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Lyngdorf Announces The New MP-40 (Ships In June 2020)!

This one was just announced to their dealers (I'm one of them). See a teaser video

Once I know more, I will post accordingly. The dealer links that they emailed me don't have pricing. I'll call the National Sales Manager and post accordingly. I found a link (our dealer links about pricing etc doesn't work).
https://lyngdorf.com/lyngdorf-mp-40/...RzniQbHysR5PX0

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Video outputs: 1 x HDMI ((2.0b – HDCP 2.2 – eARC )
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Dimensions (H x W x D): 14.0 x 45.0 x 35.9 cm 5.51 x 17.7 x 14.1 inches
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Update: I will advise once I learn more and post accordingly. I do know they are taking orders for June 2020 shipments.

The MP-40 is a 12 channel processor. It reminds me of an MP-50 without the matrix 2 channel overheads. Also, Roon was added as well. Additionally, with a newly designed 3 input HDMI video board using HDMI 2.0b.

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This has been generating quite a bit of interest in the U.K., no U.K. price details thus far but I know lyngdorf has pretty good pricing in the US - george

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This has been generating quite a bit of interest in the U.K., no U.K. price details thus far but I know lyngdorf has pretty good pricing in the US - george
I should know more about pricing in about 2 hours. I don't dare text my USA contact at 6AM as he is in the PST zone. lol I will say, they have kept this a surprise.

I've sold a lot of MP-50's and MP-60's over the years. At a more aggressive price point, this could be an interesting option. Dirac based prepro's have come down a lot in price. I suspect this one will be priced with the competition in mind.

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I should know more about pricing in about 2 hours. I don't dare text my USA contact at 6AM as he is in the PST zone. lol I will say, they have kept this a surprise.

I've sold a lot of MP-50's and MP-60's over the years. At a more aggressive price point, this could be an interesting option. Dirac based prepro's have come down a lot in price. I suspect this one will be priced with the competition in mind.
Tomorrow I should be receiving an ex-dem eARC MP-50. Phew - otherwise the reduced price of this could have been a little frustrating as compared to MP-50 (eARC) list in the UK - George

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If this is a 12ch processor without the matrixing of the MP-50, what are the 4 AUX outputs used for? An additional 4 subwoofers?

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Very interested in hearing more about this!
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I just heard back from the factory. The MSRP is $9499 USD. It's less $$'s than the MP-50 (it was $9999) but with an upgraded video board. The MP-60 is $12,999.

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I know this is very high end stuff, but isn't 3 HDMI inputs a pretty limiting thing? A cable STB/Tivo, UHD player, Apple TV, XBOX, PS4 = 5.

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I know this is very high end stuff, but isn't 3 HDMI inputs a pretty limiting thing? A cable STB/Tivo, UHD player, Apple TV, XBOX, PS4 = 5.
I'm only guessing here. But they don't want to cannibalize their $12,999 product. 5 would have been preferred. That all said, I'm an AppleTV and DVD guy. I could add in a cable box. I just described 90% of the users.

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I'm only guessing here. But they don't want to cannibalize their $12,999 product. 5 would have been preferred. That all said, I'm an AppleTV and DVD guy. I could add in a cable box. I just described 90% of the users.
I wonder what the average number of HDMI source devices is for people with $20k+ front ends (i.e. these processors and a commensurate number of quality amplifiers).

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I wonder what the average number of HDMI source devices is for people with $20k+ front ends (i.e. these processors and a commensurate number of quality amplifiers).

I think six or seven is often overkill, but three inputs would be consumed by a single streaming box, BR player, and game console, with no room for expansion. I would also think in this price range having two HDMI outputs (projector and flat screen) could also be useful.
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HDMI 2.0b still max out at 18giga with no FRL support. Apparently they made a card-based approach to maybe support FRL later on? Are there nay rumors about that?
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I know this is very high end stuff, but isn't 3 HDMI inputs a pretty limiting thing? A cable STB/Tivo, UHD player, Apple TV, XBOX, PS4 = 5.
Yeah. I would like an MP-20 with something like 11 channels where 4 are subwoofers. (7.4.0?) and all that space for those 5 channels I don't want are HDMI inputs.

Let's see. I have streamer, BD player, PS3, Roku, and a Tivo. Throw in an Xbox and that's 6.
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Some people are looking at some smart HDMI switches that add quite a few HDMIs for circa £150 - so the HDMI issue is solvable - george

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I agree. Should have atleast 5 HDMI inputs. 3 are not enough in this age for a $10K processor
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Do we know for sure that the MP-40 isn't a quasi-16 ch processor like the MP-50?

Except for the HDMI, the back panels are identical, so potentially the Aux outs could be matrixed wides and top middles like the MP-50.

I didn't see anything that said either way.

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Do we know for sure that the MP-40 isn't a quasi-16 ch processor like the MP-50?

Except for the HDMI, the back panels are identical, so potentially the Aux outs could be matrixed wides and top middles like the MP-50.

I didn't see anything that said either way.
UK press have reported it as 12 channel decode with 16 output channels so it will support 7.5.4 max. More info here:
https://lyngdorf.com/lyngdorf-mp-40/

Also of note is it has no analogue inputs at all.
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UK press have reported it as 12 channel decode with 16 output channels so it will support 7.5.4 max.

Yes but that applies to the MP-50 as well.

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Some people are looking at some smart HDMI switches that add quite a few HDMIs for circa £150 - so the HDMI issue is solvable - george
I have 2 switches like that. They add a bit of clutter and would ruin the aesthetic of the Lyngdorf :-).
Maybe everybody that makes a processor should just always make a cosmetically matching HDMI switcher box. Krell is doing that for the Foundation.
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I have 2 switches like that. They add a bit of clutter and would ruin the aesthetic of the Lyngdorf :-)

I also dislike extra boxes, but can't you hide it somewhere?

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I also dislike extra boxes, but can't you hide it somewhere?
Yeah, but they are finicky enough that one wants them handy to thwack as necessary.
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Here is the comparison between the processors.
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The MP-40 definitely is an interesting product. Four HDMI inputs would have been the ticket...I assume the MP-50 will be discontinued especially since the MSRP’s are so close?
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Lyngdorf Announces The New MP-40 (Ships In June 2020)!

What is the built in HDMI matrix that’s missing on the MP40?

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It indicates app control but no WiFi, is the app Bluetooth control? No WiFi is an issue for my streaming outside my dedicated room. Can you use a USB WiFi dongle?
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What is the built in HDMI matrix that’s missing on the MP40?

I was wondering what that meant too.

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It indicates app control but no WiFi, is the app Bluetooth control? No WiFi is an issue for my streaming outside my dedicated room. Can you use a USB WiFi dongle?

It's definitely got full Wi-Fi.
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Does the mp40 have a second zone? And can you apply room perfect to zone 2?

Also is there gonna be and upgrade path for this unit?


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Does the mp40 have a second zone? And can you apply room perfect to zone 2?

It has a Zone Out RCA in the same place as the MP-50, just above the back panel power switch with the trigger connectors.

Presumably it's the same, i.e. a digital coaxial output, so you'd need an outboard DAC to use it, and no RP.
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