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How can you make this statement.?
You have no information on his system in regards to seating distance from speakers, accustic and so on...
In today's AV rooms a solid 200-300 is a minimum.
LOL I didn't even want to get into specs - I just cared about sound/dynamics and would I be losing anything?

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Nice - I almost decided to go class d, but havent heard one. Well, I have 2 channel D-SOnic coming to try w/ my LR. There are so many good CLass D amps out there, they seem pretty amazing. I'm gonna look yours up too!

Nice! Which one (power) did you get? Let us know what you think! Wait to hear your 2-channel before you make a final decision. I've got the 7/400, no complaints.

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Nice! Which one (power) did you get? Let us know what you think! Wait to hear your 2-channel before you make a final decision. I've got the 7/400, no complaints.
I grabbed the 800s. I belive its 700 or 800 into 4ohms. Got a great deal and I"m sure I'll love it. I just like the idea of one box, so I'll possibly sell it in May or June. I got a good enough deal on it
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Nice - I almost decided to go class d, but havent heard one. Well, I have 2 channel D-SOnic coming to try w/ my LR. There are so many good CLass D amps out there, they seem pretty amazing. I'm gonna look yours up too!


Look this over

https://legacyaudio.com/backstage/perspective/
Specifically...( Amplifiers for the Future of High Performance Audio)

And then this ....



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yeah, that thing looks pretty amazing. however, its a ton of cash that i don't wanna spend, having just bought 7 JTR speakers! haha

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But dear god what a beauty!! I bet it sounds amazing too. However, since you owned a 6xxx amp - I should do pretty great w/ it yeah?

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But dear god what a beauty!! I bet it sounds amazing too. However, since you owned a 6xxx amp - I should do pretty great w/ it yeah?
Yes, your on the right track. You can't add too much power. Its all in what your budget will afford. Its nice to have, if you ever do indeed want to use it.

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How can you make this statement.?
You have no information on his system in regards to seating distance from speakers, accustic and so on...
In today's AV rooms a solid 200-300 is a minimum.
What a joke, I used simple mathematics. I will even include links for you.


1. The OP had JTR 212RTs: http://jtrspeakers.com/noesis-212rt.html Notice the sensitivity measurement "Sensitivity* 98db, 2.0 volts, free air (107db, 2.83v, halfspace)"


2. I used an SPL Calculator: https://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html and inputted the appropriate information. I admit, I DID make an assumption that the distance to speakers was 12'. At 15W input, near to wall, they will theoretically output 104.5dB SPL.


200-300W minimum in today's Home Theatre rooms? I guess you work for an amplifier company.
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LOL I didn't even want to get into specs - I just cared about sound/dynamics and would I be losing anything?
I completely understand... it was just something that needed to be said.

One thing that you might notice right from the get go with the ATI over your Krell is the 27.1db gain on the input side.
Your Krell has 26db gain

This will give you a bit more volume with less twist of the volume knob.

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What a joke, I used simple mathematics. I will even include links for you.


1. The OP had JTR 212RTs: http://jtrspeakers.com/noesis-212rt.html Notice the sensitivity measurement "Sensitivity* 98db, 2.0 volts, free air (107db, 2.83v, halfspace)"


2. I used an SPL Calculator: https://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html and inputted the appropriate information. I admit, I DID make an assumption that the distance to speakers was 12'. At 15W input, near to wall, they will theoretically output 104.5dB SPL.


200-300W minimum in today's Home Theatre rooms? I guess you work for an amplifier company.
Dude, you have a good heart, but your out in left field. Power can be FELT, and heard, with every dynamic burst, or kick drum. The more, the better. I have had amps from 70 amps to now 1000 per channel. Let me tell you, having power is addictive. And if you get used to it and its gone, you have a boring set up. No you don't absolutely have to have it, but if you think you can't tell if its there, your sadly mistaken. I don't care WHAT your measurements tell you. That being said, if your in an apartment and listening at old man levels, LOL, then I concur with you .
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I have an At6003,At6006 and a At4006. I love these amps. They are dead silent and sound amazing. My previous amps were emotiva xpa 5 and Parasound Halo A21 and A31. If you can get the At6007 for a great price, grab it and don't look back. On a side note I will have the same base speakers as you and plan on adding the Jtr 110sl for heights down the road
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What a joke, I used simple mathematics. I will even include links for you.


1. The OP had JTR 212RTs: http://jtrspeakers.com/noesis-212rt.html Notice the sensitivity measurement "Sensitivity* 98db, 2.0 volts, free air (107db, 2.83v, halfspace)"


2. I used an SPL Calculator: https://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html and inputted the appropriate information. I admit, I DID make an assumption that the distance to speakers was 12'. At 15W input, near to wall, they will theoretically output 104.5dB SPL.


200-300W minimum in today's Home Theatre rooms? I guess you work for an amplifier company.
No..I dont work for an amplifier manufacturer.

So are the measurements you are referencing too taken from one frequency or from across the entire bandwidth?
Dont forget that input loads, peaks and drops can greatly stress power supplies. Ohm loads across the frequency range needs to be taken into consideration when looking at numbers.
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I completely understand... it was just something that needed to be said.

One thing that you might notice right from the get go with the ATI over your Krell is the 27.1db gain on the input side.
Your Krell has 26db gain

This will give you a bit more volume with less twist of the volume knob.
Yea, I did notice that. Faster slew rate as well, which isn't used as much in amp specs these days. And prob a nominal difference anyways. I'm gonna demo the 2 channel d sonic I have coming. If I love it, maybe I'll go w/ one of their 7 channels - they haev CRAZY wattage, which I likely will nver come close to needing LOL
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I have an At6003,At6006 and a At4006. I love these amps. They are dead silent and sound amazing. My previous amps were emotiva xpa 5 and Parasound Halo A21 and A31. If you can get the At6007 for a great price, grab it and don't look back. On a side note I will have the same base speakers as you and plan on adding the Jtr 110sl for heights down the road
I have them as rears, and adding a pair to sides - they're incredible. As rears, they bested everything I've had by far - I had Martin Logan towers back there....not even a fair fight

And thanks for your input - the susper poweful class D are appealing, but it seems the ATI is safe way to go?
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Yeah... I've been hearing very good things about Dsonic amplifiers.

Will you be able to system the ATI two separate dedicated 20amp circuits?

I moved to 220 for my Moons...hell-of-a difference that made...!

Moved the subs to 220 as well.

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I have some Emotive amplifiers around here that have 32 gain... talk about jumping up fast...lol
I think it just makes them run out of gas to fast... especially with high gain speakers.
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No..I dont work for an amplifier manufacturer.

So are the measurements you are referencing too taken from one frequency or form across the entire bandwidth?
Dont forget that input loads, peaks and drops can greatly stress power supplies. Ohm loads across the frequency range needs to be taken into consideration when looking at numbers.
I guess you didn't look at the second link I sent you. That's why I said a THEORETICAL SPL of 104.5dB at a 12' MLP with 15W.
Look, I get it, more is MOAR. While I would anticipate no issues driving JTR speakers well above Reference at my MLP with my 140W/c MRX 720, I can fully understand why people will want high-current, high-power amplifiers. I am just saying that they are not necessarily NEEDED unless the OP is using strictly a Pre/Pro (which he is, I just looked closer).


Anyhow, my initial pose on here was to make a little joke about how much power we actually need to fuel our hobby. I fully understand the idea of having a single 7-channel amp in order to take up less rack space. IF I ever go that route, it will be with Anthem gear.


Good luck with your purchase, Ethos. Soon, you will be getting another 6-channel amp for 6 Atmos channels. Who knows, by the time you get your new house, there will be speaker channels coming up from the floor... lol
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I guess you didn't look at the second link I sent you. That's why I said a THEORETICAL SPL of 104.5dB at a 12' MLP with 15W.
Look, I get it, more is MOAR. While I would anticipate no issues driving JTR speakers well above Reference at my MLP with my 140W/c MRX 720, I can fully understand why people will want high-current, high-power amplifiers. I am just saying that they are not necessarily NEEDED unless the OP is using strictly a Pre/Pro (which he is, I just looked closer).


Anyhow, my initial pose on here was to make a little joke about how much power we actually need to fuel our hobby. I fully understand the idea of having a single 7-channel amp in order to take up less rack space. IF I ever go that route, it will be with Anthem gear.


Good luck with your purchase, Ethos. Soon, you will be getting another 6-channel amp for 6 Atmos channels. Who knows, by the time you get your new house, there will be speaker channels coming up from the floor... lol
LOL no worries, I like everyones input. I feel like I should grab it because its not a step back from what I haev, plus the added channels. And who knows, ill eventually need atmos channels as well, and whatever else they decide to come up w

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And thanks for your input - the susper poweful class D are appealing, but it seems the ATI is safe way to go?

Of course, ATI also makes D class amplifiers...
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FWIW: Dolby Labs chose ATI 6000 series amplifiers for the critical listening areas in their San Francisco headquarters.



The ATI 4000 series is the same topology and technology just a little less power per channel.


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FWIW: Dolby Labs chose ATI 6000 series amplifiers for the critical listening areas in their San Francisco headquarters.



The ATI 4000 series is the same topology and technology just a little less power per channel.


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Thanks for the note - thats encouraging. I'm sure they're incredible amps. I just dont want to take a step back, since I do love the Krell. However, ideally, the amp gets out of the way of the music/movies, and won't change the sound too much. I am interested in the increase in wattage and lowered noise floor - the latter of which might make a difference .

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I own the ATI Signature 6005 and a Krell Duo 300 XD. I love the ATI amp and likely will keep it for life. I don't have any experience with the Chorus line but can tell you the Krell Duo 300 XD is a clear level above my ATI amp.

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I own the ATI Signature 6005 and a Krell Duo 300 XD. I love the ATI amp and likely will keep it for life. I don't have any experience with the Chorus line but can tell you the Krell Duo 300 XD is a clear level above my ATI amp.
I was consdiering adding a duo- but they're so damn pricey. The idea w/ the ATI is to have it all in one box...the chorus line is decent, 360rms into 4 ohms. Which is enough for my JTRs. But I've just been considering other amps since I'm short the 2 channels.

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Final amp decision: Cherry v. ATI

OK - so, I've narrowed it down. I need 7 channels, so selling the Krell (hopefully). I was thinking about getting the ATI 6007 for my 7.1 JTR setup. I had originally purchased a Cherry amp but had to cancel due to covid. A very knowledgeable AVS'er told me to again consider a 3 channel and 4 channel from Cherry. Use the 3 channel to run L/C/Right rear, and the other 4 on the the 4 cherry. This way, in 2 channel, the amps act as mono blocks. Unique idea. And I know Jeff uses Cherry for his amps.

The pricing would be about equal, which do I do? One big ATI (all in one box, but super heavy, prob more power than I need) or 2 cherry amps? I've been away from my system for 2 months, can't wait to get back haha. I will also have my second set of JTRs for sides in early June, so hoping to make an amp decision in the next 2 weeks. Thanks in advance.

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I use ATI amps so am a fan. As you've alluded to, the big drawback of the 6007 is that its so unwieldy to move. Though - unless you're a frequent swapper - that should only be a one time problem.

I know you said you dont want to consider other options, but have you thought about the 4007? Especially if you're using subs, should give you all the power you need for the efficient JTR's.
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I use ATI amps so am a fan. As you've alluded to, the big drawback of the 6007 is that its so unwieldy to move. Though - unless you're a frequent swapper - that should only be a one time problem.

I know you said you dont want to consider other options, but have you thought about the 4007? Especially if you're using subs, should give you all the power you need for the efficient JTR's.
Yeah, I guess the 4007 does make sense as well. Its less power than the Krell, but again, probably not a big deal. Still an all in box solution. I know that cherry are rally good at music, but since im 90-95% HT I was torn on which!

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I was consdiering adding a duo- but they're so damn pricey. The idea w/ the ATI is to have it all in one box...the chorus line is decent, 360rms into 4 ohms. Which is enough for my JTRs. But I've just been considering other amps since I'm short the 2 channels.
Krell is much more expensive than ATI. The ATI is the better bargain and a great amp. I was very happy with the ATI amp until I bought the Krell. I had the Duo 300 non-XD first and it was better than my ATI 6005. Then I bought the Duo 300 XD and it is just another level from my ATI amplifier. The highs are vivid and detailed without being harsh. I can't say I've heard better dynamics. I've had a bunch of 8-10k stereo amps at home over the last 20 years from most of the well known brands. The Duo 300 XD is easily the best stereo amp, I've owned. The Non-XD stuff, is OK, an ordinary high-end amp. The XD stuff is a bargain. If you don't have the XD version of your amp, I'm pretty certain that's going to be a bigger sonic upgrade than adding the two extra channels.

I spoke with tech support at Krell and asked if the Chorus 7200, 7 channel over heated. The joys of Class A, come with the consequence of heat even with the ibias stuff. I didn't get a direct answer. The answer I was given was that the Chorus 7200XD also ran cooler and there were improvements since the original Chorus.

About 20 years ago, when I first started posting on this forum, I wanted POWER! I ran a California Audio Labs MCA that produces 500 watts into 8 ohm into 5 channels, 750 watts if you use the 1% distortion guide. It was a huge Class A/B amplifier with a digital switching power supply which allowed it to produce that much power. That amp still produced excellent sound quality so I felt like I "had my cake and ate it too." I fell like I'm doing that even more so with the Krell. I think Krells XD stuff are the best amps I've heard around their price point, well double their price point.

I was looking for an amplifier with some "technology." The Cal amp had to ability to mute channels for better sound quality in stereo. That appeals to me with Krell as well. Have you tried muting some of the channels and listening with only 2 playing? With the Cal amp, the stereo was significantly improved. I like that you can use the webpage of the Krell amplifiers to mute channels, observe operating temperatures and turn the amps on an off. I sometimes use my iPhone to turn the amp off and look at the temps.

I believe your JTR speakers are very efficient? I think you could get away with even less power. Have you considered the Theater 7 XD? It's less power and likely less heat so 7 channels of class A ibas, shouldn't be a problem. The reviews are all raves on that amp.I keep being told the Duo 175 Xd is the best amplifier in the Krell line-up and sounds better than the Duo 300 XD. Perhaps one of those to go with your Chorus 5200?

You likely however can pick up the ATI 6007 and sell your Chorus 5200 without much expense. I'm betting the ATI will be a drop in sound quality as will just about anything else competing with Krells new XD stuff. It will not be a hugh drop as again the ATI is a fine sonic performer, it's just Krell's kicking everyone's rear with the XD stuff.

I'm new to owing a Krell amplifier. I hate the look and the fans. I am just going to have to suffer both for the sound quality.

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Krell is much more expensive than ATI. The ATI is the better bargain and a great amp. I was very happy with the ATI amp until I bought the Krell. I had the Duo 300 non-XD first and it was better than my ATI 6005. Then I bought the Duo 300 XD and it is just another level from my ATI amplifier. The highs are vivid and detailed without being harsh. I can't say I've heard better dynamics. I've had a bunch of 8-10k stereo amps at home over the last 20 years from most of the well known brands. The Duo 300 XD is easily the best stereo amp, I've owned. The Non-XD stuff, is OK, an ordinary high-end amp. The XD stuff is a bargain. If you don't have the XD version of your amp, I'm pretty certain that's going to be a bigger sonic upgrade than adding the two extra channels.

I spoke with tech support at Krell and asked if the Chorus 7200, 7 channel over heated. The joys of Class A, come with the consequence of heat even with the ibias stuff. I didn't get a direct answer. The answer I was given was that the Chorus 7200XD also ran cooler and there were improvements since the original Chorus.

About 20 years ago, when I first started posting on this forum, I wanted POWER! I ran a California Audio Labs MCA that produces 500 watts into 8 ohm into 5 channels, 750 watts if you use the 1% distortion guide. It was a huge Class A/B amplifier with a digital switching power supply which allowed it to produce that much power. That amp still produced excellent sound quality so I felt like I "had my cake and ate it too." I fell like I'm doing that even more so with the Krell. I think Krells XD stuff are the best amps I've heard around their price point, well double their price point.

I was looking for an amplifier with some "technology." The Cal amp had to ability to mute channels for better sound quality in stereo. That appeals to me with Krell as well. Have you tried muting some of the channels and listening with only 2 playing? With the Cal amp, the stereo was significantly improved. I like that you can use the webpage of the Krell amplifiers to mute channels, observe operating temperatures and turn the amps on an off. I sometimes use my iPhone to turn the amp off and look at the temps.

I believe your JTR speakers are very efficient? I think you could get away with even less power. Have you considered the Theater 7 XD? It's less power and likely less heat so 7 channels of class A ibas, shouldn't be a problem. The reviews are all raves on that amp.I keep being told the Duo 175 Xd is the best amplifier in the Krell line-up and sounds better than the Duo 300 XD. Perhaps one of those to go with your Chorus 5200?

You likely however can pick up the ATI 6007 and sell your Chorus 5200 without much expense. I'm betting the ATI will be a drop in sound quality as will just about anything else competing with Krells new XD stuff. It will not be a hugh drop as again the ATI is a fine sonic performer, it's just Krell's kicking everyone's rear with the XD stuff.

I'm new to owing a Krell amplifier. I hate the look and the fans. I am just going to have to suffer both for the sound quality.
Yeah, I have read the XD upgrade is substantial. Maybe I'll just sell mine hopefully and grab a 7200XD. I am speaking w/ the COO Monday, even consdiering the THeater 7XD. A friend has it but says it might not have enough power for when I crank the JTRs...but I'll see what Walter @ Krell says. Thanks for the input - its interesting, I know people that have switched to ATI amps and love them. They talk about the highs being more clear and many other benefits. But, I"m always up for more rading haha

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Yeah, I have read the XD upgrade is substantial. Maybe I'll just sell mine hopefully and grab a 7200XD. I am speaking w/ the COO Monday, even consdiering the THeater 7XD. A friend has it but says it might not have enough power for when I crank the JTRs...but I'll see what Walter @ Krell says. Thanks for the input - its interesting, I know people that have switched to ATI amps and love them. They talk about the highs being more clear and many other benefits. But, I"m always up for more rading haha
There is a difference in presentation of the amplifiers. Specs on the ATI are superb. It's a great amplifier. I would say the highs on the Krell XD stuff are smoother and ATI is crisper. With amplifiers, I think this is were personal preference is greatest, the highs. One person's "bright" highs, are another person's extended. I don't think ATI is bright sounding, I just have a stronger preference for the Krell XD presentation. It's a non-fatiguing sound that I can listen to for hours.

I read this review of the Krell K-300i http://www.audioreference.co.nz/revi...return-classic which I think does a good job of describing Krell's new XD sound. "Fully anticipating big dynamics and a tonal balance favoring the lowest octaves, as with past Krell product, the K-300i is vastly different from past Krell efforts. It’s a top to bottom improvement towards a more refined, yet more musical sound. The lower registers are more refined and controlled at the same time.

Retaining the dynamics and forceful low end that’s made Krell famous with audiophiles the world over, the K-300i is more nuanced and natural in its musical delivery. There is a sweetness to the sound that is reminiscent of the original KSA-50. The K-300i is non-fatiguing, inviting you to turn up the volume on your favorite tracks – right out of the box. That’s always a great sign. Remember, Krell amplifiers are still class-A, but thanks to Krell’s current i-Bias topology, they don’t run as hot, or draw as much power at low volume levels as the original models did. Yet the K-300i still draws 900 watts from the AC line at full output – and generates a fair amount of heat.

Utilizing a wide range of speakers from Sunny Cable, Lansche and PBN, nothing threw the Krell a curve ball it could not field. After a solid week of burn in, some direct comparisons to my reference D’Agostino Momentum Preamplifier and Pass Labs XA200.5 monoblocks, reveals the big bucks gear still having the edge, but it’s not as big as you might think. The key word here is value. This is performance that would have been unheard of ten years ago for this price.

Great with all sources

This newfound balance altered my approach. Past Krell components always had me reaching for the more bombastic selections in my music collection, but the K-300i sends me to vocal rich recordings, exploring the heart of the mid band and treble in ways that older Krell designs did not inspire as a first move. From Sarah Vaughn’s previously unreleased concert pressed by Devialet, via my VPI Avenger Reference, with the Gryphon Sonett and Boulder 508 phono stages, it’s easy to see what this amplifier does so well.

Liquidity, color, expressive dynamics, and space. All positive aspects of these two phono stages, and the differences between them are clearly rendered by the K-300i, revealing the emotion present in the recordings auditioned. Sarah Vaughn’s vocals sound full of life at times and a weary at others. Eva Cassidy’s Live at Blues Alley is another familiar go-to when trying to reproduce inflection, a wide range of dynamic control, and emotional impact. “Bridge Over Troubled Water” from this band is wonderful, and though I’ve heard this recording so many times, the Krell never gets in the way of the music."

This guy, that I do not know, does a great job of kind of describing the sound as well,

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I was recently in a similar situation regarding a new (5-channel) amp choice as you but I had narrowed it down to the ATI Ncore series amplifiers and the 5-CHerry.

Drumrolll...I decided to go with the 5-CHerry for my JTR speakers.

While my usage is 100% movies, there is a lot of music in movies.

I want up getting a demo unit directly from DAC because they had one available.

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