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Before I return my AVR-X3600H...

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I currently have an AVR-x3300W in a 5.1 configuration. I just bought the Sony XBR85X900F TV and am looking to upgrade my whole system to take advantage of the 4K video and Atmos audio capabilities of the Netflix (and other apps) on that unit. My current setup is an XBone, NVidia Shield and HD cable box, all fed into the 3300 which feed the TV through the ARC HDMI channel (in case it matters, speakers are Totem in front and back, DT Mythos 3 centre and HSU sub). So here's my question: I recently picked up an AVR-x3600H on sale for BF, and am on the fence as to whether or not to keep it. The used market for my 3300 is not great (I might be able to get half of what I paid for it 2 years ago), and it's only a couple of years old, so it supports virtually all video and audio formats the 3600 does (with a few exceptions). My main reason for getting the 3600 was the eARC support, as I though this would allow Atmos to be passed through the ARC channel to the receiver when playing the Sony Netflix app, but as others have point out (in another forum), ARC should be able to handle that just fine. I do really like the idea of BT headphone connectivity on the 3600, but apart from that, I dont really see the upside. Any thoughts on whether or not to keep it? I am fully confident that next year's BF sale will have an equally good deal on (likely) a better unit, but I did get a very good deal on the 3600.

Sorry for all the reading but I'm just looking for opinions on this. Is the 3600 that much of an upgrade?

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It doesn't sound as though you will regret taking back the x3600 to wait and see what the new year brings. If the new models don't offer anything you cannot live without, you can probably find a reduced x3600.
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I don’t know the details but I believe there were several improvements to componentry made that are in the 3600 vs not in the 3300. Whether you can tell if there is any audio improvements would be up to you as far as testing. If not, then sure, take it back and roll with the 3300.

Found this site which points out the improvements...

https://www.whathifi.com/us/best-buy...ema-amplifiers
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My experience has been that it is best to upgrade to last year's model when the new model comes out. That way I pay half to start with and then can sell it for relatively little loss if I decide to sell it a year or three later.
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Thanks for the responses. As much as it pains me, I think the 3600 has to go back. Tre74 has a good point; if I dont find anything groundbreaking next year, I can likely find the 3600 at at least this price point, or likely cheaper, and by this time next year, all of the new Denon's with HDMI 2.1 support should be out, at which time the present models will likely (hopefully) be a lot cheaper.

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You only need eARC if you wish to pass uncompressed audio through the TV to the AVR (e.g. blu ray player connected to TV, then to AVR).

Since you have a Shield, there is absolutely no need for you to use the TV's built in apps.
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I switched from Denon receivers a couple of years ago and tried out something else that was less expensive. Its been great but I feel I was definitely getting what I paid for with the Denon units and think I'll go back to them when HDMI 2.1 gear has been out for a bit. I'd love to see the new models bring the input channels indicator back to the display panel. You always knew what you were getting without having to push any buttons.
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You only need eARC if you wish to pass uncompressed audio through the TV to the AVR (e.g. blu ray player connected to TV, then to AVR).

Since you have a Shield, there is absolutely no need for you to use the TV's built in apps.
For the most part, I agree (especially Plex, whew) but the TV's built-in Netflix app supports Vision, whereas the Shield one does not (and likely never will), so for that one purpose, I was looking at eARC.
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I bought my x4400h when the 4500 was just coming out, so pricing was dropping on the 4400 as everyone was anticipating the 4500. However, once the 4500 was released and everyone realized it really wasn't much different than the 4400, the price on the 4400 came back up. I see the 4400 going for 300-400 more now than when I bought it, so timing is really key I think.
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I switched from Denon receivers a couple of years ago and tried out something else that was less expensive. Its been great but I feel I was definitely getting what I paid for with the Denon units and think I'll go back to them when HDMI 2.1 gear has been out for a bit. I'd love to see the new models bring the input channels indicator back to the display panel. You always knew what you were getting without having to push any buttons.
I went the other way; from an Arcam 350 to the Denon, and the minute I started it up, I could tell the sound quality on the Denon wasn't as good. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Denon, and I'll likely get another one when I upgrade, but I loved that Arcam.
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For the most part, I agree (especially Plex, whew) but the TV's built-in Netflix app supports Vision, whereas the Shield one does not (and likely never will), so for that one purpose, I was looking at eARC.
Ooops, I didn't think about DV.
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