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Best receiver under $500??

I have been using my Yamaha Rx V2600 for about the last 12yrs and it finally is crapping out. Making some crazy loud noises. I figure its time to modernize and get something with Wifi and Bluetooth. Plus these new receivers seem to be about half the weight. Unfortunately not half the size.

I only have 6.5" of height in my cabinet.

Choices

Sony STR- Dn1080 ($458)
Denon AVRX1500H ($399)
Onkyo TX-RZ820 ($499)

These are what ive found that fit the bill of being under $500 and pretty solid looking on paper.

What say you boys? Any option I may be missing?
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for small footprint, check out https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...eos-new/1.html ( listed as new) they also have refurbs in the small form factor for less

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for small footprint, check out https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...eos-new/1.html ( listed as new) they also have refurbs in the small form factor for less
Only 50 watts though my current is 135watts. living room is 15x20 if that helps
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I only have 6.5" of height in my cabinet.

Choices

Sony STR- Dn1080 ($458)
Denon AVRX1500H ($399)
Onkyo TX-RZ820 ($499)

These are what ive found that fit the bill of being under $500 and pretty solid looking on paper.

What say you boys? Any option I may be missing?
You can get a RZ830 for the same price as the 820. However, both exceed your 6.5" limit.
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It's not a good idea to shove a receiver into a hole that is barely larger than the receiver itself. You should leave about 2" of open space above the receiver, and that assumes the front and back are also open. Consider using a fan (or a pair of fans) to ventilate the hot air and bring in cool air. Otherwise, you are asking to have your receiver fail very early in it's life (right after the warranty runs out, if you are unlucky).

Your best bet is a short receiver, like this one:

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...specifications

Alternatively, get a bigger and more powerful receiver, but put it in a better, more open, place.

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Only 50 watts though my current is 135watts. living room is 15x20 if that helps
And how many of those 135 Watts are you actually using currently?

If you have relatively efficient, easy to drive speakers, 50 Watts per channel should be plenty.

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@scrapdiggs you need to move things around in that rack to let the avr be on top or as @RayGuy said, it might be dead in a few months. Another benefit is that you will get a lot more receiver at that price. The most amazing receiver deals right now are the Denon x3400 and onkyo rz730/830.


If you like Yamaha then the tsr-7850 is good. If you like Pioneer then the vsx-lx303 is 9 channels, like the bigger cousin, rz830.


Once you move things around, here is what you can add on top of the piece of equipment that gets stuck in the middle to give your avr room on top. It only takes up 1.5in https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-F...gateway&sr=8-3


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It's not a good idea to shove a receiver into a hole that is barely larger than the receiver itself. You should leave about 2" of open space above the receiver, and that assumes the front and back are also open. Consider using a fan (or a pair of fans) to ventilate the hot air and bring in cool air. Otherwise, you are asking to have your receiver fail very early in it's life (right after the warranty runs out, if you are unlucky).

Your best bet is a short receiver, like this one:

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...specifications

Alternatively, get a bigger and more powerful receiver, but put it in a better, more open, place.
So this definitely could have been my issue but that Yamaha had a pretty good run.

The space is open on both sides but above it definitely only had about 1” max.

It’s one of those wide entertainment centers that has the led fireplace and a space above it for components. The entire space is only 7” high though.

I’m pushing 2 fronts that are Polks and i believe they are 100 watt but I need to check. Everything else is just s big velodyne sub and some ceiling speakers
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Excellent deals at Amazon on 2017 Denon models. Are new, with warranty, from authorized dealers. Got a X4400H a few days ago to replace my old 4311CI. LOVE IT. 11.4 now still messing around, sounds amazing.

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Excellent deals at Amazon on 2017 Denon models. Are new, with warranty, from authorized dealers. Got a X4400H a few days ago to replace my old 4311CI. LOVE IT. 11.4 now still messing around, sounds amazing.

(Discontinued by manufacturer)
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=denon+avr...b_sb_ss_i_11_6
I think these Denons are all quite big.

I love for the Sonys here? I’ve never had a Sony anything but they seem to get good reviews
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I think these Denons are all quite big.

I love for the Sonys here? I’ve never had a Sony anything but they seem to get good reviews
The Denons aren't really big, your parking spot is too small. Joking (kinda) good luck. As far as Sony, I came from Sony (STR-DN1040), before Denon. Perfectly fine pieces. Plenty of power. Just don't "sound" as good as Denon, IMHO, rather Blah. Not as many features dealing with home theater setups. I feel they will last forever. Have old A/B Sony stereo receivers right now in my garage and patio that I got on Craigslist for cheap. Sound fine out there. Just won't be allowed in the house anymore.

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I have been using my Yamaha Rx V2600 for about the last 12yrs and it finally is crapping out. Making some crazy loud noises. I figure its time to modernize and get something with Wifi and Bluetooth. Plus these new receivers seem to be about half the weight. Unfortunately not half the size.



I only have 6.5" of height in my cabinet.



Choices



Sony STR- Dn1080 ($458)

Denon AVRX1500H ($399)

Onkyo TX-RZ820 ($499)



These are what ive found that fit the bill of being under $500 and pretty solid looking on paper.



What say you boys? Any option I may be missing?
Denon AVR x3500 goes on sale at fry's often at 499 and with manager's coupon (20%) that becomes 399. Great price for a great AVR.
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If buying from AccessoriesForLess...
Be sure to check closely their policy for Return Freight....
U may find any $ savings will be eaten by freight costs..

Just my $0.02...
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Be sure to check closely their policy for Return Freight....
U may find any $ savings will be eaten by freight costs..

Just my $0.02...
Absolutely true..definitely would not recommend if you are unsure of what you want. But if you have a specific model in mind, they are awesome. Had an issue with my Yamaha RX-A3070 and they exchanged it no questions asked with an incredibly quick turn around. And i'm sure if someone really ended up just disliking the product, the price is so good you could easily sell it privately and recoup your money.

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Just checked my speakers.

Polk Rti8's (25-200watt)

Polk Csi5 center (25-200 watt)

So I guess I should definitely get something that can at least push 100 watts per channel
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Denon AVR x3500 goes on sale at fry's often at 499 and with manager's coupon (20%) that becomes 399. Great price for a great AVR.

Where do you get this coupon?
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@scrapdiggs sadly the deal is no longer available.


The managers coupon comes via email, I got mine this morning for the deals that start Sunday and run through Sat night. It's typically for the first 20 people or so through the doors in the morning!

someone reported they took the 20% away from promo code items because 20% off the promo code price turns a good deal into a ridiculous deal.

I have been watching my local frys for awhile and they have not had the rz830 or lx503 in stock so I am watching clearance items online. As of last night, here are some great deals if you can get it shipped before they pull the old...oops it's out of stock, sorry!

Denon x4400
Yammy rx-a870 and a1060
Onkyo nr777
Pioneer vsx-lx302

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Just checked my speakers.

Polk Rti8's (25-200watt)

Polk Csi5 center (25-200 watt)

So I guess I should definitely get something that can at least push 100 watts per channel
Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. They are all 8 Ohm speakers with relatively high sensitivity (90 dB), so they should not require a ton of power to play loud. It really depends on how far away from them you sit and how loud you like to play.

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I have been using my Yamaha Rx V2600 for about the last 12yrs and it finally is crapping out. Making some crazy loud noises. I figure its time to modernize and get something with Wifi and Bluetooth. Plus these new receivers seem to be about half the weight. Unfortunately not half the size.

I only have 6.5" of height in my cabinet.

Choices

Sony STR- Dn1080 ($458)
Denon AVRX1500H ($399)
Onkyo TX-RZ820 ($499)

These are what ive found that fit the bill of being under $500 and pretty solid looking on paper.

What say you boys? Any option I may be missing?
interested in gently used? I have a Yamaha aventage 1060 I’m selling for $500. We would had to discuss shipping costs.
I tried to PM you but wouldn’t let me due to my small quantity of posts.
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@scrapdiggs sadly the deal is no longer available.


The managers coupon comes via email, I got mine this morning for the deals that start Sunday and run through Sat night. It's typically for the first 20 people or so through the doors in the morning!

someone reported they took the 20% away from promo code items because 20% off the promo code price turns a good deal into a ridiculous deal.

I have been watching my local frys for awhile and they have not had the rz830 or lx503 in stock so I am watching clearance items online. As of last night, here are some great deals if you can get it shipped before they pull the old...oops it's out of stock, sorry!

Denon x4400
Yammy rx-a870 and a1060
Onkyo nr777
Pioneer vsx-lx302
Ok thanks I’ll keep an eye out and I’ll look at those.

Anyone know much about the Sony 1080?
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Just checked my speakers.

Polk Rti8's (25-200watt)

Polk Csi5 center (25-200 watt)

So I guess I should definitely get something that can at least push 100 watts per channel
Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. They are all 8 Ohm speakers with relatively high sensitivity (90 dB), so they should not require a ton of power to play loud. It really depends on how far away from them you sit and how loud you like to play.
Yea i have no idea. While my Yamaha is crashed I found an old harman kardon avr 100 in the garage and I’m using that now. Things don’t sound too bad to be honest but I’m missing the remote. The sub is definitely not getting enough power
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I have been using my Yamaha Rx V2600 for about the last 12yrs and it finally is crapping out. Making some crazy loud noises. I figure its time to modernize and get something with Wifi and Bluetooth. Plus these new receivers seem to be about half the weight. Unfortunately not half the size.

I only have 6.5" of height in my cabinet.

Choices

Sony STR- Dn1080 ($458)
Denon AVRX1500H ($399)
Onkyo TX-RZ820 ($499)

These are what ive found that fit the bill of being under $500 and pretty solid looking on paper.

What say you boys? Any option I may be missing?
interested in gently used? I have a Yamaha aventage 1060 I’️m selling for $500. We would had to discuss shipping costs.
I tried to PM you but wouldn’️t let me due to my small quantity of posts.
Yea with only 5 posts that probably doesn’t help. Is it the RX-A1060BL?

I’d be interested. I’ll try and message you. Where you shipping from and do you take Paypal?

Why you getting rid of it?
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Yea with only 5 posts that probably doesn’t help. Is it the RX-A1060BL?

I’d be interested. I’ll try and message you. Where you shipping from and do you take Paypal?

Why you getting rid of it?
I’m in Idaho. I just got the 1080 because I put in a projector as well and needed the dual zone 1 hdmi outs. It is the RX-A1060. Let me know. I’ll take palypal if you’d cover the fees? I’m sure we can work something out. I’m not sure if they’ll allow an email but I’ll try for future communication....

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I’m in Idaho. I just got the 1080 because I put in a projector as well and needed the dual zone 1 hdmi outs. It is the RX-A1060. Let me know. I’ll take palypal if you’d cover the fees? I’m sure we can work something out. I’m not sure if they’ll allow an email but I’ll try for future communication....

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That one was just selling new on Frys for $399
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Ok....narrowing it down boys!


These ones...which would you pick?

Pioneer VSXLX303 ($450)

Onkyo TX-NR686 ($399)

Sony STR-DN1080 ($450)
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Ok....narrowing it down boys!


These ones...which would you pick?

Pioneer VSXLX303 ($450)

Onkyo TX-NR686 ($399)

Sony STR-DN1080 ($450)
Can't comment on those. Up to you. Get some more space for whatever you get, or they all will have short lifespans.
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Can't comment on those. Up to you. Get some more space for whatever you get, or they all will have short lifespans.
I decided to put it on top of the cabinet. Had to convince the wife. We are good now. No more space limit
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I decided to put it on top of the cabinet. Had to convince the wife. We are good now. No more space limit
Allright...Denon it is!! Either way, good luck, stay updated.
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Ok....narrowing it down boys!


These ones...which would you pick?

Pioneer VSXLX303 ($450)

Onkyo TX-NR686 ($399)

Sony STR-DN1080 ($450)


So the 686 is the cheapest of the bunch but has some good features (on sale for less at Frys fyi). The lx303 is the same receiver as the 686 with detachable power cord, 2 more channels (9) has mcacc instead of accueq and has video upscaling. The Sony 1080 is very well loved here, but at $450, there are better options. For example if you go up another $48 you can get the Onkyo rz830 which is a 9 channel beast for HT or a 2017 Denon x3400 which is an excellent 7 channel avr for HT, with full preouts (no phono though).

In that price range, Frys has these on clearance...

Pioneer vsx-lx302 (7 channel version of the lx303)
Yamaha rx-a1060 and rx-a770/a870
onkyo tx-nr777 (bigger brother to the 686 from 2017)
Pioneer vsx-1131 (similar to 686/302 but 2016 model)

Good luck!
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Ok....narrowing it down boys!


These ones...which would you pick?

Pioneer VSXLX303 ($450)

Onkyo TX-NR686 ($399)

Sony STR-DN1080 ($450)


So the 686 is the cheapest of the bunch but has some good features (on sale for less at Frys fyi). The lx303 is the same receiver as the 686 with detachable power cord, 2 more channels (9) has mcacc instead of accueq and has video upscaling. The Sony 1080 is very well loved here, but at $450, there are better options. For example if you go up another $48 you can get the Onkyo rz830 which is a 9 channel beast for HT or a 2017 Denon x3400 which is an excellent 7 channel avr for HT, with full preouts (no phono though).

In that price range, Frys has these on clearance...

Pioneer vsx-lx302 (7 channel version of the lx303)
Yamaha rx-a1060 and rx-a770/a870
onkyo tx-nr777 (bigger brother to the 686 from 2017)
Pioneer vsx-1131 (similar to 686/302 but 2016 model)

Good luck!
So I was considering pulling the trigger on the Pioneer 303 but after reading reviews on the UI and menu system being super complex I got Leary of it. I want something simple which is what I’ve heard a lot of good things about the Sony.

Just curious what makes others in the $450 price point better than the Sony?

I only run a 5.1 system and likely will never go past 7 channel. I do use a dual zone to provide audio to the pool area.
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