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post #1 of 9 Old 02-14-2020, 11:35 PM - Thread Starter
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is it me or....

they building avrs with more bells and whistles, and building them cheaper than crap now?
looking to replace my $ 500 2 year old avr that has 130 watts per channel, all the pre outs you ever need, built like a tank, and nothing in that price range even comes close now.
the new denons , yamahas, blah blah, look like cheap toy **** on the back, with 2 crap little pre outs for 6 and 7 hundred bucks?
does anybody not care about pre outs any more?
this is the back of a 600 plus reciever now?
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People who buy low end AVRs don't care about pre outs. Even mid range units. So instead of spending money on features no one uses at those price points, spend it on features they do use. Especially since the amount of stuff that needs licensing has gone up so a bigger part of the price goes to paying for stuff like Dolby Atmos and dtsX.

Your $500 unit sounds more like a heavily discounted higher end unit, or is much older than 2 years. Maybe it's 2 years to you but really a much older unit. Even midrange hasn't had preouts in years, so it's either your unit was a refurbished unit, an old model on close out, or used you got a good deal on.
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What's the model of your current receiver?
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MSRP was $1400, but is now $400 on Amazon. It's a 2017 model, but that's quite a price drop.
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MSRP was $1400, but is now $400 on Amazon. It's a 2017 model, but that's quite a price drop.
yes it is, hard to compete with that machine for that price
130 watts per ch
full atmos, 4k dolby vision , etc
if they have the hdmi boards straight now its a deal
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The Yamaha A780 at $649 MSRP has limited pre-outs, The Yamaha A880 has full pre-outs and can be had for less than current MSRP ($899).

I think the issue is you seem to be trying to compare a severely discounted model to current models at MSRP...not really accurate.
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The Yamaha A780 at $649 MSRP has limited pre-outs, The Yamaha A880 has full pre-outs and can be had for less than current MSRP ($899).

I think the issue is you seem to be trying to compare a severely discounted model to current models at MSRP...not really accurate.
it was 549 when i bought it almost 2 years ago.
but yes, i see what your saying
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So now you need to go find a steeply discounted $1500ish model to scratch your itch, or answer your question. Comparing a $1400 AVR to $500 MSRP models is like eating peanut butter with a straw: you're bound to be disappointed.

Personally, I'd look at comparably priced ($1000+) Denons, they're highly regarded.
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