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HT Receiver Recommendations

I am looking for an HT receiver for the following setup. I want the emphasis to be on quality sound and not frills.
Small room 14x14x9
5.2.2 Klipsch 8 ohm speakers
Two pre outs needed for subwoofers only
5 HDMI inputs
1 ARC HDMI output
No pandora or other applications are needed
Auto room correction with microphone
Budget $550

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Denon AVR-S740H ($350 at bestbuy.com).
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@ColtOne the denon is a good option, but check the deals thread and the great found deals forum for even more deals. These are all 2017/2018 models that are either on sale or clearance for less than your budget. All of them have a dedicated thread too so you can read everything there is to know about sound, features and setup there.


Denon x1500/x2500/x3400/x3500h
Onkyo rz630/730/830
Pioneer lx103/303/503
Yamaha rx-v685 and tsr-7850 (costco)
Sony str-dn1080

AC4L sells refurbed gear, which I am not promoting, but they have an excellent search tool to really get into the specifics and find exactly what you are looking for. For example here is everything under $599, you have like 50 to choose from. Edit the parameters on the left nav bar to get it down to exactly what you are looking for. https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/avreceiver/home-audio/receivers-amps/home-theater-receivers/1.html?store_price[]=0-586


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For $550 you can do a lot better than the s740 which is an entry level 7 channel receiver.

Yamaha TSR-7850 from Costco
Onkyo RZ830
Denon x3400 and maybe x3500 if you can find one on closeout
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World Wide Stereo got a epic $386 deal on the Onkyo TX-RZ630, go check it out whenever you get a chance. For now, it's probably the best way to get 5.1.4 or 7.1.2 Atmos/DTS:X without spending a fortune.

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For $550 you can do a lot better than the s740 ...
I agree. But at $350 the S740:
- is well-priced;
- meets the OP's requirements; and
- leaves $200 in his pocket.

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@eljaycanuck I get your point, I've had the S740H for over 6 months old and I can conclude that it is a very good receiver at price point. For just $50 more, if you want a better version of Audyseey and slightly higher watts per channel, step up to the AVR-X1500H.
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I know you dont want all the special stuff but I have the yamaha 870 and i think its down to 430 at accessories4less. It has great sound and 100 watts a channel and its stable to 4 ohms according to the manual.
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But at $350 the S740:
- is well-priced;
- meets the OP's requirements; and
- leaves $200 in his pocket.
If the OP wants two independent subwoofer outputs, that narrows the selection quite a lot.

I don't know what AVRs have them at lower prices than the Denon AVR-X3300W/X3400H/X3500H. (That series has Audyssey XT32/ SubEq, which has semi-independent equalization of two subs.)
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If the OP wants two independent subwoofer outputs, that narrows the selection quite a lot. ...
I agree. But I didn't see independent outputs specified in the OP's original post, so I didn't suggest an AVR that had them.

The only requirement of the OP that the S740 fails to meet...
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No pandora or other applications are needed
...is one that every other AVR will also fail to meet, so it's essentially a moot point.

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If the OP wants two independent subwoofer outputs, that narrows the selection quite a lot.



I don't know what AVRs have them at lower prices than the Denon AVR-X3300W/X3400H/X3500H. (That series has Audyssey XT32/ SubEq, which has semi-independent equalization of two subs.)


Thanks for making this distinction. I do want two independently configurable sub pre outs. I recently read on here that the Yamaha RX-A2060 was the first in that lineup to include that feature. Makes me wonder if all models after have this feature as well?

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Thanks for making this distinction. I do want two independently configurable sub pre outs. ...
In that case, please disregard my suggestion.
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@ColtOne ,

I just picked up the Denon X2400H from Amazon for a really great price. It has dual sub outs as well.

Here is the link that I posted in the deals thread:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/122-g...29-amazon.html

If you have a Fry's near you, they have the Denon X3500H with Audyssey XT32 on sale for just a little more than what I paid for the X2400H. Unfortunately, I don't have a Fry's near me, so I had to go the other route...which hasn't been dissapointing at all. I've been extremely pleased with the X2400. It has been a major upgrade over my previous AVR.

Here's the link for the X3500H:
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Thanks for making this distinction. I do want two independently configurable sub pre outs. I recently read on here that the Yamaha RX-A2060 was the first in that lineup to include that feature. Makes me wonder if all models after have this feature as well?
Your only option then would be to try and find a Denon X3300, 3400 or 3500 close to your budget. SubEq included in their version of Audyssey will set the distance (delay) and level independently for 2 subs and then EQ them as one.

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@ColtOne ,

I just picked up the Denon X2400H from Amazon for a really great price. It has dual sub outs as well.

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They get the same signal, though. Not much practical difference from an external Y adapter.

That's not intended as a criticism. You can spend a lot more and get the same.
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They get the same signal, though. Not much practical difference from an external Y adapter.

That's not intended as a criticism. You can spend a lot more and get the same.
Right on. I overlooked him stating in his last comment that he was indeed looking for the subEQ option. In that case, he should definitely be looking for a Fry's
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if he doesn't need a phono input then the x3400 is in his range
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Thank you everyone for the helpful replies.

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Accessories 4 less has the Yamaha RX-A880 for $549.99.. that's what I would do.
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More research on dual independent subs

Again thank you all for you help so far. I have assembled more info below.

I called each of the following companies to find out which of their receiver model / series has dual independent subwoofer preouts. Here is what I found.

Yamaha Aventage
RX-A20X0 and RX-A30X0 series

Marantz
SR6012 SR6013 and above including the SR7011 SR7012 SR8012

Denon
AVR-X3400H AVR-X3500H AVR-X4400H AVR-X4500H AVR-X6500H AVR-X8500H

I have raised my budget a couple hundred dollars but still some of these are out of my price range.

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I already gave you the link for the x3400 which is in your price range, unless you're in Canada and can't order from them.
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I finally made my choice today after considering the advice given here and the initial plus the following criteria.

Price under $900
Individual dual subwoofer outputs
7.2 or more

The AVR’s that all met all the criteria and available on A4L are:

AVR-X3400H
SR6012
AVR-X4400H
AVR-X3500H
RX-A2070
RX-A3050
SR6013
Elite SC-LX701
TX-RZ920
AVR-X4500H
RX-A3060
TX-RZ1100

I compared them all SXS on zkelectronics.com and found the sweet spot AVR for me was the Denon AVR-X4400H. I placed the order today.

Thanks for all the help and I hope my research can help others with similar needs.

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@ColtOne good job! However, the zkelectronics site is flawed. It mirrors many other sites, so if their information is wrong then it will be on their site as well and they do not correct it. the king of receivers @jdsmoothie pointed that out to me last year, so I stopped using it because of the errors.

That being said, the x4400 was the best HT receiver under $1500 for 2017 and now the x4500h is the best 9 channel HT receiver under $1500 for 2018, according to the master switch. https://www.themasterswitch.com/best-av-receivers
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