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post #151 of 168 Old 03-20-2015, 12:32 AM
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about as long as CD-4 and Quadraphonic and SQ..oh wait ,i still have those
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Personally, I love it. I'm an amateur at home theater how-to, but I love having sound above me during the most recent Transformers flick. Looking forward to all the Netflix Blu Rays we just added that were mixed in Atmos, too!

So, future, I hope.
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about as long as CD-4 and Quadraphonic and SQ..oh wait ,i still have those
I've never heard of CD-4. Quad I have heard of. Do you still use it?

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Atmos and DTS: X in receivers is going to be initially expensive like all new AV equipment that comes out. It will eventually be in all budget receivers. Then all the people who don't really care will buy their inexpensive receiver and object-based sound bars and be done with it. As for me, I'm installing as many damned speakers as my wife will let me purchase, set it up the way it was meant to be set up and enjoy multiple eargasms on a daily basis.
First of all, love your avatar. Second, I agree with everything you said. Amen brother.
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check out www.quadraphonicquad.com I had a sansui quad decoder for CD-4 (used with a beautiful B&O straight arm turntable 4000) sansui SQ decoder, and quadraphonic LP's (used with 2 dyanaco amps,a bose 4 channel preamp and 4 advent speakers).
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I started doing some heavy research on this as my amp had some age problems and I thought I might need to do a hasty replacement. I think there are two ways to look at this:

1. Object based formats are absolutely here to stay. Not because the consumer loves it, or it drives more people to the theater but because it is simply an easier and more logical way to mix sound. I would be interested in hearing the opinion of people in the industry for an experienced view point but from what I read - it makes a lot more sense.

2. Consumer adoption is likely to be moderate at best. Audiophiles and guys with a spaceship home theater design will pursue before 'mom and dad' will. I think down the road the processing will allow an existing 5.1/7.1/9.1/11.1 system to playback these formats just like its been done in the past, albeit without the 'true' advantage of the extra speakers.

just my $.02...
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Object based formats are absolutely here to stay. Not because the consumer loves it, or it drives more people to the theater but because it is simply an easier and more logical way to mix sound. I would be interested in hearing the opinion of people in the industry for an experienced view point but from what I read - it makes a lot more sense.
Shifting gears from the cinema to legacy audio for a minute,.....

In a perfect world, recording companies would go through their vaults and re-release old multichannel masters in their native (non-mixed-down) mode. Playback would be accomplished by a standalone object processor (laptop based) which would re-map the playback scheme to any configuration desired.

Admittedly this is a fanciful indulgence, as there would not be a large market for this content. The only reason it might happen is that the source material is already in the can and just needs some post-production conversion, and could not be readily co-opted by commercial streaming services. Which is the major challenge to the music industry right now.
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check out www.quadraphonicquad.com I had a sansui quad decoder for CD-4 (used with a beautiful B&O straight arm turntable 4000) sansui SQ decoder, and quadraphonic LP's (used with 2 dyanaco amps,a bose 4 channel preamp and 4 advent speakers).
no longer in use..no quad lp's
I just checked out the site. My head almost blew up checking out a format I have never really checked out. Neat stuff!

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So.... It has been 4 years!

Fad, or future?
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Future. It's ubiquitous at this point. Even entry level 5.1 receivers are starting to have Atmos decoding and height virtualization. More and more content being mixed in Atmos.

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I know Atmos would probably sound good in my room. But, I already got a 7.2 system and that's good enough for me.

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So.... It has been 4 years!



Fad, or future?
It's the present go-to setup, not the future...

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In response to your question...it’s a little bit of both...fad and future. I see atmos like the cherry on the cake. So it’s most critical to have a cake before getting the cherry for the top. I was running front height and wide for a long time. Others just stuck with standard setup. Then when atmos came around a lot of people jumped into it. Frankly if you have been running front wides and heights, atmos is not such a big improvement, while I do understand those who see it as a big improvement when coming from a standard setup. My opinion on this matter is strictly based on a listening perspective and not getting into the whole discussion on true intended sound direction as per the film designer. Some are already seeing Auro 3D as the potential future...due to the vast expansion of speakers that can be allowed in an install.

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Def not a fad i hope, it had added a well needed dimension to my room Acoustically

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Certainly not a fad but will never catch on like some of the other recent technological developments in AV that are more turn-key.

E.g.
HDR - most people (referring to the populace at large, rather than this forum or enthusiasts only) probably don't care because they don't understand it but all you have to do is buy a compatible display, player, and HDR bluray and you're done.
4k - Same as above, easier to understand and easy to implement.
3D - As above, buy compatible display and media and that's it.
Auto-room-correction - 20 years ago there was no such thing in the consumer market, now every AVR has it and many non-enthusiasts are actually using it. Pretty turn-key, get the mic out and follow the instructions, one off job then its done.

Compare these to Atmos; buy extra speakers, decide where/how to mount them, cut/drill holes in ceiling for speakers, wire them up. Atmos is a fair bit more hassle to implement than the other technologies I mentioned, so despite being no more of a fad than the others it will likely see much less adoption, especially for non-enthusiasts.

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Compare these to Atmos; buy extra speakers, decide where/how to mount them, cut/drill holes in ceiling for speakers, wire them up.
Or use upfiring modules or Atmos height virtualization. No deciding where to mount them, no cutting/drilling holes in the ceiling. Easier than finding a 3D compatible display these days.

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Or use upfiring modules or Atmos height virtualization. No deciding where to mount them, no cutting/drilling holes in the ceiling. Easier than finding a 3D compatible display these days.

And how close to the true experience can those solutions get?



I admit that 3D was a fad, it has come and passed a few times and despite the ease of implementation last time around, it still failed because the execution was poor. As soon as moving holograms are invented 3D will be here for good.

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And how close to the true experience can those solutions get?
Pretty close, depending on situation. I don't make perfect the enemy of good, so for me some height effect is better than no height effect. Not a binary choice between "true experience" (overhead speakers) or nothing.
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I admit that 3D was a fad, it has come and passed a few times and despite the ease of implementation last time around, it still failed because the execution was poor. As soon as moving holograms are invented 3D will be here for good.
Wasn't questioning the 3D formats, just pointing out that buying a 3D TV these days is more difficult than implementing Atmos.

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