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HELP WITH 11-Channels - XPA-11 / MX-A5200 / Monoprice....

Looking for suggestions from those with experience on these 11-channel amps.

I was going to inherit an XPA-11 from my brother as he was upgrading, but he decided to sell it instead....oh well.

I will be running an Anthem AVM60 on a 7.2.4 setup.
Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers and Horizon as LCR (with Raals), Revel S16's as surrounds and 4 x ATMOS in ceiling (TBD) and 2 x PSA v1812s.

I need 11 Channels of amplification...

My brother liked his XPA-11 besides having to switch +/- for polarity reasons. But he claims he cant hear the difference between his new HALO Parasounds and his XPA-11.

Choices are:
  1. Emotiva XPA-11
  2. Yamaha MX-a5200 (can get it at same price as XPA-11)
  3. Monolith 11-channel
  4. I can also get a used combo Parasound Halo a31 + Anthem PVA-8 for $3800 (this is a lot more than the other 3) or an used Anthem MCA 325 + PVA-8 for $3500.

Would rather not spend the extra $ on the used combos for $3500+ specially if it the incremental benefit is not there....I can spend those $1500+ elsewhere.

Any suggestions?
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Looking for suggestions from those with experience on these 11-channel amps.



I was going to inherit an XPA-11 from my brother as he was upgrading, but he decided to sell it instead....oh well.



I will be running an Anthem AVM60 on a 7.2.4 setup.

Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers and Horizon as LCR (with Raals), Revel S16's as surrounds and 4 x ATMOS in ceiling (TBD) and 2 x PSA v1812s.



I need 11 Channels of amplification...



My brother liked his XPA-11 besides having to switch +/- for polarity reasons. But he claims he cant hear the difference between his new HALO Parasounds and his XPA-11.



Choices are:


  1. Emotiva XPA-11
  2. Yamaha MX-a5200 (can get it at same price as XPA-11)
  3. Monolith 11-channel
  4. I can also get a used combo Parasound Halo a31 + Anthem PVA-8 for $3800 (this is a lot more than the other 3) or an used Anthem MCA 325 + PVA-8 for $3500.



Would rather not spend the extra $ on the used combos for $3500+ specially if it the incremental benefit is not there....I can spend those $1500+ elsewhere.



Any suggestions?
Go with the monolith. Made in America by ATI. Best bang for your buck IMHO.

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Thanks! The Monolith is still ~$400 more than the XPA-11. Is it considered a better amp? If so, why?
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Thanks! The Monolith is still ~$400 more than the XPA-11. Is it considered a better amp? If so, why?
Personally I feel that 65 watts per channel is a little underpowered for your surrounds. That is what you get with the XPA 11. Honestly 65 is probably okay for everything but the left and right surrounds. Soundtracks these days do put some very dynamic sound effects into the surround channel. Think gunshots, explosions, glass breaking , punches and kicks environmental sounds that really set the mood for the scene. I would just like a little more power for the increased headroom when warranted. The Monolith provides 100 watts per channel for channels 4-11. I do really love the 300 watts per channel for LCR that the XPA-11 delivers.

It is really a personal preference. I think 200 watts per channel is enough for the LCR that you get from the monolith and you get some extra watts for all you other channels. It also depends on how capable your surround and Atmos speakers are of delivering the full sound bandwidth other than bass. I have some full sized speakers for my surrounds that would be underpowered IMO with 65 watts. I don't think you can go wrong with either choice.

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I don't know whether the power difference for the effects channels (65W for the NAD, 100W for the Monolith) would be significant for most people.

The Monolith weighs 93.2 lbs (42.3 kg). The Emotiva, 53 lbs (24 kg).

If you care about power efficiency, the Emotiva may be superior. I have an XPA3 Gen3 used for LCR with a Denon AVR-X4300H. The XPA runs relatively cool.
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I don't know whether the power difference for the effects channels (65W for the NAD, 100W for the Monolith) would be significant for most people.

The Monolith weighs 93.2 lbs (42.3 kg). The Emotiva, 53 lbs (24 kg).

If you care about power efficiency, the Emotiva may be superior. I have an XPA3 Gen3 used for LCR with a Denon AVR-X4300H. The XPA runs relatively cool.
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Did you have any issues with the Emotiva XLR Pin 2 (hot) configuration with your powered Subs?
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Did you have any issues with the Emotiva XLR Pin 2 (hot) configuration with your powered Subs?
I'm using only RCA cabling. The AVR-X4300H does not have XLR pre-outs.

You could try PMing Ralph Potts, the official BluRay reviewer. His HT setup includes an XPA11 Gen3, if memory serves. Maybe he can provide some advice from experience.

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Just realized Monoprice adds shipping costs, so the different from the XPA-11 is closer to $500....
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Just realized Monoprice adds shipping costs, so the different from the XPA-11 is closer to $500....
Sounds like the XPA-11 is your amp. Just do it.

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Sounds like the XPA-11 is your amp. Just do it.

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I don't mind spending another $500 if the consensus is that the ATI built Monolith is a $500+ better option than the Emotiva amp. I was hoping to get some feefback from other (XLR) users of both amps and from others that could speak of the real world power difference between the LCR and the resto of the channels on both amps. 3 x 200 vs 3 x 300, 8 x 65, 8 x 100.....
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I don't mind spending another $500 if the consensus is that the ATI built Monolith is a $500+ better option than the Emotiva amp. I was hoping to get some feefback from other (XLR) users of both amps and from others that could speak of the real world power difference between the LCR and the resto of the channels on both amps. 3 x 200 vs 3 x 300, 8 x 65, 8 x 100.....
I think the 300 watts per front LCR will be more beneficial and noticeable than the 200 watts. 65 versus 100 for all the other channels will not really be noticeable by anyone other than people using full range speakers as surrounds. Which most people are not.

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I think the 300 watts per front LCR will be more beneficial and noticeable than the 200 watts. 65 versus 100 for all the other channels will not really be noticeable by anyone other than people using full range speakers as surrounds. Which most people are not.

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