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New Receiver or Converter

Hi Everyone,

I’m trying to figure out what’s the best solution would be to move forward. In my basement I have a Denon AVR-X4100W which is a great receiver. I’m looking at getting a 4K TV for that setup but my receiver is only 1.4HDCP compliant and not 2.2.

So what I’m debating is either buying a new receiver to replace this one or buying a converter to allow for the handshake to work. I was looking at the Fury which is about $300. It looks like it does 4:4:4 chroma, but I’m concerned there will still be quality loss with a converter.

So what would you guys do? Buy a new receiver or spend money on the converter? Again I love the receiver. I actually have a AVR-X4300H in my family room which I love. I don’t want to spend a ton of money, but I also want to make sure what I do will work. It seems crazy I would have to get rid of an awesome receiver just because of HDCP issues.
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The HD fury is a more sensible financial solution, especially since you like the x4100. It has a ton of good reviews on Amazon.



There a few new models so do your research https://www.amazon.com/stores/HDFury/node/12088257011
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Does the X4100W support HDR passthrough, even though it lacks HDCP 2.2? I believe HDR support requires HDMI 2.0a; the X4100W may only have HDMI 2.0.

IMHO, HDR is of greater value than 4k resolution.
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I have an extra avr key that I can sell you. It will do what you want.

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Hi Everyone,

I’m trying to figure out what’s the best solution would be to move forward. In my basement I have a Denon AVR-X4100W which is a great receiver. I’m looking at getting a 4K TV for that setup but my receiver is only 1.4HDCP compliant and not 2.2.

So what I’m debating is either buying a new receiver to replace this one or buying a converter to allow for the handshake to work. I was looking at the Fury which is about $300. It looks like it does 4:4:4 chroma, but I’m concerned there will still be quality loss with a converter.

So what would you guys do? Buy a new receiver or spend money on the converter? Again I love the receiver. I actually have a AVR-X4300H in my family room which I love. I don’t want to spend a ton of money, but I also want to make sure what I do will work. It seems crazy I would have to get rid of an awesome receiver just because of HDCP issues.
So, new 4k players come with 2 hdmi outs, one for video/sound and another for lossless sound output only for legacy avr's. As well you can buy a hdmi breakout box for components with only hdmi out(no coax, toslink for lossy sound) and run sound only direct.

For me the players the important output that has lossless. All other components that are streamed, not so important; sound great in dd. Compression kills streamed services in my opinion.

Cheers

Almost forgot, you can loop sound from your tv back to your avr as well. Not ideal if your a picky bastard like me, but it works well(mostly)
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So, new 4k players come with 2 hdmi outs, one for video/sound and another for lossless sound output only for legacy avr's. As well you can buy a hdmi breakout box for components with only hdmi out(no coax, toslink for lossy sound) and run sound only direct.

For me the players the important output that has lossless. All other components that are streamed, not so important; sound great in dd. Compression kills streamed services in my opinion.

Cheers

Almost forgot, you can loop sound from your tv back to your avr as well. Not ideal if your a picky bastard like me, but it works well(mostly)
This might be my best option. I have an Xbox one S that I’ve been using for 4K HDR. I believe it only has one HDMI out. If I were to use a splitter like the one below, would that work? Is there a drop in quality splitting the signal? I’m concerned I’ll have great video quality in 4K 4:4:4 and HDR, but I’m worried the receiver will not play the Dolby atmos signal.

I also run 4K Apple TV’s throughout the house for streaming content. I am concerned if I’m playing a show in Netflix that offers 4K and atmos the tv will get the 4K signal, but the receiver will not play atmos because of the HDCP 1.4 vs 2.2. Will this work with a splitter? On my 1080P TV in the basement which this receiver is connected to it wont play the atmos signal.
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This might be my best option. I have an Xbox one S that I’ve been using for 4K HDR. I believe it only has one HDMI out. If I were to use a splitter like the one below, would that work? Is there a drop in quality splitting the signal? I’m concerned I’ll have great video quality in 4K 4:4:4 and HDR, but I’m worried the receiver will not play the Dolby atmos signal.

I also run 4K Apple TV’s throughout the house for streaming content. I am concerned if I’m playing a show in Netflix that offers 4K and atmos the tv will get the 4K signal, but the receiver will not play atmos because of the HDCP 1.4 vs 2.2. Will this work with a splitter? On my 1080P TV in the basement which this receiver is connected to it wont play the atmos signal.
Picky bastard...me I meant

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