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Tiny Class D 3.1 AV receiver?

Must I buy a soundbar?

I would really like to buy 3 identical bookshelf speakers and power them with a tiny and inexpensive AV receiver that only does what I want, power the left, center and right channels for watching movies.
Essentially I want someone to take the guts out of a soundbar, put it into a little box that I could then hook up to the speakers of my choice.

I have had a 7.1 system in the past when I had a projector. I had three KEF speakers behind AT screen. They were great but the rest didn't add that much extra for the hassle. So now that I have a new TV on the hunt for something that sounds good and looks good. Right now I am torn between soundbar and powered 2.1 speaker setup hooked up to my TVs audio out, something like the Kanto 4's.

any ideas?

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I think it may depend on your seating position and amount of listeners. If you're listening to a stereo mix and you're centered between your speakers you should get a convincing "phantom center" due to good imaging. If there are multiple seating positions, or you have a really wide couch then you will not get that "phantom center" and a dedicated center channel would really help. Our YU4 + subwoofer should be sufficient for HT applications but it's up to you and how your setup is arranged to determine if a center channel is a necessity.
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Marantz "NR-series" slimline AVRs is about the smallest you will find.
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Marantz "NR-series" slimline AVRs is about the smallest you will find.
The Integra DSX-3 is even smaller (under 3 inches tall) but harder to find and definitely has less power.
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Must I buy a soundbar?

I would really like to buy 3 identical bookshelf speakers and power them with a tiny and inexpensive AV receiver that only does what I want, power the left, center and right channels for watching movies.
Essentially I want someone to take the guts out of a soundbar, put it into a little box that I could then hook up to the speakers of my choice.

I have had a 7.1 system in the past when I had a projector. I had three KEF speakers behind AT screen. They were great but the rest didn't add that much extra for the hassle. So now that I have a new TV on the hunt for something that sounds good and looks good. Right now I am torn between soundbar and powered 2.1 speaker setup hooked up to my TVs audio out, something like the Kanto 4's.

any ideas?
I don't know of a 3.1, but I totally agree with your position.

for a low cost 2.1 solution: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=18512

higher cost is the new Sonos AMP - have HDMI and ARC support

also for simplicity is the older Sonos soundbar.

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I think it may depend on your seating position and amount of listeners. If you're listening to a stereo mix and you're centered between your speakers you should get a convincing "phantom center" due to good imaging. If there are multiple seating positions, or you have a really wide couch then you will not get that "phantom center" and a dedicated center channel would really help. Our YU4 + subwoofer should be sufficient for HT applications but it's up to you and how your setup is arranged to determine if a center channel is a necessity.

Seating position: Couch that holds 3 people max 10 ft away from 65 inch screen, so two speakers might be 7 and a half ft apart and ear level at lest.



As opposed to a small sound bar, which might just be 2.1 and no center channel, where the speakers might be two feet apart and under the TV below ear level.

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Must I buy a soundbar?
Of course not, but if u wanto keep things simple a powered SB with built-in dolby processing and you won't even have to have the separate receiver, assuming no am/fm needed.
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Of course not, but if u wanto keep things simple a powered SB with built-in dolby processing and you won't even have to have the separate receiver, assuming no am/fm needed.

Yes, that is the designated path of least resistance. Powered speaker is also simple, just seems to be some uncertainty about how well the TVs audio out deals with left middle and right. I see the new Vizio 5.1 soundbar at $250 now has a center channel.

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Must I buy a soundbar? ...a tiny and inexpensive AV receiver that only...power the left, center and right
Get an AVR and don't use some channels, no harm done. I don't believe what you want exists, the market is too small. Or just run stereo-stereo into good speakers will sound better than a soundbar with L/R like a meter apart. Stereo components have gotten crazy small depending how much power you demand.

If you do go to a soundbar https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/e.../tv-sound/tvb2
is crazy cheap, made of metal, has a solid wireless sub, and sounded really musical at an L.A. audio show. We listened to a bunch of different stuff for about 2 hours.
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Not finding what I really wanted, I am about ready to give in and go cheap and cheerful with the new Vizio V51-H6. It's a 5.1 with center speaker and dialog EQ.

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Are you talking about small priced or physically small?

Some physically small sized boxes are more expensive, they are selling you aesthetic. Small sized 3.1... tough.

Small priced... buy used 5.1, your local Good Will may have one... or Craiglst.
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Pioneer has a small receiver. Still wide and deep tho.

https://www.pioneerhomeusa.com/product/vsx-s520-2/

Yamaha too.
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audi...2_u/index.html
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Are you talking about small priced or physically small?

Some physically small sized boxes are more expensive, they are selling you aesthetic. Small sized 3.1... tough.

Small priced... buy used 5.1, your local Good Will may have one... or Craiglst.

Exactly, and it's that aesthetic I want to buy. I could probably ask around and get a big old used 5.1 for free. I had one in the past, but now I find them depressing.

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Have you looked at the NAD D 3045? It is only 2.1 but nice and small with class D.

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