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xcrossover 08-20-2019 07:54 PM

Onkyo RZ710 adjustments after setup
 
Do you adjust your speaker db (+ or -) after going through the automatic process? I feel like mine is not bright enough (sound) and I came from a Onkyo TX-SR608 which I find louder/brighter?


by default I think it put my speakers +2db setting after calibration.

xcrossover 08-22-2019 06:22 PM

no takers?

Pennhaven 08-22-2019 07:08 PM

I find the levels with AccuEq on my RZ710 are fine except for the subwoofers which I lower a few dB. I'm running 5.2.2.

If you are adjusting all of your speakers +2 dB, then all you are accomplishing is increasing the overall volume, which of course is the purpose of the volume control. Or a particular input's relative level can be changed in Setup with IntelliVolume. The capability of adjusting individual speaker levels is intended to correct if some individual channel levels are out of balance relative to the others, possibly due to listening position relative to the speaker locations, or a miss-calcaulation by AccuEq due to some anomaly in the room.

If you want a "brighter" sound, you should be adjusting the equalizer or treble control, not the speaker levels.

[Edit]Sorry! I just realized I misread the OP!

I thought it read "I set" +2db, instead of the actual "it set". So some of my response wasn't on target. Apparently AccuEq is setting the levels +2 dB on all channels to achieve uniform reference levels. This is to compensate for speaker placement relative to listening position, room dynamics, or speaker sensitivity. If it doesn't sound loud enough relative to your previous experience, then the volume control is the simple solution, though it can be augmented by adjusting the IntelliVolume setting for each input you use. And, finally, if "brightness" is missing, you may be looking for more high frequency emphasis, and that, as I said, can be addressed with equalizer or treble control changes.[/Edit]

xcrossover 08-24-2019 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennhaven (Post 58460362)
I find the levels with AccuEq on my RZ710 are fine except for the subwoofers which I lower a few dB. I'm running 5.2.2.

If you are adjusting all of your speakers +2 dB, then all you are accomplishing is increasing the overall volume, which of course is the purpose of the volume control. Or a particular input's relative level can be changed in Setup with IntelliVolume. The capability of adjusting individual speaker levels is intended to correct if some individual channel levels are out of balance relative to the others, possibly due to listening position relative to the speaker locations, or a miss-calcaulation by AccuEq due to some anomaly in the room.

If you want a "brighter" sound, you should be adjusting the equalizer or treble control, not the speaker levels.

[Edit]Sorry! I just realized I misread the OP!

I thought it read "I set" +2db, instead of the actual "it set". So some of my response wasn't on target. Apparently AccuEq is setting the levels +2 dB on all channels to achieve uniform reference levels. This is to compensate for speaker placement relative to listening position, room dynamics, or speaker sensitivity. If it doesn't sound loud enough relative to your previous experience, then the volume control is the simple solution, though it can be augmented by adjusting the IntelliVolume setting for each input you use. And, finally, if "brightness" is missing, you may be looking for more high frequency emphasis, and that, as I said, can be addressed with equalizer or treble control changes.[/Edit]

Ah thanks!

do you have a custom equaliser setting set? i came from a 608 and that seemed to have more pre-set settings (like, rock, pop etc)

Pennhaven 08-25-2019 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xcrossover (Post 58468612)
Ah thanks!

do you have a custom equaliser setting set? i came from a 608 and that seemed to have more pre-set settings (like, rock, pop etc)

No, I'm quite satisfied with how AccuEq set mine. I think it's actually better than my previous Yamaha AVR with Audyssey. Prior to that I had an Onkyo RC360. I felt the room correction algorithm on that provided a "warmer" (more upper bass - lower mid-range emphasis) sound signature than either the Yamaha or the RZ710, not "brighter" (more high frequency emphasis).

My suggestion is to stay with what AccuEq set for you for a while and see if your ears don't learn to appreciate it. If you're still not satisfied and are not comfortable tweaking the equalizer blindly, another option would be to get a calibrated mic and software to actually measure how the room response is at your listening position. This should either confirm or refute your subjective impression, and when making equalizer corrections, allow you to objectively measure the change.

xcrossover 08-25-2019 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennhaven (Post 58469530)
No, I'm quite satisfied with how AccuEq set mine. I think it's actually better than my previous Yamaha AVR with Audyssey. Prior to that I had an Onkyo RC360. I felt the room correction algorithm on that provided a "warmer" (more upper bass - lower mid-range emphasis) sound signature than either the Yamaha or the RZ710, not "brighter" (more high frequency emphasis).

My suggestion is to stay with what AccuEq set for you for a while and see if your ears don't learn to appreciate it. If you're still not satisfied and are not comfortable tweaking the equalizer blindly, another option would be to get a calibrated mic and software to actually measure how the room response is at your listening position. This should either confirm or refute your subjective impression, and when making equalizer corrections, allow you to objectively measure the change.



I did check my speakers were set to -1db fronts. I think I'm just going deaf. when I watch movies it sits to around 50 (volume) but I tend to turn it up to around 72 when I listen to music. maybe I'm just getting bored haha ill recalibrate this again.


I have bi-amped my speakers though so I have the other frequency coming out of the speakers.


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