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Anti-mode Dual Core 2.0 and Audyssey XT32

Hi all,

I am wondering what the recommendations are for using the Anti-mode Dual Core 2.0 combined with Audyssey MultEQ XT32. I have a Marantz AV8802A in a 5.1 setup and using the Dual Core for the sub (PSA V3600i).

Should I:
(1) use Dual Core first then Audyssey?
(2) Audyssey first then Dual Core?
(3) Just use the Dual Core?

I remember reading something on this topic previously however I cannot for the life of me find the posts.

Any input appreciated.
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Audyssey needs to see hear what delay times the electronic processing of the sub has applied before it can advise you on setting overall delays for all speakers when seen as a complete system.... I thought Audyssey explained this once at their "zendesk" FAQ pages but at the moment I can't find the reference. This is however how I remember it as being.
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There are two schools of thought on the "EQ Before/After" Audyssey question:

1) EQ before Audyssey to provide Audyssey with the flattest possible response so it has less work to do
2) EQ after Audyssey to not only flatten the response, but to be able to tailor the response to your personal preference

I do not own a AM, but I don't think it allows you to create custom curves, or to modify the curve at all after running it ("tailoring" the response). If that is the case, I would recommend running the AM before Audyssey.

That being said, personally I would try it both ways and go with whichever sounds best to your ears.
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Audyssey needs to see hear what delay times the electronic processing of the sub has applied before it can advise you on setting overall delays for all speakers when seen as a complete system.... I thought Audyssey explained this once at their "zendesk" FAQ pages but at the moment I can't find the reference. This is however how I remember it as being.
Found it! Regarding Velodyne subwoofer room correction processing:
"We recommend that you first run the Velodyne process and then run MultEQ in the Marantz. "
"All non-Audyssey processing should be done prior to running Audyssey."

- Chris Kyriakakis, cofounder and I believe chief architect of all Audyssey processing, including all varieties of room correction such as MultEQ XT32.

Source: https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries...ass-correction

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Cool Thanks for that info m. zilch.
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Found it! Regarding Velodyne subwoofer room correction processing:
"We recommend that you first run the Velodyne process and then run MultEQ in the Marantz. "
"All non-Audyssey processing should be done prior to running Audyssey."

- Chris Kyriakakis, cofounder and I believe chief architect of all Audyssey processing, including all varieties of room correction such as MultEQ XT32.

Source: https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries...ass-correction
Well, some of us respectfully disagree with Mr. Kyriakakis.
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Should I:
(1) use Dual Core first then Audyssey?
(2) Audyssey first then Dual Core?
(3) Just use the Dual Core?
Get a USB measurement mic from MiniDSP. Use REW. Try (a) and try (b) and see which gives you the best measurements

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Audassy xt32 by it self does a pretty good job.
I got a pretty good results by bypassing my Paradimg,s pbk kit.


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Hi all,

I am wondering what the recommendations are for using the Anti-mode Dual Core 2.0 combined with Audyssey MultEQ XT32. I have a Marantz AV8802A in a 5.1 setup and using the Dual Core for the sub (PSA V3600i).

Should I:
(1) use Dual Core first then Audyssey?
(2) Audyssey first then Dual Core?
(3) Just use the Dual Core?

I remember reading something on this topic previously however I cannot for the life of me find the posts.

Any input appreciated.
I owned AM 2.0 a couple of years ago with a Yam receiver. It worked very well. I let Anti mode do all the EQ for the sub and YPAO do the rest. You can changed the target curve in AM easily. Also, John M has added very recently EQ filters for Antimode in his marvelous REW software. With a Umik-1 mic and Rew you should do marvels with it. I would have kept mine if I knew that was coming !

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