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Emotiva XPA-3 vs. Monolith 3 vs. 3 x Outlaw M2200

Emotiva XPA-3 = $1200 shipped.
Monolith 3 = $1190 shipped.
Outlaw M2200 x 3 = $800 shipped.

Is it a no-brainer to go with the Outlaw mono-blocks?
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outlaws if you have the plugs for them or the monolith if you want a nice all in one. Emotiva can go bend some spaghetti...

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As a satisfied Emotiva XPA3 Gen3 owner, the M2200s look like a good deal. I wonder how long Outlaw is going to offer that 3 for $800 special?

I wonder about mounting/cooling 3 monoblocks. Maybe you can just stack them, but I don't know.

One nice feature (that I don't use) on the Emotiva is that it can use 240V mains power. That makes the wiring a bit less of an issue if you're asking it to produce max power. (Three M2200s would draw 5A each at 120V.) I have the Emotiva, a Denon AVR-X4300H, and a Hsu VTF-3 Mk5 sub (plus some lesser power draws) connected to a single 120V, 20A service. I haven't popped the breaker yet. (Or my eardrums.)
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Emotiva XPA-3 = $1200 shipped.
Monolith 3 = $1190 shipped.
Outlaw M2200 x 3 = $800 shipped.

Is it a no-brainer to go with the Outlaw mono-blocks?
I actually have 3 2200's powering my Polk RTiA9's and CSiA6
I bought the first two about 8 months ago, then finally bought the third a couple months back. Was bummed I didn't bite the bullet with all three at once. This deal is pretty killer. I think I paid $279.99 for the first two and $299.99 for the third. The $799.99 is KILLER. Especially when you factor in them being mono blocks. I always liked the idea of being able to have all of my channels separate like that if I could.
They have been reviews and tested pretty well and I've enjoyed them, especially since I tend to blast movies pretty loud.
But yes you would need 3 separate plugs instead of 1, so that could be annoying. I have all three of mine stacked in my server rack. They put off damn near no heat. From what my power conditioner has shown, on the heavy loud sections its drawing close to 2.4 amps, thats with my Onkyo and Oppo plugged in as well
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I ran 3 dedicated 120v 20amp circuits to my equipment closet. Closet is cooled by an in-line AC Infinity T6. Right now it just has those wire racks but I may eventually put a server rack in there. Not a top priority now since you don't ever see the equipment. I setup a panel of 4 switched 2x outlets (8 plugs total) in the closet. I'm also ordering an SVS package with 2 PB16 ultras and wanted to make sure I had enough circuits to handle it all.

At any rate I just pulled the trigger. Not sure how I lucked out on this deal or if it's been that price for 3 for a while and no one realized. Seemed like an awesome deal so I didn't want to miss out.
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I ran 3 dedicated 120v 20amp circuits to my equipment closet. Closet is cooled by an in-line AC Infinity T6. Right now it just has those wire racks but I may eventually put a server rack in there. Not a top priority now since you don't ever see the equipment. I setup a panel of 4 switched 2x outlets (8 plugs total) in the closet. I'm also ordering an SVS package with 2 PB16 ultras and wanted to make sure I had enough circuits to handle it all.

At any rate I just pulled the trigger. Not sure how I lucked out on this deal or if it's been that price for 3 for a while and no one realized. Seemed like an awesome deal so I didn't want to miss out.
With all that wiring, it's wonder that you even asked. The M2200s are the obvious choice.
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outlaws if you have the plugs for them or the monolith if you want a nice all in one. Emotiva can go bend some spaghetti...
All three make great amps. Anyone that has a axe to grind for whatever reason I
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failed xpa-2, failed xpa-5, failed upa-2 and failed emotiv 6... I used to LOVE Emotiva, after dealing with their warranty 4 times in 2 years and over 600$ in shipping charges to return their products (in Canada) ya, I'd say I'm not a huge fan of theirs.

Oh but I see you have a xpa-7, so since yours works fine, anyone that has had issues has an axe to grind right? lol
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failed xpa-2, failed xpa-5, failed upa-2 and failed emotiv 6... I used to LOVE Emotiva, after dealing with their warranty 4 times in 2 years and over 600$ in shipping charges to return their products (in Canada) ya, I'd say I'm not a huge fan of theirs.

Oh but I see you have a xpa-7, so since yours works fine, anyone that has had issues has an axe to grind right? lol
At least, no one can accuse you of being impatient. I would have given up on them after failure number two.

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failed xpa-2, failed xpa-5, failed upa-2 and failed emotiv 6... I used to LOVE Emotiva, after dealing with their warranty 4 times in 2 years and over 600$ in shipping charges to return their products (in Canada) ya, I'd say I'm not a huge fan of theirs.

Oh but I see you have a xpa-7, so since yours works fine, anyone that has had issues has an axe to grind right? lol
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As a satisfied Emotiva XPA3 Gen3 owner, the M2200s look like a good deal. I wonder how long Outlaw is going to offer that 3 for $800 special?

I wonder about mounting/cooling 3 monoblocks. Maybe you can just stack them, but I don't know.

One nice feature (that I don't use) on the Emotiva is that it can use 240V mains power. That makes the wiring a bit less of an issue if you're asking it to produce max power. (Three M2200s would draw 5A each at 120V.) I have the Emotiva, a Denon AVR-X4300H, and a Hsu VTF-3 Mk5 sub (plus some lesser power draws) connected to a single 120V, 20A service. I haven't popped the breaker yet. (Or my eardrums.)
I can confirm that you can stack 3 of them no problem. They are cool to the touch. I use my 2200's to drive my LCR channels.
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Sony,Denon,SVS are all brands I have sent in for Warranty repair. Getting on a forum and telling them all go pound sand is not gonna do anything for me
Thats the entire point of a forum.... positive and negative experience with products/companys, when others ask questions about them .... thats the whole point of AVS discussions.... But my god, just go on the Emotiva threads and read the horror story's, like really man.

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At any rate I just pulled the trigger. Not sure how I lucked out on this deal or if it's been that price for 3 for a while and no one realized. Seemed like an awesome deal so I didn't want to miss out.
They started it around black friday. At the time they had single 2200's for $299. But they decided to keep the 3 for $799 during christmas. Then I noticed on their website that they still had it going. Either way total win for you
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I've been running a stack of 2200s in my rack for a year now with zero issues. They are always cool to the touch, no fuss, and sound great!

I'd skip the PB16s though, much better subs in that price range from PSA, JTR, and Rythmik. SVS has the worst return on investment at this point.

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I just ordered 3x 2200s special. Whoo Hoo!

Kothoga & thepiecesfit: What cable are you using to connect the 2200s into the AVR?

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The 2200s has a plug for balance input. Is that used for like guitars or turntables or home audio as well? To hookup the 2200s into my AVR preouts, I'm wondering if these are the cables I should get?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001VLW398..._G3YmEbN3N8F1Y

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Emotiva XPA-3 = $1200 shipped.
Monolith 3 = $1190 shipped.
Outlaw M2200 x 3 = $800 shipped.

Is it a no-brainer to go with the Outlaw mono-blocks?
I'm thinking of getting an amp to use in my basement. I'm definitely not going to buy 3 mono-blocks. So it would be between the Emotiva and Monolith. I hear the Emotiva is better. but can't really afford either one right now. Do Emotivas ever go on sale?

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The 2200s has a plug for balance input. Is that used for like guitars or turntables or home audio as well? To hookup the 2200s into my AVR preouts, I'm wondering if these are the cables I should get?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001VLW398..._G3YmEbN3N8F1Y
I'm not sure that there is any advantage to using an RCA to XLR adapter cable.

I'm using RCA cables to connect my X4300H to an Emotiva XPA3 Gen3 (which also has XLR inputs). The cables are 6 feet (1.8m) long, of the cheap coaxial type. (https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=660) I hear no noise pickup.

If you were using long cables to connect the AVR to the amps, there might be some advantage, but you might also need to buy an active unbalanced to balanced converter to benefit. Example that I have heard mentioned frequently: https://www.amazon.com/ART-CLEANBoxP...0419628&sr=8-4

Don't waste money on anything like that for a 6 foot run. There are more elegant cables than the ones I'm using, but even the cheapest coax has excellent shielding. (Monoprice isn't know for superb quality control, but my luck with their cables has been good.)
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I've been running a stack of 2200s in my rack for a year now with zero issues. They are always cool to the touch, no fuss, and sound great!

I'd skip the PB16s though, much better subs in that price range from PSA, JTR, and Rythmik. SVS has the worst return on investment at this point.
Can you recommend a pair of subs that will eclipse or equal the PB16 units? Any recommendation on LCR and rear surrounds? Are those DIY Sound Group speakers any good? I have a full wood shop and finishing area and guns just not sure if I feel like dealing with that right now. Could be fun to DIY though. On the fence.
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Can you recommend a pair of subs that will eclipse or equal the PB16 units? Any recommendation on LCR and rear surrounds? Are those DIY Sound Group speakers any good? I have a full wood shop and finishing area and guns just not sure if I feel like dealing with that right now. Could be fun to DIY though. On the fence.
Anything in their price range from PSA, JTR, or Rythmik will easily crush them. A single PSA V3612s would eclipse three or so PB16s: https://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/V3612 Dual Italian made 18" B&C Pro level woofers vs a single Chinese made 15" woofer, do the math.

I'm a Klipsch guy, see my sig, so that's the way I went at the time. That said, I'm now thinking about swapping my LCR with the DIYSG 1299s.

FULL wood shop and you have to ask??!!! If you want a monster of a subwoofer that has four times the output of a PB16 for under $2k, head over to the DIY forum and fall into the rabbit hole. The current hotness over there is the Devastator ported horn 21" subwoofer and any of the DIYSG speakers.

@a77cj7 build threads are always really worth a read: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...-hst18a-s.html or https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...nt-panels.html

@tarponater has a great DIYSG 1099 build: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...099-build.html

If you want to go even bigger, there's always the DIYSG Titans; @eng-399 built these: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...uned-25hz.html

@blister64 has a great thread on a trio of 24" subwoofers: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...iii-build.html
Or you can watch his build videos on them and the DIYSG 1299s:

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I'm not sure that there is any advantage to using an RCA to XLR adapter cable.

I'm using RCA cables to connect my X4300H to an Emotiva XPA3 Gen3 (which also has XLR inputs). The cables are 6 feet (1.8m) long, of the cheap coaxial type. (https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=660) I hear no noise pickup.

If you were using long cables to connect the AVR to the amps, there might be some advantage, but you might also need to buy an active unbalanced to balanced converter to benefit. Example that I have heard mentioned frequently: https://www.amazon.com/ART-CLEANBoxP...0419628&sr=8-4

Don't waste money on anything like that for a 6 foot run. There are more elegant cables than the ones I'm using, but even the cheapest coax has excellent shielding. (Monoprice isn't know for superb quality control, but my luck with their cables has been good.)
Going from RCA to XLR on my Parasound system is documented as being worth 6dBs. I run these for each channel plus to the sub amp: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Can you recommend a pair of subs that will eclipse or equal the PB16 units? Any recommendation on LCR and rear surrounds? Are those DIY Sound Group speakers any good? I have a full wood shop and finishing area and guns just not sure if I feel like dealing with that right now. Could be fun to DIY though. On the fence.
Anything in their price range from PSA, JTR, or Rythmik will easily crush them. A single PSA V3612s would eclipse three or so PB16s: https://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/V3612 Dual Italian made 18" B&C Pro level woofers vs a single Chinese made 15" woofer, do the math.

I'm a Klipsch guy, see my sig, so that's the way I went at the time. That said, I'm now thinking about swapping my LCR with the DIYSG 1299s.

FULL wood shop and you have to ask??!!! If you want a monster of a subwoofer that has four times the output of a PB16 for under $2k, head over to the DIY forum and fall into the rabbit hole. The current hotness over there is the Devastator ported horn 21" subwoofer and any of the DIYSG speakers.

@a77cj7 build threads are always really worth a read: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...-hst18a-s.html or https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...nt-panels.html

@tarponater has a great DIYSG 1099 build: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...099-build.html

If you want to go even bigger, there's always the DIYSG Titans; @eng-399 built these: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...uned-25hz.html

@blister64 has a great thread on a trio of 24" subwoofers: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...iii-build.html
Or you can watch his build videos on them and the DIYSG 1299s:

Enjoy. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif[/IMG]
Intriguing!

I was thinking for my space of a 15 x 20 room where the main position is 11 or 12 feet away of looking into DIYSG 1099 LCR powered by the Outlaw monoblocks and 2 Kudas powered by a Behringer NU6000. Good or go bigger?
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@Kothoga I see in your signature you have some LaScala. Nice. Recently I restored some KLF30s and joined the Klipsch Owners FB page to help sell them. That's the first time I saw a pair of LaScala and absolutely love the way they look! A friend of mine deals with vintage audio equipment and is looking for a pair for me. In the mean time, I decided to build a bookshelf version of them. They will be around 13"W 14" D 20" tall. Do you have any idea how the LaScala would compare to the 30s?

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Intriguing!

I was thinking for my space of a 15 x 20 room where the main position is 11 or 12 feet away of looking into DIYSG 1099 LCR powered by the Outlaw monoblocks and 2 Kudas powered by a Behringer NU6000. Good or go bigger?
I can vouch for the 1099s. They are amazing speakers that can p-lay as loud as you can handle and crystal clear. I've heard most of the DIYSG home theater line and so far everything has lived up to the hype.

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Going from RCA to XLR on my Parasound system is documented as being worth 6dBs. I run these for each channel plus to the sub amp: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But from an AVR that only has an unbalanced RCA output? The cables in your link are XLR to XLR.

I have never used XLR. If the voltages on each balanced line was equal to the unbalanced RCA, that'd be net double (6dB).

If your AVR or pre-pro has XLR outputs, they'd be the ones to use.
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The 2200s has a plug for balance input. Is that used for like guitars or turntables or home audio as well? To hookup the 2200s into my AVR preouts, I'm wondering if these are the cables I should get?

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Here is a link to Bill Whitlock's view of unbalanced to balanced connections. 2.1 is the interesting figure. The remainder of the piece may be more than you wanted to know. Note that the shield is attached to the shield at the RCA end and to pin 1, ground, at the receiving, XLR end. A low output (say 50 to 100 ohms) impedance from the RCA source is stated as important. Note that low output impendences from RCA outputs are not common on consumer level AVR's or even AVP's.

The RCA output impedance of the AVR-X4300H (your AVR according to your equipment list) is over 1,000 ohms, which is too high to make a good match with an XLR input. Your best choice is to use RCA’s on each end of the connection unless you encounter hum problems. This advice applies to most AVR’s unless the RCA output impedance is verified to be low. I use only XLR's so I don't give this advice lightly.

Whitlock is often considered the master of all things balanced.

https://www.jhbrandt.net/wp-content/...-Equipment.pdf


If you do want to try RCA output to XLR input connections, and at low cost, this Monoprice cable appears to be an example of an RCA to XLR cable that is configured according to Figure 2.1 noted above.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=4777
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I just ordered 3x 2200s special. Whoo Hoo!

Kothoga & thepiecesfit: What cable are you using to connect the 2200s into the AVR?
Missed this the other day. My 2200s are connected to the RZ1100 by way of RCAs. Kind of wish I had gone all in at the time and bought the RZ5100 along with the required amps.

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But from an AVR that only has an unbalanced RCA output? The cables in your link are XLR to XLR.

I have never used XLR. If the voltages on each balanced line was equal to the unbalanced RCA, that'd be net double (6dB).

If your AVR or pre-pro has XLR outputs, they'd be the ones to use.
My post wasn't well phrased, sorry. I use the 2200s in the HT, connected to the RZ1100 by RCAs. My 2 channel system has the Parasound P6 connected to the Parasound A23+ and NX6000D with the above linked XLRs.

Direct from the P6 manual:
"The Balanced XLR Left and Right Outputs have the same signal as the Left and Right RCA Output jacks. Balanced outputs have 6dB higher gain."

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@Kothoga I see in your signature you have some LaScala. Nice. Recently I restored some KLF30s and joined the Klipsch Owners FB page to help sell them. That's the first time I saw a pair of LaScala and absolutely love the way they look! A friend of mine deals with vintage audio equipment and is looking for a pair for me. In the mean time, I decided to build a bookshelf version of them. They will be around 13"W 14" D 20" tall. Do you have any idea how the LaScala would compare to the 30s?
Is that the owners group run by Cory? I got these from him, they are a 1 of 1 Cherry set. I'd LOVE to see your bookshelf build! As for a comparison, I've never heard the KLF30s but I know for a fact that the Scala's mids and highs would blow them away, the low end is pretty lacking though. It was designed as a PA speaker after all and they would be stacked for large venues. I tried them for the HT and ended up preferring the RF7IIs:




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Intriguing!

I was thinking for my space of a 15 x 20 room where the main position is 11 or 12 feet away of looking into DIYSG 1099 LCR powered by the Outlaw monoblocks and 2 Kudas powered by a Behringer NU6000. Good or go bigger?

Bigger is never a question, it's the answer!! lol you'll be able to drive anyone out of the room with those 1099s. I love my 1299s and have heard a set of the 1099s as well. Both have crazy output and great dynamics. The 1099s were a bit bright for some things, but that was just my opinion. Nothing that couldn't be EQ'd or taken care of with the crossover and extra capacitor(?) they send with it. With a full wood shop, you shouldn't be looking at doing anything but DIY for your subs. I've reviewed the PC-4000 from SVS. They make some good looking stuff and output is pretty impressive, but for the price, you can do much better if you went DIY. Anymore the minimum driver size I would consider is an 18 inch woofer (or 2) unless you start going with several of the JBL 12s that people are getting for $30 each. Behringer seems to be the go to amp for some decent output at a good price. If you end up needing some serious power, look at some clone amps for Sinbosen for a good value.

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Intriguing!

I was thinking for my space of a 15 x 20 room where the main position is 11 or 12 feet away of looking into DIYSG 1099 LCR powered by the Outlaw monoblocks and 2 Kudas powered by a Behringer NU6000. Good or go bigger?

Bigger is never a question, it's the answer!! [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG] lol you'll be able to drive anyone out of the room with those 1099s. I love my 1299s and have heard a set of the 1099s as well. Both have crazy output and great dynamics. The 1099s were a bit bright for some things, but that was just my opinion. Nothing that couldn't be EQ'd or taken care of with the crossover and extra capacitor(?) they send with it. With a full wood shop, you shouldn't be looking at doing anything but DIY for your subs. I've reviewed the PC-4000 from SVS. They make some good looking stuff and output is pretty impressive, but for the price, you can do much better if you went DIY. Anymore the minimum driver size I would consider is an 18 inch woofer (or 2) unless you start going with several of the JBL 12s that people are getting for $30 each. Behringer seems to be the go to amp for some decent output at a good price. If you end up needing some serious power, look at some clone amps for Sinbosen for a good value.
Still contemplating DIY but may instead buy a couple of PSA TV3612s or a couple of Rythmik FV25s and some JBL A190s or a PSA 210 speaker system. Decisions decisions.
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