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Best Budget AVR 2.1

Last weekend I purchased two ELAC debut b6.2 speakers and a Denon AVR S540bt from BB. I did a lot of research on the ELACs but the Denon just happened so I wanted to see if there was a better option before my 15 day return window expired.

I currently just have this 2.0 setup in my living room and will probably add a sub later for 2.1. I mainly watch tv along with some movies and music to a lesser extent. I know the receiver doesn't make a huge difference for 2.0 but I want to make sure I'm driving my ELACs as well as possible and I don't want to feel the need to throw my AVR away in a year.

What I'm looking for:
-At least 5.1 capabilities for future expansion
-Bluetooth is a plus. If not, I can add an adapter later
-Ideally in the $350 or under range, but flexible

Options I found thus far (I'm open to anything though)
Denon AVR-S540BT – (spent $200) – would keep it along with the 2 year warranty
Onkyo TX-NR676 (Refurbished – A4L) $230
Denon AVR-X1400H (Refurbished – A4L) - $280
Marantz NR1609 (Refurbished – A4L) - $350

My other option is to take my Yamaha RX-765 in my basement and replace it instead and move my Yamaha upstairs for the ELACs. If I do this, I would be looking for an AVR in the $500 +/- range to drive my 5.1 basement setup (2 Polk Monitor 70s, Polk CS2 center, Polk monitor 40 surround, Bic PL 200 sub). If I do this option, I would want something that is a decent upgrade from my Yamaha.

Sorry for the long post, I appreciate anyone's input.
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Last weekend I purchased two ELAC debut b6.2 speakers and a Denon AVR S540bt from BB. I did a lot of research on the ELACs but the Denon just happened so I wanted to see if there was a better option before my 15 day return window expired.

I currently just have this 2.0 setup in my living room and will probably add a sub later for 2.1. I mainly watch tv along with some movies and music to a lesser extent. I know the receiver doesn't make a huge difference for 2.0 but I want to make sure I'm driving my ELACs as well as possible and I don't want to feel the need to throw my AVR away in a year.

What I'm looking for:
-At least 5.1 capabilities for future expansion
-Bluetooth is a plus. If not, I can add an adapter later
-Ideally in the $350 or under range, but flexible

Options I found thus far (I'm open to anything though)
Denon AVR-S540BT – (spent $200) – would keep it along with the 2 year warranty
Onkyo TX-NR676 (Refurbished – A4L) $230
Denon AVR-X1400H (Refurbished – A4L) - $280
Marantz NR1609 (Refurbished – A4L) - $350

My other option is to take my Yamaha RX-765 in my basement and replace it instead and move my Yamaha upstairs for the ELACs. If I do this, I would be looking for an AVR in the $500 +/- range to drive my 5.1 basement setup (2 Polk Monitor 70s, Polk CS2 center, Polk monitor 40 surround, Bic PL 200 sub). If I do this option, I would want something that is a decent upgrade from my Yamaha.

Sorry for the long post, I appreciate anyone's input.
If $350 is your absolute max, I'd go with the new Denon X2400 from A4L. You get audyssey XT, decent power and a bunch of features plus full 3 year warranty. If you can increase your budget, the X3400 will give Audyssey XT32, dual sub eq, pre-outs and loads of features.
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Last weekend I purchased two ELAC debut b6.2 speakers and a Denon AVR S540bt from BB. I did a lot of research on the ELACs but the Denon just happened so I wanted to see if there was a better option before my 15 day return window expired.

I currently just have this 2.0 setup in my living room and will probably add a sub later for 2.1. I mainly watch tv along with some movies and music to a lesser extent. I know the receiver doesn't make a huge difference for 2.0 but I want to make sure I'm driving my ELACs as well as possible and I don't want to feel the need to throw my AVR away in a year.

What I'm looking for:
-At least 5.1 capabilities for future expansion
-Bluetooth is a plus. If not, I can add an adapter later
-Ideally in the $350 or under range, but flexible

Options I found thus far (I'm open to anything though)
Denon AVR-S540BT – (spent $200) – would keep it along with the 2 year warranty
Onkyo TX-NR676 (Refurbished – A4L) $230
Denon AVR-X1400H (Refurbished – A4L) - $280
Marantz NR1609 (Refurbished – A4L) - $350

My other option is to take my Yamaha RX-765 in my basement and replace it instead and move my Yamaha upstairs for the ELACs. If I do this, I would be looking for an AVR in the $500 +/- range to drive my 5.1 basement setup (2 Polk Monitor 70s, Polk CS2 center, Polk monitor 40 surround, Bic PL 200 sub). If I do this option, I would want something that is a decent upgrade from my Yamaha.

Sorry for the long post, I appreciate anyone's input.
If $350 is your absolute max, I'd go with the new Denon X2400 from A4L. You get audyssey XT, decent power and a bunch of features plus full 3 year warranty. If you can increase your budget, the X3400 will give Audyssey XT32, dual sub eq, pre-outs and loads of features.
Thanks. I can always increase, I’m just trying to keep the wife from getting mad. Would you buy these new or refurb?
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If $350 is your absolute max, I'd go with the new Denon X2400 from A4L. You get audyssey XT, decent power and a bunch of features plus full 3 year warranty. If you can increase your budget, the X3400 will give Audyssey XT32, dual sub eq, pre-outs and loads of features.


This is a great option. I have the same speakers as you OP with the previous model x1400. I run mine with dual subs and they are excellent. I enjoy them for music and movies. I would personally prefer to also have a center if they were mostly for TV. But that can come later if need be.

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Thanks. I can always increase, I’m just trying to keep the wife from getting mad. Would you buy these new or refurb?
Having upgraded from audyssey multi-eq to audyssey XT32 made a very noticeable improvement. The X3500 also has pre-outs should you want to add an external amp later. If budget allows, go with the X3500 with 3 year warranty. The X2400 is also a very good unit, but doesn't have pre-outs which may not be a deal breaker for you. Note: you can always shop around to try to find a better deal.

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Having upgraded from audyssey multi-eq to audyssey XT32 made a very noticeable improvement. The X3500 also has pre-outs should you want to add an external amp later. If budget allows, go with the X3500 with 3 year warranty. The X2400 is also a very good unit, but doesn't have pre-outs which may not be a deal breaker for you. Note: you can always shop around to try to find a better deal.


I'm totally ignorant here but it seems odd to me that the upgraded audessy would make that much of a difference. But I here it all the time so must be something to it.

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Last weekend I purchased two ELAC debut b6.2 speakers and a Denon AVR S540bt from BB. I did a lot of research on the ELACs but the Denon just happened so I wanted to see if there was a better option before my 15 day return window expired.

I currently just have this 2.0 setup in my living room and will probably add a sub later for 2.1. I mainly watch tv along with some movies and music to a lesser extent. I know the receiver doesn't make a huge difference for 2.0 but I want to make sure I'm driving my ELACs as well as possible and I don't want to feel the need to throw my AVR away in a year.

What I'm looking for:
-At least 5.1 capabilities for future expansion
-Bluetooth is a plus. If not, I can add an adapter later
-Ideally in the $350 or under range, but flexible

Options I found thus far (I'm open to anything though)
Denon AVR-S540BT – (spent $200) – would keep it along with the 2 year warranty
Onkyo TX-NR676 (Refurbished – A4L) $230
Denon AVR-X1400H (Refurbished – A4L) - $280
Marantz NR1609 (Refurbished – A4L) - $350

My other option is to take my Yamaha RX-765 in my basement and replace it instead and move my Yamaha upstairs for the ELACs. If I do this, I would be looking for an AVR in the $500 +/- range to drive my 5.1 basement setup (2 Polk Monitor 70s, Polk CS2 center, Polk monitor 40 surround, Bic PL 200 sub). If I do this option, I would want something that is a decent upgrade from my Yamaha.

Sorry for the long post, I appreciate anyone's input.
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Last weekend I purchased two ELAC debut b6.2 speakers and a Denon AVR S540bt from BB. I did a lot of research on the ELACs but the Denon just happened so I wanted to see if there was a better option before my 15 day return window expired.

I currently just have this 2.0 setup in my living room and will probably add a sub later for 2.1. I mainly watch tv along with some movies and music to a lesser extent. I know the receiver doesn't make a huge difference for 2.0 but I want to make sure I'm driving my ELACs as well as possible and I don't want to feel the need to throw my AVR away in a year.

What I'm looking for:
-At least 5.1 capabilities for future expansion
-Bluetooth is a plus. If not, I can add an adapter later
-Ideally in the $350 or under range, but flexible

Options I found thus far (I'm open to anything though)
Denon AVR-S540BT – (spent $200) – would keep it along with the 2 year warranty
Onkyo TX-NR676 (Refurbished – A4L) $230
Denon AVR-X1400H (Refurbished – A4L) - $280
Marantz NR1609 (Refurbished – A4L) - $350

My other option is to take my Yamaha RX-765 in my basement and replace it instead and move my Yamaha upstairs for the ELACs. If I do this, I would be looking for an AVR in the $500 +/- range to drive my 5.1 basement setup (2 Polk Monitor 70s, Polk CS2 center, Polk monitor 40 surround, Bic PL 200 sub). If I do this option, I would want something that is a decent upgrade from my Yamaha.

Sorry for the long post, I appreciate anyone's input.
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How would that compare to the Denons mentioned above?
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How would that compare to the Denons mentioned above?
Marantz and Denon owned by the same company, so similar. Marantz is said to be a bit sweeter sounding, most notable when listening to music. I have owned and enjoyed Marantz products and liked their sound quality, especially in Pure Direct mode.

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I'm totally ignorant here but it seems odd to me that the upgraded audessy would make that much of a difference. But I here it all the time so must be something to it.
The improvement can mainly be attributed to considerably higher filter resolution for satellite and subs and the extra measurement positions (vs MultEQ).

In addition, most MultEQ XT32 implementations incorporate SubEQ HT which sets level trims and delays/distances for two subs independently and then proceeds to EQ both subs "as one" based on their combined response.

See the descriptions and chart here: What is the difference between the various versions of MultEQ?.
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The improvement can mainly be attributed to considerably higher filter resolution for satellite and subs and the extra measurement positions (vs MultEQ).

In addition, most MultEQ XT32 implementations incorporate SubEQ HT which sets level trims and delays/distances for two subs independently and then proceeds to EQ both subs "as one" based on their combined response.

See the descriptions and chart here: What is the difference between the various versions of MultEQ?.
Thanks for the quick run down thats helpful.

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If $350 is your absolute max, I'd go with the new Denon X2400 from A4L. You get audyssey XT, decent power and a bunch of features plus full 3 year warranty. If you can increase your budget, the X3400 will give Audyssey XT32, dual sub eq, pre-outs and loads of features.
this x2400 is cheaper on Amazon and no tax

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If $350 is your absolute max, I'd go with the new Denon X2400 from A4L. You get audyssey XT, decent power and a bunch of features plus full 3 year warranty. If you can increase your budget, the X3400 will give Audyssey XT32, dual sub eq, pre-outs and loads of features.
this x2400 is cheaper on Amazon and no tax
I’m leaning towards getting the x2400. I checked safe and sound this morning while at work then again when I got home and the price went up $50 during that time. I’ll keep checking.
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^^^ It went up $60 since my previous post

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