightly confused if I should run it on the sub via its dedicated USB port first/or at all or just run it altogether with the whole system or run it on the sub first then the whole system again?

I am only really interested in correction up to 200hz.

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Guys, stupid question here, but what does ARC actually adjust when it comes to both speakers and subwoofers?

For example, for a subwoofers there are only so many things you can adjust: crossover, phase, volume or gain, etc. What does Arc actually adjust?



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There is never stupid question, not asking is stupid.
I strongly suggest you to have a look at this page: https://www.anthemarc.com/, their explanations will certainly be much better than mine, overall because I haven't really understood the whole of ARC and I am still using the automatic mode .
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Seems like people are still generally happy with Genesis although it still requires a bit of work to get the phasing/distance between subs and main all dialed in. Are you guys who are doing the phasing/distance before arc finding that you have to go back after the filters are applied (Filters affect phase) and having to fine-tune your prior settings or is Genesis not messing things up too terribly bad?
I don't think your message got an answer -- here is mine.

1. I measure speaker distances first and enter them into my (STR) preamp.

2. Then I do corrections. The STR preamp holds 4 profiles, which I use for slightly different room gain settings and such.

3. Using a 3d-party software, I set the sub phase for each channel, running the signal through profile #2 on the Anthem. I chose #2 because at present the auto-phase module doesn't affect that.

4. Because, as you said, filters affect phase, one might iterate through steps #2 and #3 until there is no improvement. I didn't do that, but I did run the ARC phase-adjustment module, to make sure profile #1 is free of past phase settings.

5. Based on measurements of my setup, differences among profiles are not large enough to make phase settings
profile-specific. So I just leave the sub phase alone from then on unless I make major changes in the correction. The correctness of this setting can be verified by running the ARC phase-adjustment module again (if your gear supports that) and seeing if there is a change, or by measuring to see if big swings in FR near the xover frequency occur.

I hope that's helpful.

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Hi there,
Currently using version 1018867.
Is there a better version to use? I know some updated versions had bugs but didn't know if there was a updated version that's bug free and better than the one I'm using now?
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Currently using version 1018867.
Is there a better version to use? I know some updated versions had bugs but didn't know if there was a updated version that's bug free and better than the one I'm using now?
1.1.0.9006 is the best version. The latest version 9105 which is the one after 9006 had some bugs. If you go back to post #816 of this thread I posted a link to my google drive and you can download it there.

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Agreed! 9006 is the best version. I don't know why 9105 is still posted, it's so buggy.

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1.1.0.9006 is the best version. The latest version 9105 which is the one after 9006 had some bugs. If you go back to post #816 of this thread I posted a link to my google drive and you can download it there.

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Thank you, just downloaded so will install and try this version. Would you recommend taking new measurements or uploading the one's from the previous version I had?
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Take new measurements.

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I’m trying to find the best placement of my subs and wondering about the Quick Measure feature.

Does the Quick Measure output a channels corrected frequency response or the uncalibrated?
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Thank you, just downloaded so will install and try this version. Would you recommend taking new measurements or uploading the one's from the previous version I had?
Yup like Delija said, take new measurements. A while ago I wrote Anthem and asked them and they said we should take new measurements whenever a new version of Genesis is installed.

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Hi there, would you mind sending the mac version please?
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