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Trying to find the right avr for me, need options

I am running a 5.1 setup currently, eventually want a 5.2, i have tsi 500 fronts, lsim704c center and tsi 200 surrounds, i currently have a yamaha rx-v383, i like to listen to both ht and music, probably a 70/30 split
Would like to achieve theatre reference volume, i like to listen LOUD
at high volumes, especially on movies the audio starts clipping, a 70 watt rating is pretty low for my speaker setup any way..
Im lookin for somethin in the 120 watt range (off course 8 ohm 2 channel driven....08 blah blah) would like a 7.2 setup atleast with assignable channels so i can bi-amp my mains, i got a budget of around 600$, probably not gonna add any more speakers other than a 2nd sub, just want to get quality sound and the most out of my speakers, looking for recommendations, thank you
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im not familiar with your speakers. I assume they are domed tweeter low sensitivity speakers. Easiet way to get a setup to reference 105db at your LP you need high sensitivity speakers. A new receiver wont give you much if any more output. Sound is increased after a doubling of power. So your receiver puts out 30-45 watts real world. Lets say it puts out 65 watts per channel to get 23 db more you need 130 watts of power. So your not going to get much more out of your speakers even with "more power".

If you budget is $600 only thing I could think of is to replace all your speakers with stuff from DIY sound group.Or possibly some used klipsch speakers.

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I am running a 5.1 setup currently, eventually want a 5.2, i have tsi 500 fronts, lsim704c center and tsi 200 surrounds, i currently have a yamaha rx-v383, i like to listen to both ht and music, probably a 70/30 split
Would like to achieve theatre reference volume, i like to listen LOUD
at high volumes, especially on movies the audio starts clipping, a 70 watt rating is pretty low for my speaker setup any way..
Im lookin for somethin in the 120 watt range (off course 8 ohm 2 channel driven....08 blah blah) would like a 7.2 setup atleast with assignable channels so i can bi-amp my mains, i got a budget of around 600$, probably not gonna add any more speakers other than a 2nd sub, just want to get quality sound and the most out of my speakers, looking for recommendations, thank you
I suggest a refurb such as Denon X3500 or Yamaha RX-A870. Both are around 100w/channel and have pre-outs for an external amp which you'll likely need if you constantly crank it up to 11.
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You can get the x3500 new from several authorized dealers in your price range if you just Google it...

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My speakers have 1 inch silk dome tweeter except the center has a ring radiator tweeter, speakers have a sensitivity of 91db....
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They are polk speakers btw lol
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My speakers have 1 inch silk dome tweeter except the center has a ring radiator tweeter, speakers have a sensitivity of 91db....
I didn't need to chime in, but I will anyway. Pase22 and Afrogt are correct, the x3500 and a870 are about as good as it gets for 2018, seven channel receivers with full preouts. All of the newest features, minus maybe hdmi 2.3 and imax enhanced.
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You can get the x3500 new from several authorized dealers in your price range if you just Google it...
it sure is a good deal... i think i need one now that my yammy is acting up.
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If you are near a Costco get the Yamaha 7850. It has pre outs for the L/R channels (only) IF you should need an added amp. I doubt you will.
I have owned most of the RXA series Yamahas and numerous Denon/Marantz AVR's. Currently have a Marantz SR8012.
The 7850 sounds as good as any of those IMO.
Do not get hung up on Audyssey XT32. It has ruined the sound of every AVR I owned. Sony and Onkyo have much better room correction, IMO. I do not use any RC with any brand. I have also had the Anthem MRX720 and did not like ARC.
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would like a 7.2 setup atleast with assignable channels so i can bi-amp my mains,

Have you researched passive bi-amping ? Apparently it is a total waste of time as it does nothing to increase the SPL.
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I read that passive is not nearly as good as active but still improves power and clarity to some degree
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You can go with the Onkyo TX-NR696.

Its a bit over $500 but less than your $600 max. Yeah, it's only 100w but it cranks pretty good.

There's an open box TX-RZ840 that's routinely on their site for a hair less than $700. It's a little over budget but gives everything you are looking for. I ended up picking up that for me and I've been totally impressed. Paid open box price, but it was packaged so good you'll think it's brand new; I sure thought it was.

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I found the Rz-840 for 500, sounds like the best deal, or is denon/yamaha better brand/quality?
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