Originally Posted by papamiraculi
As stated somewhere above I have the same problem.
What I have found out so far is this:
It has nothing to do with Amps or Receivers. I have tried four different manufacturers. No change.
Room acoustics are part of the problem, as slight room treatment (basetraps, absorbers) have made it easier to listen to music.
Apart from that, even changing the room (I moved two years ago) didnt solve the problem.
Im having most of my problems with bass. After getting rid of my shelf speaker and subwoofer combo and buying a full range standing speaker it improved a lot. I dont use a sub anymore.
Speaker placement in the room is crucial. Its a matter off centimenters but sometimes there is a huge difference in only 1-2cm.
Decent room correction helps, too. I now use Audyssey XT, the new version which lets you do changes via the app.
For stereo a good parametric equalizer should be fine, too.
I can now listen to music again comfortably. From time to time I get the problems again (cant explain why). Then I just switch off. The next day it can be good again without having changed anything. Very strange. I also suspected the power grid itself, but since I have moved without any change that doesnt make sense anymore.
I also highly suspect that we are hypersensitive to a certain frequency and/or phase differnces (which by themselves can boost/kill frequencies).
New, better speakers (and maybe even new wires, if you beleive so) probably reproduce the given frequency better, which makes it sound better but also causes our problems.
Try some of the suggestion above. Id start with the equalizer.
The problem is after every change you have to wait until the pain dissolves to see if it is any better.
This is VERY helpful! All of your experiences!
The room/house exchange (power supply exchange) and amp exchange you've mentioned.
The more we speak about, the more I think the frequency (over)sensitivity is to blame.
In my story: The exchange of the wire changed muddyness in my Sony's speaker's bass and bass had suddenly much more definition and slightly more impact and punch (much better sound, so to say). As same it was with any new speakers, because everything was better with bass than my old-wired Sony's. Once when my friend said that I have very subtle, tiny bass in my audio system. So maybe that's why I can tolerate it? Almost no bass? Some frequencies silenced? So equalizer and basstraps might help to improve the total sound without hurting my ears. But still, even if it helps it does not mean everything is normal with me and my setup.
Any tips on good equalizer to plug in to my Denon? It has only manual corrections, sadly. And the DAC is built in.
I could replace it to solve my problem, but I love the way it reproduces vocals and... you know.
I know from app at my phone that I have 60-100 Hz frequvency emphasized in my room and that speaker's I've failed with had it slightly more that my old-wired Sony's. But my old-wired Sony's never hurted me. And the difference at new speakers I've tested was not so huge and obvious to blame all problems at it at the first glance. Or, better to say, noone in audio industry blames bass for hurting ears so dramatically. But I never had a sub because I never miss any loud bass i my system...