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Denon x-4500H vs x-3600h as a pre/pro

I want to upgrade my system from 7.2 to 7.2.4 and need to upgrade my Denon 3808-CI. This will also get me 4K capability on the HDMI as my next step will be a projector upgrade, most likely to a JVC RS-2000.

I have outboard Emotiva amps (XPA-2 and XPA-5) and do not use any of the amps in the current receiver. My thought is to use 4 of the amps in the new receiver for the new ceiling speakers and keep using the Emotiva amps as they are.

From my reading I do not see any advantage to the x-4500H other than a bit more amp power, which I doubt is needed.

As far as I can tell, both models will let me:
  • Assign the internal amps for the ceiling speakers.
  • Use preamp outputs to run the Emotiva amps for the 7.2 part
  • Use the same Audyssey software.


Have I missed anything important? My thought is to use the X-3600H as it is a bit cheaper and a newer model.

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I have the older X4300H. Its speaker assignment allows you to set which pair of speakers only have a signal available on the pre-outs (and don't use any of the 9 onboard amps). The choices are the LR fronts or the rear height speakers. I'm not absolutely certain, but I believe that the 3600 and 4500 are the same.

All of the pre-outs are active, all the time.

The 3600 is a 2019 model, and includes Dolby height virtualization and DTS Virtual:X. (Not useful if you're building a real Atmos setup.) The 4500 (2018, but still current) gives you Auro3D. A few people use that. (Mostly in Europe, I suppose. Not sure how much source material for it is available in North America.)

The 4500 has a metal front panel and a 2 line display. The 3600 apparently has a plastic front panel and a 1 line display.

The 4500 makes a small amount more power than the 3600, and weighs more.

The 3600 was more attractive a few weeks ago when it was widely available for $900US, new. It's now $1100 at the online majors.

I've had the 4300, which I bought as a refurb, for almost 3 years. I like it. I use it in an Atmos 7.2.4 setup, with an Emotiva XPA3 Gen3 powering the LCR fronts, and the AVR supplying the other 8 channels.
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I have the older X4300H. Its speaker assignment allows you to set which pair of speakers only have a signal available on the pre-outs (and don't use any of the 9 onboard amps). The choices are the LR fronts or the rear height speakers. I'm not absolutely certain, but I believe that the 3600 and 4500 are the same.

All of the pre-outs are active, all the time.

The 3600 is a 2019 model, and includes Dolby height virtualization and DTS Virtual:X. (Not useful if you're building a real Atmos setup.) The 4500 (2018, but still current) gives you Auro3D. A few people use that. (Mostly in Europe, I suppose. Not sure how much source material for it is available in North America.)
Since it's release almost 5 years ago, for many members, the Auro 3D AuroMatic simulator has been much preferred for 2CH music sources over either Dolby Surround or DTS Neural:X.
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I want to upgrade my system from 7.2 to 7.2.4 and need to upgrade my Denon 3808-CI. This will also get me 4K capability on the HDMI as my next step will be a projector upgrade, most likely to a JVC RS-2000.

I have outboard Emotiva amps (XPA-2 and XPA-5) and do not use any of the amps in the current receiver. My thought is to use 4 of the amps in the new receiver for the new ceiling speakers and keep using the Emotiva amps as they are.

From my reading I do not see any advantage to the x-4500H other than a bit more amp power, which I doubt is needed.
Depends on your requirements as each model offers features the other does not.

Review post 1 in each of the 2018 and 2019 Denon AVR Owner's threads for model differences.
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Since it's release almost 5 years ago, for many members, the Auro 3D AuroMatic simulator has been much preferred for 2CH music sources over either Dolby Surround or DTS Neural:X.
Aromatic? Let's keep odor out of this.

Thanks for the information. I haven't participated in the Auro 3D threads, or paid the $199US for the upgrade for my X4300H. I listen to stereo as 2.2, almost exclusively.
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