Originally Posted by sigpig
To help you out, we need some basic questions answered:
1. What is your budget?
2. What TV do you have?
3. What are the dimensions of your room (LxWxH), and any other open areas (ie: open-plan living/dining room/kitchen)?
4. What are your listening habits?
5. How far from your TV do you sit?
6. You already mentioned WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) - as in, you are somewhat opposed to "ugly" speakers. There are many speakers that are not simple "black boxes".
7. What are your placement options?
1. Honestly.... right now, non-existent. I can maybe squeeze a couple hundred ($200-$300) within the next month or two to get started. Unfortunately the timing sucks as we have the holidays and then a baby coming the beginning of the year [which will bring it's own expenses with higher priority than daddy's toys/hobbies ].
2. Current TV is a 46" Panasonic Tru2Way Plasma. It's probably about 6-7 years old now.
3.Primary room is 13'x16'x8'. At the end of the 13' there is simple a half wall/bar into the kitchen/breakfast nook that adds another 16'.
4. Movies, Television, and the occasional video game. There are a lot of kids programming currently, as well as some adult prime-time television in the evening. I know my Wife would definately appreciate an easier way to listen to music on the system than what the HTIB allowed for. Video is usually sourced via internet sources (netflix/etc).
5. the couch is about 12ft from the television, however we also will often watch the tv while cooking in the kitchen or sometimes even at the kitchen table in the back half of the open floorplan. (the 20ft range?)
6. While I am aware there are options outside of the "ugly black box" variety, I also know with my limited budget it limits those options. One reason I'm debating the DIY options is the added fit and finish options within the budget.
7. With the HTIB 7.1 speakers, I had the center speaker on the TV stand in front of the plasma. Next to the TV stand I had the 2 front floor speakers. The surrounds were placed on the corner of a desk, a bookcase, an end table, and tucked on the floor. [compromises made due to the WAF... and the space i had to work with as well as the HTIB speaker wire length]. I'll admit that the 2.1 start of the system sounds good to me not only for budget reasons, but also because it would be much easier to place the speakers as my ability to run wire is limited.
Originally Posted by sigpig
Lastly, a good subwoofer is pretty much required for movies these days. This is NOT something you should skimp on (I am speaking from experience). You MAY get away with using your existing sub from your HTiB, as long as it is a powered sub, and you have an LFE input on it (looks like an RCA input). Decent subs start around the $250 point. Good subs start at around $500. The bigger the volume of your room, the bigger (and more expensive) your subwoofer(s) need to be, since your subwoofer sees the entire volume of space around it.
I'm unfortunately not going to be able to reuse any of the HTIB speakers, including the sub. Based off the room size, how big a sub (or type) should I be looking at getting? Ideally I would like/need something that would sound good (not necessarily rattle, but provide good quality) both during daytime use, and late night while the kids/family sleep upstairs.
Originally Posted by golfster
At the very least, you are going to have to buy a new receiver. If those really are 3 ohm speakers, they will probably need replaced too. Also keep in mind that if you use the same speakers, your system will sound pretty much the same. You did not mention budget and that would be helpful. I am a fan of Yamaha receivers as some of the best values and best reliability. As was mentioned, a previous model is a great deal. You mentioned switching. Many receivers must be on to enable input switching. Starting with the RX-V6xx series, Yamaha's will change inputs while off if you just want to use the TV speakers. Here is a good value on last year's model
While we are currently using the TV speakers, we have grown accustomed to the much better quality and volume provided by the HTIB speakers. Unfortunately as I mentioned, I'm going to have to replace them all as everything I've read/seen says 3ohm speakers with a "real" receiver is a bad idea. the idea of pretty much having the receiver on at all times for switching and audio is almost a given based off our traditional usage patterns.