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What type of receiver for this room

For this size and listening position, what type of receiver should I get, 5.2 or 7.2 or 7.2 with Dolby DTS:X

I am choosing between the 3 receivers below

Amp Power is not an issue as Front speakers will be powered by a separate power amp



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Only the SR5014 has full pre outs, so I would choose it for that reason alone.
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Only the SR5014 has full pre outs, so I would choose it for that reason alone.
I only need pre-outs for the fronts, 50 watts from the AVR should be enough to power small rears and atmos speakers
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NR1710, it will give you 5.2.2, pre-outs for connecting a 2 channel amp for your Front L & R and it both Dolby Atmos & DTS:X
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Given my room size and seating arrangement, can I properly setup a 5.2.2 system ?
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I only need pre-outs for the fronts, 50 watts from the AVR should be enough to power small rears and atmos speakers
you can't have both at the same time, it's either or it's a 7 channel amp and the primary 5 are not assignable. you must choose either rear surrounds (lower bed) OR heights (higher bed)

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Given my room size and seating arrangement, can I properly setup a 5.2.2 system ?
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Can you please dumb this down a bit, I am a 2.1 person, i have setup 5.1 for friends but nothing beyond 5.1

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you can't have both at the same time, it's either or it's a 7 channel amp and the primary 5 are not assignable. you must choose either rear surrounds (lower bed) OR heights (higher bed)
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Can you please dumb this down a bit, I am a 2.1 person, i have setup 5.1 for friends but nothing beyond 5.1
not sure how to make it any dumber JK, but seriously, you can only have either 7.2 or 5.2.2 a total of 7 amplified/processed channels (not including the sub(s) which you can have a maximum of two, hence the .2)

have you not looked at the rear layout of the receiver. notice the channel 6 & 7 (surround rear) have the word assignable at the bottom? well, that means that you can have a pair of speakers connected to them and they can be used as surround rear OR height. any dumber than that, someone else is gonna have to help you.

hope it helped.

again, bottom line, you can only have 7 amplified channels processed, period.
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Can you please dumb this down a bit, I am a 2.1 person, i have setup 5.1 for friends but nothing beyond 5.1

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you can't have both at the same time, it's either or it's a 7 channel amp and the primary 5 are not assignable. you must choose either rear surrounds (lower bed) OR heights (higher bed)
Let’s start with the very basic simple question first

What do you wanna do?

5.1 floor speakers with 2 height speakers

Or

7.1 floor speakers with 2 height speakers
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Got it !!! thanks, the 6 & 7 channels that can be assigned is all new to me

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again, bottom line, you can only have 7 amplified channels processed, period.
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Let’s start with the very basic simple question first

What do you wanna do?

5.1 floor speakers with 2 height speakers

Or

7.1 floor speakers with 2 height speakers
Honestly I do not know which would be best given the room layout.

I have fronts that would be floorstander
The rest rears/atmos/surrounds can only be placed anywhere at the ceiling which is 8 ft high.
MLP is 5ft from the backwall
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Let’s start with the very basic simple question first

What do you wanna do?

5.1 floor speakers with 2 height speakers

Or

7.1 floor speakers with 2 height speakers
the receiver can't do that, it's a 7 channel ONLY receiver. what you just said is a 9 channel receiver.


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you can reassign two channels to be either surround back L&R or height L&R, a total of 7 channels, 7.2 or 5.2.2 since he wants ATMOS/DTS:X if he doesn't not want upper bed channels, then he can go either 5.2 or 7.2 but that's it

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Honestly I do not know which would be best given the room layout.

I have fronts that would be floorstander
The rest rears/atmos/surrounds can only be placed anywhere at the ceiling which is 8 ft high.
MLP is 5ft from the backwall
you really need to do some youtube video watching on ATMOS/DTS:X layouts.

the only speakers that should be on the ceiling are heights, conventional surrounds (side or rear) should be down as close as possible to ear level when seated.

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There is no option for the rear / side speakers to be at floor level.

Unless they are this small

How would really small speakers for rears affect the experience when mated to larger fronts with 12 inch woofers. Subwoofers would be 12 and 18 inches located behind MLP





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you really need to do some youtube video watching on ATMOS/DTS:X layouts.

the only speakers that should be on the ceiling are heights, conventional surrounds (side or rear) should be down as close as possible to ear level when seated.

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There is no option for the rear / side speakers to be at floor level.
ok, then you won't get the proper effects at all for ATMOS/DTS:X if you were interested since you are saying your going to have to have surrounds/heights all mounted up on the ceiling. there will be no audio differential for you to hear. you might as well just go with conventional 5 or 7.x system and not do ATMOS/DTS:X

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There is no option for the rear / side speakers to be at floor level.

Unless the are this small

well with that quick edit the size of speaker is up to you and your listening pleasure. i'll say it again, if surrounds and height speakers are all going to be mounted on the ceiling, it makes absolutely no sense to do ATMOS/DTS:X as it won't sound correct.

also, i said ear level when seated, not floor level.

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Would it be better to have regular bookshelf for rears but up in the ceiling or really small speakers at ear level ?
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Would it be better to have regular bookshelf for rears but up in the ceiling or really small speakers at ear level ?
those are personal preferences, you gotta decide something for yourself. how about first determining the setup you want then the nature and type of speakers you will go with to fit your layout.

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Since the 7.2 is configurable, I think I will go with that type of receiver, as for the rears, since I already have the "large" rear speakers, might as well install that on the ceiling and see how it goes. I can eventually try smaller rears at ear level

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the receiver can't do that, it's a 7 channel ONLY receiver. what you just said is a 9 channel receiver.


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you can reassign two channels to be either surround back L&R or height L&R, a total of 7 channels, 7.2 or 5.2.2 since he wants ATMOS/DTS:X if he doesn't not want upper bed channels, then he can go either 5.2 or 7.2 but that's it
Ummm I know that

I asked it that way specifically to eliminate the fact that the guy is 100% that a 5.1 with 2 height is what he is going for

some times the naming configuration can be difficult for some people when first starting out. I've seen people think that a 7.1 ONLY receiver could allow them to do 7.1 floor speakers and they can add an external 2 channel amp to add height speakers

Of course the confusion part comes from the fact that there are some models that are 7.1 that can be expanded while there are some 7.1 that can't and can only strictly do 7.1 without ability to expand via any other way

And since my friend here wanted to add an amp for his front stage he could also be thinking that by doing that it can free up the 7 channels in the AVR

So that's why I broke it down in simple dumb terms first to get a basic understanding of what he is trying to accomplish with his set up
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