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HELP! - 5.2.2 Receiver

Hi All,

Hope you can help, I am looking for a receiver that will be able to play 5.1.2 with an option to add an additional sub in the future.

All of my speakers are of the Klipsch Reference series. The issue I am having is that the front 2 standing speakers are R-820F and require 150 RMS @ 8 ohms continuous. When I called Klipsch Support, they seemed to indicate that a receiver slightly slower in power would be acceptable.

I found the Onkyo TX-RZ 820, which is 130 watts RMS and would work according to product support.

1.) Does this receiver have good dependability/reliability? I am seeing a lot of HDMI issues online (even a few posts about HDMI issues in the last few months). The $499 price is enticing.

2.) Do you recommend an other receivers with good reliability for me?

I would rather not spend $1k or 1.5k for a receiver but, maybe I have no choice?

Any and all help would be appreciated!

- Pete
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Hi All,

Hope you can help, I am looking for a receiver that will be able to play 5.1.2 with an option to add an additional sub in the future.

All of my speakers are of the Klipsch Reference series. The issue I am having is that the front 2 standing speakers are R-820F and require 150 RMS @ 8 ohms continuous. When I called Klipsch Support, they seemed to indicate that a receiver slightly slower in power would be acceptable.

I found the Onkyo TX-RZ 820, which is 130 watts RMS and would work according to product support.

1.) Does this receiver have good dependability/reliability? I am seeing a lot of HDMI issues online (even a few posts about HDMI issues in the last few months). The $499 price is enticing.

2.) Do you recommend an other receivers with good reliability for me?

I would rather not spend $1k or 1.5k for a receiver but, maybe I have no choice?

Any and all help would be appreciated!

- Pete
Pete -

Like everyone says Klipsch are very efficient speakers 97db @ 1w. The receiver output ratings are deceiving, so based on your selection, it outputs 130w only when in 2 ch mode. The more channels you add, the power output to each speaker will be reduced. That being said, as long as your speakers are not really far from seating position, Klipsch can perform very well. I personally own Klipsch RP series powered by Denon Avr-X3300w. I absolutely have no problem reaching reference levels but then again it depends on distance, room size etc. I'd suggest getting a receiver that has pre-outs, so in case you feel like they are way under powered you can add an external amplifier.

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@PeteJR24 there are a lot of good options for 5.2.2 right now, so what is your budget?

As moviefreak said, your Klipsch are pretty efficient so you do not need a $1k avr to run them. If you are worried then get something with preouts and add an amp down the road.

Onkyo rz830 and Pioneer lx503 are both on sale right now, are very powerful, have phono for your vinyl, have all of the new 4k features, full preouts for an amp and can even expand to 11 channels should you get the itch to go 7.2.4 one day. If not, they are still good for 5.1.2 in the main zone and have zone2/3 preouts as well as line outs.

Yamaha tsr-7850, Denon x3500h, Marantz sr5013 and Onkyo rz820 are all good 7 channel avrs too, but cannot expand beyond 5.2.2. fwiw.


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Thank you all for your advice! I truly love this community.

The speakers I have now are all Klipsch. They are: (2) 51M, (2) R-820F, (1) R-120SW, (1) R-34C, (2) RIC-65.

My budget is between $450 - $650USD.

1.) Since the R-820F is max 150rms, is there any reason why Klipsch recommends 80% at least rms of the receiver to power them (so at least a 130w rms) receiver at @ 8ohms? (I'm still learning the specs and language)

2.) Would the Onkyo TX-RZ830, or Pioneer LX503 definitely power these speakers sufficiently?

3.) Do any of these 2 receivers have reliability issues?

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The extra sub output is the killer and not needed. My new receiver has a second sub out and I can't tell from my previous Y cable even with different phases so I would not let the second sub out be a factor.

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pretty much any newer 7 channel receiver from the past 3 or so years can do 5.2.2. And as mentioned before Klipsch speakers have a high sensitivity so a $300 AVR can power them fine.

You got good recommendations above for the Onkyo RZ830, Pioneer LX503, Marantz 5013, Denon x3500, etc. They'll all do the trick and have preouts to add a more powerful amp if necessary.

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Thanks All.

Does any particular manufacturer have less problems/issues with reliability than the rest?

I'm just looking for brands to stick to.

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If you want a 7 channel receiver with two independent subwoofer outputs, that might drive you to a Denon AVR-X3400H (2017 model) or 3500 (2018). They include Audyssey XT32 room correction software, plus SubEq, which allows to subs to be equalized semi-independently. ("Semi-" because SubEq sets the delay and volume for each sub, and then equalizes the result as a single unit.) I'd go for the 3400 unless you desperately want some of the features in the 3500 (https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post56087556). (Or, if you can get the 3500 for a comparable price, say from a sale at Fry's Electronics or elsewhere.)

If you don't require independent equalization, don't worry about the number of subwoofer outputs. A simple Y adapter would allow you to connect 2 subs to an AVR with a single sub output.
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So, I'm strongly leaning towards the Onkyo TX-RZ830 with 2 year extended warranty. However, I am worried about CALIBRATION!

I do not know anything about calibration, so 1.) Will the AccuEQ Advanced work well for a novice like me?
2.) If not, is there a site I can follow that will outline how to do manual calibration?

I keep reading how Audyssey is much better, but the Denon receiver I would go for is about $300 more.

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So, I'm strongly leaning towards the Onkyo TX-RZ830 with 2 year extended warranty. However, I am worried about CALIBRATION!

I do not know anything about calibration, so 1.) Will the AccuEQ Advanced work well for a novice like me?
2.) If not, is there a site I can follow that will outline how to do manual calibration?

I keep reading how Audyssey is much better, but the Denon receiver I would go for is about $300 more.

- Pete
Pete, Yamaha is known for reliability if thats all you care about. Onkyo.....not so much. The rz830 is a beast and quite a deal. Other than some clicking issues there are not a lot of complaints about reliability, fwiw.

The rz830 will not calibrate dual subs. Nothing under $700 will except the Denon x3500h. You will need to upgrade to next level receivers for that type of control, ex. (a2070/x4400/sr6012)

Accueq advance is pretty straight forward so take a look through the dedicated 630/730/830 thread, I am sure some owners have setup ideas and comments there. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...receivers.html

good luck!
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