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Hi Everyone, visiting friends who have a pretty nice theater system based around a Sunfire Grand TGR-3 AVR 7.1 200W per channel unit. The unit is having some issues and they want to replace it. What would you experts recommend in the $1K to $1.5K range? Looking forward to your thoughts. Appreciate the help!
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Hi Everyone, visiting friends who have a pretty nice theater system based around a Sunfire Grand TGR-3 AVR 7.1 200W per channel unit. The unit is having some issues and they want to replace it. What would you experts recommend in the $1K to $1.5K range? Looking forward to your thoughts. Appreciate the help!
For most features for the buck: Denon x4500h. But it will be buggy and may need resetting and rebooting several times. So if your friend is not technically an expert, choose a more reliable unit.

I moved from a Yamaha AVR (15 years old) to Denon (1 week back). Several reboots and factory resets later, it seems that it is working. But it stops working randomly and requires a reboot which is not hard from me. Yamaha never required a reboot or a factory reset.

Just my two cents. Check out Official Denon threads for numerous questions and reboots.

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my Denon has been great, has never needed a reboot and never stops working, maybe I am lucky.
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my Denon has been great, has never needed a reboot and never stops working, maybe I am lucky.

i have a denon 1712 i bought new. never a problem except needing to reset it once.
also a denon 3300 since 2016, no problems either
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Thanks for the recommendations!! Looking on Amazon its $1600 and a great multi-function unit. They also have the AVR S750h (discontinued/new) for $499 vs $999 orig retail. Any thoughts? Less power but looks like matching features except no phono input. Any thoughts on that unit! Thanks again guys!!!
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Thanks for the recommendations!! Looking on Amazon its $1600 and a great multi-function unit. They also have the AVR S750h (discontinued/new) for $499 vs $999 orig retail. Any thoughts? Less power but looks like matching features except no phono input. Any thoughts on that unit! Thanks again guys!!!
Are your friends using all 7.1 channels? I Second all the Denon suggestions. New X4400H(2017) a few weeks ago half price. Price is now back up. Sound is amazing, running 11.4.
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Well, this may be a stupid suggestion, but if the problems you refer to with the Sunfire don't affect the amp section, he could reuse the Sunfire as an amplifier only and then just get a new AV preamp to feed it. The AV preamp would connect to the 7.1 analog inputs on the Sunfire and it would act as a pass-through power amp.

The amps in the Sunfire are probably better than what he will find in Denon and Yamaha AVR's, and this would allow him to retain those amps rather than tossing the Sunfire out. An AVR preamp has the potential to be better than an all-in-one receiver, though that depends on the individual equipment selected. Something like the Emotiva MC-700 combined with the repurposed Sunfire amp might be quite nice for a total of $729 (reusing the Sunfire).

If he wants to eventually do more than 7 channels, then a modern AVR might be better, but If he is only going to have 7 channels, the AV preamp/processor route might not be a bad idea.

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Well, this may be a stupid suggestion, but if the problems you refer to with the Sunfire don't affect the amp section, he could reuse the Sunfire as an amplifier only and then just get a new AV preamp to feed it. The AV preamp would connect to the 7.1 analog inputs on the Sunfire and it would act as a pass-through power amp.



The amps in the Sunfire are probably better than what he will find in Denon and Yamaha AVR's, and this would allow him to retain those amps rather than tossing the Sunfire out. An AVR preamp has the potential to be better than an all-in-one receiver, though that depends on the individual equipment selected. Something like the Emotiva MC-700 combined with the repurposed Sunfire amp might be quite nice for a total of $729 (reusing the Sunfire).



If he wants to eventually do more than 7 channels, then a modern AVR might be better, but If he is only going to have 7 channels, the AV preamp/processor route might not be a bad idea.
Great idea. You will get the best of both worlds. Sunfire TGR 3 has an MSRP of $4999. While I have not used it, the reviews are very good and he's preamp inputs.

In that case Denon X3500h (on sale at Best Buy) or X3400h on sale at many online dealers will be very good.

Just make sure it is new and that you are buying it from an authorized dealer (otherwise no warranty).

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if they only have a 7.1 set up an outlaw 975 or 976 (if 4k is needed) would be a cost effective pre-amp replacement

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