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post #1 of 19 Old 11-29-2019, 10:18 AM - Thread Starter
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Recommend a reciever that's not Denon.

I'm in need of a new reciever for a 3.2 speaker setup. I have a Onkyo 707 that was my first reciever that I love, but got the urge to "upgrade" several years ago and bought a Denon x4000. That was a huge mistake, its been nothing but junk. Its keeps randomly shutting off with the blinking red light. I've done everything to resolve the issue, all new wires, nothing hooked up at all, factory reset, and it still persists. It's done this since almost new. My fault for not getting it sent back, but moving and other circumstances caused me to put it on back burner and left everything packed up in boxes until recently.

Anyway.... I'm looking to get another reciever from either Onkyo or Yamaha. I want to stay in the $300 range as I dont need the expensive stuff for my simple setup. Current equipment is Panasonic plasma, Polk monitor floor stand and center and dual Hsu vtf-15 but will probably move one of the Hsu to my other setup in my shop. May upgrade to Oled tv in the next year or so.

Refurbs are ok, thanks
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Panasonic DP-UB820 -> Yamaha CX-A5100 -> Sony XBR-75X940C; Mediabridge 6' and 15' HDMI cables.
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Onkyo tn686 or 797

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costco has a yamaha on sale.
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I suggest using accessories4less for research, even if you are unwilling or unable to do business with them.



I set one filter to Dolby Vision, because your future OLED TV would support that. One limitation is that A4L doesn't carry Sony. There is even one new (not refurb) Onkyo (TX-SR494) that is well within your budget.

If you're interested in doing business with A4L, be sure to read their returns policy. (It's not generous.) I've had a Denon AVR-X4300H refurb from them for 30 months, and my luck has been good with it so far. I also bought some Canton Plus GX.3 speakers from them, but they were new, not refurbs.

I've read a lot of claims that Yamaha's mass-market AVRs are the most reliable, but I can't speak to that from personal experience.
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@Spongbob that tsr-7850 from costco leecreek is talking about ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is often recommended
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@Spongbob that tsr-7850 from costco leecreek is talking about ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is often recommended
It's at the lowest price I've ever seen for that model.

It is not listed as a member-only item, so I believe that Costco will sell it to anyone. There may be a 5% surcharge for non-members, but that'd be much less than buying a Costco membership. (I don't know about the surcharge. I have been a Costco member for many years, so I haven't had to do a non-member purchase.)

The TSR-7850 has no exact RX-V or RX-A equivalent, but there are discussions about that elsewhere in this forum. It's not as high-end as the TSR-7810 (= RX-V781) Costco used to offer, but it still looks like a good deal.

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Personally, I wouldn’t trust Onkyo again... I have two Onkyo/integra pieces, DHC9.9 and DHC80.3

Both have been back for service 3x’s each with my 80.3 needing to go back AGAIN however it’s out of their extended for the third time warranty, so it’s a $2,800 paperweight. So frustrating while my 1993 Denon AVR-3000 (back in the Dolby pro logic days) is still working 100% trouble free!

I do not have the funds to replace my unit at this time, however when I do I am considering Marantz or possibly Yamaha, I want another pre-pro.

Last week I stopped by a Best Buy magnolia store, looking for a CD player and a separate amp... they had nothing and he was all to familiar with Onkyo/Integra issues. The sales person stated they offer that brand however he always tries to steer people away due to their issues.
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Isn't Sony and Yamaha the only major ones left? I know Emotiva and other internet directs are out there, but Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, Pioneer, Integra, and Anthem are all under Sound United now.

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Stick with Yamaha, seem to be more reliable and usually competitive feature list.
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Isn't Sony and Yamaha the only major ones left? I know Emotiva and other internet directs are out there, but Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, Pioneer, Integra, and Anthem are all under Sound United now.
The acquisition of Pioneer/Onkyo/Integra fell through. https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/05/sound-united-onkyo/
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IMO the Onkyo TX-NR686, currently selling for comfortably below your $300 budget, is one of the best values out there.
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The acquisition of Pioneer/Onkyo/Integra feel through. https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/05/sound-united-onkyo/
Thank You for the update. I like the idea of competition.

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The new Onkyo receivers are rock solid, run cool, and don't have the issues that plagued the HDMI failure generation. I can understand people being gun shy from all the previous issues, but I would buy Onkyo again without reservation. My TX-RZ1100 is the anchor of my living room system and is stays only probably eight hours or more a day. I have never had an overheating issue or shut down going on close to two years now. In fact, it runs much cooler than the last Marantz I owned (8805).
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Ok guys I've upped my budget slightly and now considering the Onkyo rz830 from acc4less. Is it a worthy upgrade?
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I really like my Rz830 but I've only had it six months so I can't comment on its longevity. It has a nice aluminum face-plate and the volume knob has some mass and excellent feel. It feels quite high end. I had an HDMI board fail on an older Onkyo Pre-Pro (885) but it might have been lightning as the same thing happened to my Anthem a year or so later.

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bought a Denon x4000. That was a huge mistake, its been nothing but junk. Its keeps randomly shutting off with the blinking red light.
I realize your mind is made but I have a Denon flagship receiver that's just shy of 20 years old now. Several years ago it developed the exact same problem you describe, long after the warranty expired. I sent it to an independent repair shop and they quickly solved the issue, an intermittent solder joint on an amplifier circuit board. $150 charge. It's been working great ever since.

I guess the point is everyone's experience with different brands is different and anecdotal.
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It sounds like reliability is an important factor so would suggest Yamaha. I personally have a Sony 1080 which is fantastic, but only if it's room correction agrees with your room and you take some time to tweak settings a bit.

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The new Onkyo receivers are rock solid, run cool, and don't have the issues that plagued the HDMI failure generation. I can understand people being gun shy from all the previous issues, but I would buy Onkyo again without reservation. My TX-RZ1100 is the anchor of my living room system and is stays only probably eight hours or more a day. I have never had an overheating issue or shut down going on close to two years now. In fact, it runs much cooler than the last Marantz I owned (8805).
I hope you're right. But when Onkyo had (or maybe still has) their HDMI issues, every year, people would post about how they finally solved the problem. Their 3 month old unit was rock solid after all. And a few years later they had a bad HDMI board.
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