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Did I buy a good receiver? Is it overkill?

I have a hybrid home theatre and audio setup with the following
  • PSB Image T6 Towers
  • PSB Image C4 Center
  • PSB Imagine XB Bookshelves
  • Harmon Kardon Subwoofer
  • Project Debut Carbon Turntable
  • Just sold: 65" Samsung 1080p LCD
  • Just sold: Harmon Kardon HT-RC160
  • Just ordered: 75" Samsung 4k LCD
  • Just ordered: Denon X3600h receiver

The receiver was definitely expensive, but given it's a home theatre receiver is it still fine for audiophile vinyl listening? How is the phono pre-amp? Is there a better option for me in the price range (or even cheaper) that will give me good sound with home theatre potential?
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I can't answer the phono-pre amp question, but if you are looking to save a few $$ you can probably find a X3500 (last years model) or even a X4400 for less than you paid for the X3600. I don't think there were any major upgrades to the Xx600 series from the Xx500 or Xx400 models from previous years.

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I can't answer the phono-pre amp question, but if you are looking to save a few $$ you can probably find a X3500 (last years model) or even a X4400 for less than you paid for the X3600. I don't think there were any major upgrades to the Xx600 series from the Xx500 or Xx400 models from previous years.


More channels and better heatsinks/layout afaik.
No idea what price paid or if hes somewhere that can get the US 3500 prices. The 3600 is a very good unit and except the 3500(cheaper) you wont find better elsewhere, yamaha and such have similar models though but they are similarly and up priced or lacking some features. The jump down to the lower segment is somewhat high since the 3x00 have better room correction, pre outs, real support for dual subs and i think better powersupply also. Its a very good model so you didnt overbuy, the lower models are lacking, and the higher models cost a bit more mostly just for more powerand channels. Its possible you could have saved some with a 3500 but thats depending on country.


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Sounds like you have a 5.1 setup. Can't speak to phono inputs, but you could have likely bought a receiver for a fraction of what you paid that will sound about the same with a 5.1 setup. You're paying a lot for being able to process 11 channels and 9 internal amplifiers.
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Did I buy a good receiver? Is it overkill?

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Sounds like you have a 5.1 setup. Can't speak to phono inputs, but you could have likely bought a receiver for a fraction of what you paid that will sound about the same with a 5.1 setup. You're paying a lot for being able to process 11 channels and 9 internal amplifiers.


If he uses room correction, the better audyssey version is much better then the lesser versions. His speakers are 89dB/6ohm so not very easy to drive and the bigger combined powersupply will help even more when only using 5.1, the 5.1 AVRs today are a lot for the money but not very good.
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If he uses room correction, the better audyssey version is much better then the lesser versions. His speakers are 89dB/6ohm so not very easy to drive and the bigger combined powersupply will help even more when only using 5.1, the 5.1 AVRs today are a lot for the money but not very good.
I've used a lot of different room correction systems. Including Audyssey XT32. I think the differences between them are overblown. I've never noticed much difference. I think YPAO is better. At least in my setups. As far as power goes, you can't really tell much of a difference in terms of volume unless one amp is substantially stronger than another. You need 10x the power to perceive 2x the volume. Most would be amazed at how little difference there is between 10 watts and 50 watts.
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I have a hybrid home theatre and audio setup with the following
  • PSB Image T6 Towers
  • PSB Image C4 Center
  • PSB Imagine XB Bookshelves
  • Harmon Kardon Subwoofer
  • Project Debut Carbon Turntable
  • Just sold: 65" Samsung 1080p LCD
  • Just sold: Harmon Kardon HT-RC160
  • Just ordered: 75" Samsung 4k LCD
  • Just ordered: Denon X3600h receiver

The receiver was definitely expensive, but given it's a home theatre receiver is it still fine for audiophile vinyl listening? How is the phono pre-amp? Is there a better option for me in the price range (or even cheaper) that will give me good sound with home theatre potential?
The X3600H (as well as last year's X3500H) are the lowest models in their respective year releases that feature the highest version of Audyssey MultEQ XT32 which provides significantly better results than MultEQ and XT used on the lower models.
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I've used a lot of different room correction systems. Including Audyssey XT32. I think the differences between them are overblown. I've never noticed much difference. I think YPAO is better. At least in my setups. As far as power goes, you can't really tell much of a difference in terms of volume unless one amp is substantially stronger than another. You need 10x the power to perceive 2x the volume. Most would be amazed at how little difference there is between 10 watts and 50 watts.


I was a bit unclear, im not comparing xt32 with YPAO or dirac, just older/lesser versions of audyssey. Personally i turn audyssey off but most use it.
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I have a hybrid home theatre and audio setup with the following
  • PSB Image T6 Towers
  • PSB Image C4 Center
  • PSB Imagine XB Bookshelves
  • Harmon Kardon Subwoofer
  • Project Debut Carbon Turntable
  • Just sold: 65" Samsung 1080p LCD
  • Just sold: Harmon Kardon HT-RC160
  • Just ordered: 75" Samsung 4k LCD
  • Just ordered: Denon X3600h receiver

The receiver was definitely expensive, but given it's a home theatre receiver is it still fine for audiophile vinyl listening? How is the phono pre-amp? Is there a better option for me in the price range (or even cheaper) that will give me good sound with home theatre potential?
If you're unhappy with the phono stage, for a modest price you can get a really good external stage like this one:

https://www.schiit.com/products/mani
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If you're unhappy with the phono stage, for a modest price you can get a really good external stage like this one:

https://www.schiit.com/products/mani
I have a project phono pre amp. Do you think the external stage will be better?
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I have a project phono pre amp. Do you think the external stage will be better?
I can't comment as I haven't heard either.
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Depends on the features you want, but the X3400h and newer are good AVRs.
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